877  
FXUS65 KPIH 200814  
AFDPIH  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE POCATELLO ID  
114 AM MST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
SHORT TERM
 
TODAY THROUGH THURSDAY.  
 
ATMOSPHERIC RIVER EVENT BEGINS THIS MORNING ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
MOUNTAINS. HEAVIEST SNOWFALLS ARE ABOVE 7500-8000 FEET WHERE 1 TO 2  
FEET OF SNOW WILL LIKELY FALL BETWEEN 12Z THIS MORNING AND 12Z  
FRIDAY. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS DROP OFF QUICKLY IN THE WOOD RIVER VALLEY  
AND STANLEY BASIN BECAUSE OF WARM AIR. HERE SNOW AMOUNTS RANGE FROM  
2 TO 8 INCHES. THESE VALLEYS WILL STILL SEE A HEALTHY AMOUNT OF  
RAINFALL WITH AN INCH POSSIBLE THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY. OUTSIDE OF THE  
CENTRAL MOUNTAINS, NOT MUCH IS HAPPENING. AN ISOLATED SHOWER IS  
POSSIBLE TODAY, BUT NOT MUCH IN TERMS OF ACCUMULATIONS. BETTER  
CHANCES OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL MOUNTAINS ON THURSDAY AS A STRONGER  
PUSH OF MOISTURE HEADS TOWARDS THE REGION. HOWEVER STILL LOOKING AT  
LIGHT QPF AMOUNTS. TEMPERATURES WILL BE WARMING TOO WITH 40 DEGREE  
TEMPERATURES PUSHING INTO THE LOWER SNAKE PLAIN TODAY WITH MOST OF  
THE SNAKE PLAIN IN THE 40S ON THURSDAY. HEADLINES STILL LOOK  
APPROPRIATE, MAIN IMPACTS EXPECTED TO BE NEAR GALENA SUMMIT.  
 
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LONG TERM
 
FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
BIG PICTURE REMAINS UNCHANGED, HOWEVER LOTS OF DEVILS IN THE  
DETAILS. FIRST QUESTION, SOME MODELS ARE SHOWING THE PLUME OF  
MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ATMOSPHERIC RIVER NOT LETTING UP ON  
FRIDAY ACROSS THE CENTRAL MOUNTAINS BUT CONTINUING INTO THE WEEKEND.  
THE GFS AND ECMWF DETERMINISTIC IN PARTICULAR KEEP THE TRAIN  
ROLLING, WHILE THE NAM DOES LIFT IT NORTH SOME. IN ADDITION, WARMER  
AIR WILL BE PUSHING INTO THE REGION SENDING SNOW LEVELS HIGHER.  
POTENTIALLY EVEN ABOVE GALENA SUMMIT. SO, WILL LEAVE THE WARNING  
CONTINUING THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY STILL BUT LATER SHIFTS MAY NEED TO  
EXTEND IT.  
 
STILL LOOKING AT THE COLD FRONT MARCHING THROUGH EAST IDAHO ON  
SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION TO THE REGION.  
SNOW LEVELS GENERALLY LOOK TO BE ABOVE 6000 FEET AND DO NOT FALL TO  
VALLEY FLOORS UNTIL LATE SATURDAY NIGHT. SNOW AMOUNTS FOR SATURDAY  
THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT LARGELY LOOK SUB-ADVISORY EXCEPT ALONG A FEW  
MOUNTAIN PASSES SUCH AS GALENA, THE ISLAND PARK AREA, AND EMIGRATION  
SUMMIT.  
 
THE NEXT QUESTION COMES INTO PLAY SUNDAY INTO MONDAY WHEN SOME  
MODELS SHOW A WEAK LOW MOVING THROUGH NORTHERN UTAH AND SOUTHERN  
IDAHO. RIGHT NOW, MODELS SHOW 1 TO 3 INCHES IN THE VALLEYS WITH UP  
TO 8 INCHES ON THE RIDGE TOPS. BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF PATTERN THAT  
OFTEN OVERACHIEVES ACROSS SOUTHEAST IDAHO AND IS SOMETHING TO KEEP  
AN EYE ON.  
 
FINALLY, THE MAIN LOW WILL MOST LIKELY WORK THROUGH THE REGION  
TUESDAY. CURRENTLY THE FORECAST HAS HIGH PRECIPITATION CHANCES BUT  
LOW QPF, MOST LIKELY BECAUSE OF HIGH SPREAD ACROSS MODEL MEMBERS AS  
TO HOW MUCH MOISTURE THERE IS TO WORK WITH. BUT POTENTIALLY, THIS  
COULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SNOWFALL IN THE VALLEYS. LOOKS LIKE  
WE MAY BEGIN TO DRY OUT AFTER WEDNESDAY, BUT WE GET NOTICEABLY  
COLDER AS WELL. BUNDLE UP FOR THANKSGIVING WITH MOST AREAS HAVING A  
GOOD CHANCE OF NOT EVEN REACHING 32 DEGREES FOR A HIGH.  
 
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AVIATION...20/12Z TO 21/12Z
 
AN APPROACHING FRONT HAS DEVELOPED OR  
WILL SHORTLY DEVELOP CIGS FOR THE THREE VALLEY AIRPORTS AT  
600MB/10000AGL, KBYI, KPIH, AND KIDA. SOME LOW CLOUDS DEVELOP, AT  
VARIOUS COVERAGES, BELOW 700MB/6000AGL, BUT ONLY KIDA HAS A RISK OF  
SOME VERY TEMPORARY MARGINAL VFR FOR CIG DURING THE DAY TODAY. THOSE  
LOW CLOUDS ARE AT KBYI AT 20/15Z, THEN AT KPIH AT 20/18Z, THEN KIDA  
AT 20/21Z. KDIJ IS PROGGED TO GET THOSE LOWER CLOUDS AT 21/00Z, AND  
IT IS POSSIBLY A CIG. THESE FOUR AIRDROMES HAVE VERY LITTLE CHANCE  
OF PRECIPITATION DURING THE DAY AND EVENING, WITH ONLY KBYI  
QUALIFYING FOR A VCSH WITH SOME 20 PERCENT-PLUS POPS FOR DURING THE  
DAY. IN ALL CASES, THE CIG RETURNS TO MID-LEVELS.  
 
KSUN IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF FLYING, ALTOGETHER. A WALL OF MOISTURE  
ARRIVES AT 19/15Z. THE TEMPERATURES ARE COLD ENOUGH FOR SN, BUT THE  
GUIDANCE WANTS TO KEEP CIGS VFR AND VSBY UNLIMITED WITH NEAR ZERO  
CHANCE OF EVEN MARGINAL VFR FOR THE VSBY. THIS IS DESPITE HIGH  
PROBABILITIES OF PRECIPITATION, ABOVE 50 PERCENT FOR THE FIRST TWO  
SIX HOUR PERIODS IN THIS TAF. AND IT IS ONLY MARGINALLY HIGHER  
THREAT, APPROACHING 10 PERCENT, FOR THE PERIOD BEYOND 21/04Z. THIS  
DOESN'T SEEM TO GO TOGETHER TOO WELL. HOWEVER, THE HRRR INDICATES  
ONLY WEAK PRECIPITATION THIS FAR SOUTH IN THE CENTRAL IDAHO  
MOUNTAINS, SO WILL STICK WITH THE VFR CONDITIONS. THERE IS SOME RASN  
CHANCES AS TEMPERATURES WARM DURING THE AFTERNOON AT KSUN, BECOMING  
NEARLY ALL RA BY 20/20Z TO 21/03Z. THIS WOULD HELP VSBY STAY UP, AND  
WOULD AID SLIGHTLY FOR CIG.  
 
WIND-WISE, THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO BRING WIND ON THE ORDER OF  
15G25KT TO KBYI AND KPIH, FROM THE SOUTH. MESSICK  
 

 
   
PIH WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 5 AM EARLY THIS MORNING TO 5 AM MST  
FRIDAY FOR IDZ072>074.  
 

 
 

 
 
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