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FXUS66 KSGX 170441  
AFDSGX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA  
941 PM PDT TUE SEP 16 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
REMNANTS OF TROPICAL STORM MARIO WILL BRING INCREASING MOISTURE AND  
CLOUDS TO THE AREA FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. THERE ARE CHANCES OF  
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS FOR THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS FROM THIS  
AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. FOR WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY  
MORNING THERE ARE CHANCES FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WEST OF THE  
MOUNTAINS. THE MARINE LAYER WILL BECOME SHALLOWER WITH THE POTENTIAL  
FOR MINIMAL OR NO LOW CLOUD COVERAGE FOR THE MIDDLE TO END OF THE  
WEEK.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE
 
 
SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO  
COUNTIES...  
 
UPDATE: THE LATEST UPDATE BY THE JOINT TYPHOON WARNING CENTER (JTWC)  
ON NOW POST-TROPICAL MARIO SHOWS IT CONTINUING TO DRIFT TOWARDS THE  
NORTHWEST. THE REMNANTS OF THIS SYSTEM, WITH THE FIRST INITIAL BANDS  
WILL BEGIN TO IMPACT THE CWA BEGINNING BY AROUND 10 AM TOMORROW  
MORNING. THE WRF SHOWS A FEW STORMS ALREADY BEGINNING TO DEVELOP BY  
AROUND THAT TIME OVER THE MOUNTAINS, OR SHORTLY AFTER, ALTHOUGH THE  
HRRR (WITH A DRIER BIAS) DOES NOT HAVE CONVECTION INITIATING OVER  
THE MOUNTAINS UNTIL CLOSER TO NOON. THE FIRST BANDS WILL ARRIVE  
RIGHT OFF THE COAST AROUND THE SAME TIME, AND THERE IS ONLY SLIGHT  
DEVIATION BETWEEN THE CAMS REFLECTING THIS. IT STILL APPEARS THAT  
THE BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION FOR THE  
LOWER ELEVATIONS THROUGHOUT THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS  
TOMORROW, WITH LIKELY A FEW HEAVIER SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS  
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE BANDS OF RAIN THAT MOVE OVER. DURING THE  
AFTERNOON HOURS, THERE WILL ALSO LIKELY BE SOME MORE THUNDERSTORMS  
DEVELOPING OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS. IT DOES APPEAR WITH  
THE POST-TROPICAL LOW EJECTING OUT OF THE REGION AND UP TO THE  
NORTH ON THURSDAY, THAT THE FLOW WILL ALLOW FOR ANY STORMS THAT DO  
DEVELOP OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS TO DRIFT TOWARDS THE  
NORTHEAST AN NOT BE OF MUCH CONCERN TO THE INLAND AREAS. THAT  
BEING SAID, THERE COULD STILL BE SOME AREAS RECEIVING SHOWERS AND  
POSSIBLY A THUNDERSTORM, AND WITH PWATS OF 200%, IT IS LIKELY THAT  
THESE HEAVIER SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS WILL PUT DOWN A QUICK AMOUNT  
OF RAINFALL IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND THIS MAY LEAD TO FLASH  
FLOODING CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BURN SCARS. A CHANCE OF  
THUNDERSTORMS WILL STILL EXIST DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS ON  
FRIDAY OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS, AND THIS CHANCE WILL  
CONTINUE GOING INTO THE WEEKEND, ALTHOUGH LIKELY WITH MUCH LESS  
COVERAGE BY SUNDAY. THE EXTENDED FORECAST GOING PAST THIS UPCOMING  
WEEKEND STILL LOOKS TO BE ON TRACK, SHOWING A GRADUAL WARMUP  
GOING INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS RIDGING BECOMES MORE OF THE DOMINANT  
FEATURE AGAIN.  
 
(PREVIOUS DISCUSSION SUBMITTED AT 144 PM):  
 
SATELLITE AT 1 PM WAS SHOWING AREAS OF CUMULUS CLOUDS OVER THE  
MOUNTAINS, LOCALLY INTO THE VALLEYS. NO PRECIPITATION HAS BEEN  
DETECTED THUS FAR, ALTHOUGH CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED IN THE  
MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF THE BORDER. THE 12Z KNKX SOUNDING WAS SHOWING  
1.25 INCHES OF PRECIPITABLE WATER WITH 700 J/KG OF MOST UNSTABLE  
CAPE. ONE INHIBITING FACTOR IS A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL INVERSION NEAR  
700 MB. THIS COULD LIMIT CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT, EVEN WITH THE  
OTHERWISE FAVORABLE CONDITIONS. THE SLIGHT CHANCES OF SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE MOUNTAINS HAS BEEN MAINTAINED IN THE  
AFTERNOON FORECAST PACKAGE.  
 
CHANCES FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD FOR  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. IT LOOKS LIKE  
THERE WILL BE ENOUGH MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY TOMORROW AFTERNOON FOR  
THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP OVER THE MOUNTAINS, LOCALLY INTO THE  
DESERTS AHEAD OF THE MAIN MOISTURE SURGE. AS WE MOVE INTO WEDNESDAY  
EVENING AND THURSDAY MORNING, SHOWER CHANCES BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD  
WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS  
TO DEVELOP. SHOWER COVERAGE OVERNIGHT MAY BE FAIRLY SCATTERED. FOR  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON, SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM CHANCES CONTINUE FOR THE  
INLAND VALLEYS, MOUNTAINS, AND DESERTS. DEPENDING ON HOW STRONG THE  
EASTERLY FLOW IS, IT'S POSSIBLE THUNDERSTORMS COULD DRIFT CLOSER TO  
THE COAST. FLASH FLOODING IS POSSIBLE WHERE THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOP,  
ESPECIALLY IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS. OTHERWISE, MAIN IMPACTS  
WILL BE FREQUENT LIGHTNING AND THE POTENTIAL FOR URBAN FLOODING  
WHERE SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOP WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS. BASED ON  
THE LATEST HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE RAINFALL RATES WEST OF THE  
MOUNTAINS WILL GENERALLY BE 0.25"/HR OR LESS, BUT COULD BE LOCALLY  
HIGHER WHERE THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOP; IN THE MOUNTAINS RAINFALL RATES  
LOOK TO BE AROUND 1"/HR; AND 0.50"/HR IN THE DESERTS.  
 
HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE IS INDICATING SOME LINGERING ISOLATED  
HEAVIER SHOWERS OR THUNDERSTORMS OVERNIGHT THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY  
MORNING. FOR FRIDAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST CHANCES OF SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE OVER THE MOUNTAINS POTENTIALLY INTO THE  
DESERTS. CHANCES FOR AFTERNOON SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL  
CONTINUE FOR THE MOUNTAINS, DESERTS, AND POTENTIALLY INLAND VALLEYS  
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
THE INCREASE IN MOISTURE AND CLOUDS, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY WILL  
RESULT IN HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR INLAND AREAS TO COOL SEVERAL  
DEGREES. HIGH TEMPERATURES ON THURSDAY WILL BE AS MUCH AS 8 TO 12  
DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE FOR THE MOUNTAINS. HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR  
INLAND AREAS WILL WARM AROUND 10 DEGREES FROM THURSDAY THROUGH  
SUNDAY WITH SUNDAY HIGH TEMPERATURES MOSTLY A FEW TO AROUND 5  
DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE. HIGH TEMPERATURES ON SUNDAY WILL RANGE FROM  
THE MID 70S NEAR THE COAST TO THE UPPER 80S TO MID 90S FOR THE  
INLAND EMPIRE WITH THE MID 90S TO AROUND 100 FOR THE LOWER DESERTS.  
THERE COULD BE ANOTHER INFLUX OF TROPICAL MOISTURE EARLY NEXT WEEK  
FROM A SECOND TROPICAL SYSTEM THAT IS YET TO FULLY DEVELOP. MORE  
INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE COMING DAYS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
170245Z...COAST...LOW CONFIDENCE IN LOW CLOUD DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING. VERY PATCHY LOW CLOUDS 09-16Z WED WITH  
BASES 300-700 FEET MSL. VIS RESTRICTIONS (1-4 SM) WHEREVER LOW  
CLOUDS DEVELOP.  
 
REGIONWIDE...BKN-OVC HIGH CLOUDS AROUND 10000 FEET MSL THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY. SCT -SHRA AND ISO TSRA BEGIN TO MOVE IN FROM THE SOUTH  
AFTER 18Z WED WITH CLOUD BASES AOA 10K FT MSL. ISO TSRA CONTINUE  
INTO THURSDAY WITH INCREASING STORM CHANCES FOR THE MOUNTAINS AND  
DESERTS.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS WEDNESDAY  
THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH THE GREATEST CHANCE WEDNESDAY EVENING AND  
OVERNIGHT. ANY STORMS COULD BRIEFLY PRODUCE LIGHTNING, GUSTY WINDS  
AND CHOPPY SEAS. QUIETER CONDITIONS EXPECTED OVER THE WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
BEACHES
 
THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS WEDNESDAY  
THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH THE GREATEST CHANCE WEDNESDAY EVENING AND  
OVERNIGHT. STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING  
AND GUSTY WINDS.  
 
KW  
 

 
   
SKYWARN
 
 
SKYWARN ACTIVATION IS NOT REQUESTED. HOWEVER WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE  
ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER CONDITIONS.  
 

 
   
SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
CA...NONE.  
PZ...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
UPDATE...STEWEY  
PUBLIC...CO  
AVIATION/MARINE/BEACHES...KW  
 
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