153  
FXUS66 KPDT 201807  
AFDPDT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PENDLETON OR  
1007 AM PST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
UPDATED FOR AVIATION  
 
18Z TAFS...VFR CONDITIONS TO START AT ALL SITES, BEFORE  
DETERIORATING CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT AND TOWARD MORNING WILL BRING  
WIDESPREAD MVFR AND POSSIBLY IFR. GUSTY WINDS ARE EXPECTED MAINLY  
AT PDT AND ALW WITH WINDS IN THE 30 TO 35 KT RANGE BEFORE  
DECREASING THIS EVENING TO 10 KTS OR LESS. ELSEWHERE, WINDS WILL  
MAINLY BE 10 KTS OR LESS THROUGH THE PERIOD.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
/ISSUED 335 AM PST WED NOV 20 2024/  
 
SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY...  
 
BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT  
 
1. PROGRESSIVELY WET PATTERN CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY  
 
2. WINDS WILL RETURN THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE PASSAGE OF A FRONT  
 
MODELS REMAIN IN FIRM AGREEMENT WITH THE DEEP LOW CONTINUING TO  
REMAIN PARKED OFF SHORE WITH THE UPPER LEVEL SOUTHWEST FLOW  
CONTINUING TO BRING IN PRECIPITATION. THE PASSAGE OF THE WARM FRONT  
AND THE CONTINUED SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW BRINGING WARM AIR ADVECTION,  
SNOW LEVELS WILL CONTINUE TO RISE THROUGH THE NIGHT. HOWEVER, MODELS  
DO SHOW THE SNOW LEVELS TO TAKE THEIR TIME RISING ALONG THE WA  
CASCADES AND BLUE MOUNTAINS. THIS WILL ALLOW THE CONTINUED  
PRECIPITATION OVERNIGHT TO REMAIN AS SNOW ABOVE 3000 FT. WITH THE  
RISING SNOW LEVELS PROGRESSIVELY MOVING NORTHWARDS, MUCH OF THE  
PRECIPITATION WILL FALL AS RAIN BELOW 3500 FT KEEPING THE SNOW  
CAPPED ALONG THE CRESTS OF THE CASCADES AND BLUES. SNOW AMOUNTS  
TODAY WILL REMAIN PRIMARILY ABOVE 3500-4000 FT WITH 70-90% SHOWING  
NEAR 6 INCHES OR MORE ALONG THE OR CASCADE CRESTS, 80-90% SHOWS THE  
SNOQUALMIE PASS AREA NEARING 1 INCHES, 80-90% SHOWING WHITE PASS  
NEARING 1.5-2.0 INCHES, 80-90% MEACHAM AND THE I-84 CORRIDOR WILL  
SEE 0.1-0.5 INCHES AND THE PEAKS AND TOLLGATE WILL SEE NEAR 4  
INCHES. SNOW WILL GRADUALLY TAPPER OFF AND REMAIN LOCKED TO THE  
CRESTS THROUGH FRIDAY. AS FOR THE LOWER ELEVATIONS, EXPECT RAIN  
ACROSS THE REGION. TODAYS RAIN TOTALS WILL BE THE LIGHTEST OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD WITH 80-100% OF THE ENSEMBLES SHOWING A MINIMUM OF  
0.50 INCHES OF RAIN ACROSS CENTRAL OR, YAKIMA/KITTITAS VALLEYS AND  
PORTIONS OF THE BASIN AND FOOTHILLS, WHILE THE REMAINDER OF THE  
REGION WILL SEE ANYWHERE FROM 0.10-0.30 INCHES AND HIGHER AMOUNTS  
ALONG THE CRESTS. AMOUNTS WILL INCREASE TOMORROW WITH 20-30%  
PROBABILITIES OF THE BASIN SEEING 0.20 INCHES, 50-80% PROBABILITIES  
OF 0.30 INCHES THROUGH CENTRAL AND NORTH CENTRAL OR, 30-50%  
PROBABILITIES OF 0.30-0.50 INCHES THROUGH THE GORGE FOOTHILLS OF  
THE BLUES, SIMCOE HIGHLANDS AND THE OCHOCO-JOHN DAY HIGHLANDS. RAIN  
WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY WITH A BIT OF REPRIEVE FOR CENTRAL OR  
WHILE ELSEWHERE WILL SEE 0.20-0.30 ADDITIONAL INCHES OF RAIN. ITS  
GOING TO BE A WET ONE.  
 
WINDS WILL SETTLE TODAY YET REMAINING WITH A EAST AND SOUTHEAST  
COMPONENT. WINDS WILL HOWEVER REMAIN SLIGHTLY ELEVATION THROUGH THE  
GRANDE RONDE VALLEY AND ALONG THE FOOTHILLS OF THE BLUES WITH RAW  
ENSEMBLES SHOWING 30-60% PROBABILITIES OF 30 MPH SUSTAINED WINDS  
ALONG THE FOOTHILLS OF THE SOUTHERN BLUES, 80-100% FOR THE FOOTHILLS  
OF THE NORTHERN BLUES AND THROUGH GRANDE RONDE VALLEY. WINDS WILL  
RETURN TO NEAR NORMAL THURSDAY BEFORE UPTICKING AGAIN THURSDAY  
NIGHT. MODELS SHOW A COLD FRONT GEARING UP TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION  
BEGINNING THURSDAY NIGHT. MUCH OF THE BREEZY WINDS WILL REMAIN ALONG  
THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE REGION AND ACROSS THE FOOTHILLS OF THE  
BLUES WITH 50-70% CHANCES OF SUSTAINED WINDS GREATER THAN 20 MPH.  
BENNESE/90  
 
LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY...MODELS ARE COMING INTO  
BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE SYNOPTIC PATTERN THROUGH THE WEEKEND, BUT  
THERE ARE SOME NOTABLE DIFFERENCES IN DAYS 6-8. THE LARGE UPPER  
LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND THE GULF OF ALASKA WILL  
PUSH EASTWARD ACROSS THE PACNW FRIDAY AND WILL FLATTEN IN RESPONSE  
TO AN INCREASING WESTERLY FLOW ALONG 40N. THEREFORE, SATURDAY WILL  
PREDOMINANTLY BE MET WITH A WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. SHOWERS WILL BE  
NUMEROUS (70-90% POPS) OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND A CHANCE (20-40% POPS)  
ELSEWHERE. THE COOLER AIR WITH THE WESTERLY FLOW WILL LOWER SNOW  
LEVELS DOWN TO NEAR 3500 FEET BY THE AFTERNOON. AN ATMOSPHERIC  
RIVER WILL BE SOUTH OF OREGON AIDED BY A 150KT JET, ALTHOUGH THE  
ECMWF EFI HAS MOST OF EASTERN OREGON IN ABOVE AVERAGE QPF RELATIVE  
TO REFORECASTS. CURRENT FORECAST WILL SHOW 3-6 INCHES OF NEW SNOW  
SATURDAY IN THE WALLOWA MOUNTAINS AND THE ELKHORNS AS WELL AS THE  
CASCADE CREST.  
 
BASED ON THE DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE MEANS, THE FORECAST AREA  
WILL BE BETWEEN SYSTEMS AND UNDER A SHORTWAVE RIDGE SATURDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT. ANY CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION WILL BE 15-30%  
EXCEPT 40-60% ALONG THE CASCADE CREST. SNOW LEVELS IN SOUTHEAST WA  
WILL BE NEAR 2500 FEET SLOPING UPWARDS TO 3500 FEET IN CENTRAL  
OREGON WITH VERY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS, IF ANY AT ALL. THE  
BENIGN WEATHER MAY CONTINUE INTO MONDAY AS WELL, ALTHOUGH THE  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT AN OFFSHORE TROUGH  
WILL NUDGE INLAND ON MONDAY. THIS WILL INCREASE THE SW FLOW ALOFT.  
DESPITE THE AGREEMENT IN THE H5 PATTERN, ABOUT 50% OF THE ENSEMBLES  
KEEP THE BRUNT OF PRECIPITATION WEST OF THE CASCADES. FOR NOW, I  
WOULD STATE THAT THERE IS A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION ON MONDAY (SNOW  
LEVELS 2500-3500 FEET) BUT IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK.  
 
THE TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY FORECAST IS A MORE MESSY WITH AN UNCERTAIN  
FORECAST. THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT THE OFFSHORE TROUGH WILL DO. ITS  
POSITION VARIES SIGNIFICANTLY AMONGST THE DETERMINISTIC AND  
ENSEMBLES. THE NBM FAVORS LOW CHANCE POPS (20-40%) ALONG WITH  
SEASONAL TO BELOW SEASONAL TEMPERATURES. WISTER/85  
 
AVIATION...12Z TAFS...STRONG WINDS AND LLWS CONTINUE TO BE THE MAIN  
AVIATION CONCERNS FOR TODAY. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE AS THE  
DAY PROGRESSES, BUT THERE WILL REMAIN SSE WINDS SUSTAINED AT 25-35KT  
GUSTING TO 40-50KT AT PDT AND ALW THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS.  
ALTHOUGH SURFACE WINDS ARE CONSIDERABLY LESS AT THE OTHER TERMINALS,  
THERE IS LLWS THAT INCREASES +20-25 KTS AROUND 2000 FT AGL. DLS AND  
YKM ARE THE ONLY TWO LOCATIONS THAT WILL NOT HAVE THESE WIND  
CONCERNS. CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY VFR AS PRECIPITATION IS MAINLY  
WEST OF THE CASCADES AND FROM THE BLUE MTNS EASTWARD. HOWEVER,  
PRECIPITATION WILL INCREASE FROM THE SSW TONIGHT AND WIDESPREAD RAIN  
AND MOUNTAIN SNOW WILL LOWER CONDITIONS TO MVFR OR LESS. WINDS  
TONIGHT WILL BE 5-15KTS. WISTER/85  
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
PDT 37 49 38 55 / 60 40 90 90  
ALW 39 51 41 57 / 60 60 90 100  
PSC 39 48 42 51 / 60 30 80 90  
YKM 29 43 33 48 / 50 50 90 90  
HRI 39 48 40 52 / 60 30 90 90  
ELN 31 43 33 47 / 50 60 90 90  
RDM 34 50 42 54 / 50 60 80 70  
LGD 36 45 41 50 / 70 80 90 100  
GCD 36 48 41 52 / 90 90 90 100  
DLS 40 48 42 52 / 70 60 90 90  
 
 
   
PDT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
OR...NONE.  
WA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...86  
LONG TERM....85  
AVIATION...77  
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