432  
WTPZ42 KNHC 242040  
TCDEP2  
 
HURRICANE VANCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 14  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP222026  
300 PM CST SAT OCT 24 2026  
 
VANCE HAS BECOME SIGNIFICANTLY LESS ORGANIZED SINCE THE LAST  
ADVISORY DUE TO A COMBINATION OF COLD WATER NEAR THE CENTER AND  
INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR. MICROWAVE DATA INDICATES THAT THE  
EYEWALL HAS BROKEN OPEN, WITH THE REMAINING CONVECTION LIMITED TO  
NORTH OF THE CENTER. IN ADDITION, VISIBLE IMAGERY SHOWS THE  
LOW-LEVEL CENTER TO BE NEAR OR A LITTLE SOUTH OF THE SOUTHERN EDGE  
OF THE CONVECTIVE MASS. THE VARIOUS SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES  
HAVE DROPPED, AND BASED ON THEM THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS LOWERED TO  
80 KT. THIS COULD BE QUITE GENEROUS, AS THE CURRENT STRUCTURE DOES  
NOT LOOK MUCH LIKE A HURRICANE.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS STILL PROBLEMATIC, BUT PERHAPS A LITTLE  
LESS SO THAN EARLIER. VANCE IS LIKELY TO WEAKEN DURING THE NEXT  
12-18 H AS IT CROSSES A POOL OF COLDER WATER WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR  
27C THAT HAS BEEN UPWELLED BY SEVERAL PREVIOUS TROPICAL CYCLONES,  
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME IT EXPERIENCES AT LEAST MODERATE  
SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR. BEYOND THAT TIME, THE CENTER IS EXPECTED TO  
MOVE OVER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR 29C CLOSER TO THE COAST OF  
MEXICO. THIS COULD ALLOW INTENSIFICATION IF THE SHEAR IS LIGHT  
ENOUGH AND THE STORM STRUCTURE IS STILL GOOD ENOUGH TO ALLOW IT. THE  
GFS AND ECMWF CONTINUE SHOW A PERIOD OF REDUCED, BUT STILL MARGINAL,  
SHEAR THAT COULD ALLOW SOME INTENSIFICATION, AND BASED ON THIS AND  
TRENDS IN THE GUIDANCE SLIGHT RE-INTENSIFICATION IS SHOWN AT 48 H.  
BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD, INCREASING SHEAR IS LIKELY TO  
CAUSE VANCE TO STEADILY WEAKEN. IT IS STILL POSSIBLE THAT VANCE  
COULD WEAKEN MORE THAN FORECAST BEFORE REACHING WARMER WATER AND  
THAT THE SHEAR MAY BE TOO STRONG TO ALLOW RE-INTENSIFICATION AFTER  
36 H. THE NEW INTENSITY FORECAST HAS MAJOR DOWNWARD ADJUSTMENTS FROM  
THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION REMAINS NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD OR 340/5 KT. VANCE  
IS BEING STEERED BY A WEAK LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER EASTERN  
MEXICO, AND IT IS APPROACHING A LARGE MID-LATITUDE TROUGH OVER THE  
WESTERN UNITED STATES AND NORTHWESTERN MEXICO. WHILE NEITHER OF  
THESE FEATURES WILL CHANGE MUCH DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS, VANCE IS  
LIKELY TO MOVE INTO AN AREA OF LIGHTER STEERING CURRENTS NEAR THE  
BASE OF THE TROUGH AND SLOW ITS FORWARD MOTION DURING THE NEXT  
24 OR SO. THE TRACK FORECAST BEYOND THAT TIME IS DEPENDENT ON THE  
CYCLONE'S STRENGTH AND VERTICAL STRUCTURE. A WEAKER SYSTEM THAT  
SHEARS APART LIKE SHOWN IN THE UKMET AND CANADIAN IS LIKELY TO MOVE  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD BEFORE RESUMING A MORE NORTHERLY  
MOTION, WHILE A STRONGER AND VERTICALLY DEEPER SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO  
CONTINUE SLOWLY NORTHWARD OR NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD. THE TRACK  
GUIDANCE ENVELOPE HAS SHIFTED WESTWARD SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY,  
AND THE NEW FORECAST TRACK HAS BEEN NUDGED WESTWARD AS WELL.  
ADDITIONAL WESTWARD ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TRACK MAY BE NECESSARY IF  
VANCE CONTINUES TO LOSE ORGANIZATION.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTIES IN BOTH THE TRACK AND INTENSITY  
FORECASTS, IT IS TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT WIND AND STORM SURGE  
IMPACTS VANCE MAY CAUSE ALONG THE COAST OF MEXICO. INTERESTS IN  
SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE  
HURRICANE.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH SLOW-MOVING HURRICANE VANCE WILL  
IMPACT THE WESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM MICHOACáN TO JALISCO DURING  
MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. THIS RAINFALL MAY PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING  
FLOODING AND MUDSLIDES ACROSS COLIMA AND WESTERN PORTIONS OF  
MICHOACáN AND JALISCO, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS ALONG STEEP TERRAIN.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 24/2100Z 13.3N 103.3W 80 KT 90 MPH  
12H 25/0600Z 14.0N 103.6W 75 KT 85 MPH  
24H 25/1800Z 14.9N 104.0W 70 KT 80 MPH  
36H 26/0600Z 15.6N 104.4W 70 KT 80 MPH  
48H 26/1800Z 16.0N 104.6W 75 KT 85 MPH  
60H 27/0600Z 16.4N 104.8W 70 KT 80 MPH  
72H 27/1800Z 17.0N 104.9W 65 KT 75 MPH  
96H 28/1800Z 18.1N 105.2W 50 KT 60 MPH  
120H 29/1800Z 19.3N 105.6W 40 KT 45 MPH  
 

 
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