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FXUS65 KTWC 170929  
AFDTWC  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TUCSON AZ  
229 AM MST MON NOV 17 2025  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM MOVING INTO SOUTHEAST ARIZONA THE  
MIDDLE OF THE THIS WEEK WILL BRING COOLER TEMPERATURES, CHANCES  
FOR PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SNOWFALL ABOVE 7000 FEET IN THE SKY  
ISLANDS, AND BREEZY CONDITIONS ON TUESDAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL  
RUN 2 TO 6 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL THROUGH TUESDAY, THEN FALL 10 TO  
13 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL BY THE MIDDLE OF THE WORK WEEK. THE FIRST  
WIDESPREAD FREEZE IS EXPECTED FRIDAY FOR THE VALLEYS TO THE SOUTH  
AND EAST OF TUCSON.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
THE UPPER PATTERN THIS MORNING IS DEFINED BY AN  
UPPER-LOW CURRENTLY EJECTING NE THROUGH UTAH, WITH AN AMPLIFIED  
TROUGH DIGGING SOUTH ALONG THE COAST OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE  
LATEST GOES WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATED THAT THIS TROUGH HAS A  
STRONG LOW CENTER NEAR 39N/127W, WITH A NOTICEABLE STRONG  
NLY FLOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS TROUGH RESULTING IN A SPLIT FLOW  
AND ANOTHER MINOR LOW CENTER NEAR 30N/134W. THIS SECOND FEATURE  
WILL ASSIST THE TROUGH ALONG THE COAST TO DIG SOUTH THE NEXT 24  
TO 36 HOURS AS IT CARVES OUT MORE TERRITORY IN THE MEAN THROUGH.  
THE UPPER-LOW WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE ITS WAY INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA  
AND STALL-OUT BETWEEN 00Z-12Z WED. AS THE SECOND VORT LOBE  
ROTATES AROUND THE BASE OF THE MEAN TROUGH WEDNESDAY, IT WILL HELP  
ELONGATE THE MAIN UPPER-LOW CENTER FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO  
THE BAJA SPUR BY 00Z THU. THIS FEATURE THEN BEGINS TO EJECT E  
THEN NE WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACROSS SOUTHEAST ARIZONA AS ANOTHER KICKER  
TROUGH MOVES DOWN THE WEST COAST.  
 
WITH THE UPPER-LOW INITIALLY STALLING OUT ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA  
TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT, IT WILL FOCUS A SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE  
PLUME (WITH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES 1.00+ INCHES) FROM THE BAJA  
SPUR INTO SOUTHWEST AND CENTRAL ARIZONA. THIS WILL RESULT IN A  
WEAK AR EVENT MAKING ITS WAY INTO CENTRAL ARIZONA WITH 40 PERCENT  
OF THE THE GEFS AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS BRINGING UP AN IVT  
BETWEEN 250 AND 500 KG/MS BETWEEN 12Z TUE AND 12Z WED. GIVEN THE  
STALLED OUT UPPER LOW OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RESULTING IN  
FAVORABLE LIFT/DYNAMICS ALOFT OVER WESTERN AND CENTRAL ARIZONA,  
THE 17/00Z NBM INDICATES A 50-70 PERCENT PROBABILITY FOR RAINFALL  
AMOUNTS OVER AN INCH IN THAT AREA OVER A 24 HOUR SPAN. ALTHOUGH THE  
FOCUSED SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE PLUME SPARES SOUTHEAST ARIZONA FROM  
THE HEAVIER RAINFALL, WE WILL START TO SEE PRECIPITATION SPREAD  
OUT ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT  
AS THE UPPER LOW EJECTS THROUGH THE AREA.  
 
THE MOISTURE AVAILABLE AND UPPER DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE  
DEPARTING SYSTEM WILL BE BETTER THAN THIS PAST STORM SYSTEM  
YESTERDAY. I WOULD EXPECT THE MAJORITY OF THE PRECIPITATION TO  
FALL WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WITH QPF AMOUNTS IN THE  
VALLEYS BETWEEN 0.33 AND 0.67 INCHES NW OF A LINE FROM TUCSON TO  
SAFFORD, AND AMOUNTS BETWEEN A TENTH TO A QUARTER INCH SE OF THAT  
LINE. THE SKY ISLANDS AND THE WHITE MOUNTAINS WILL SEE BETWEEN A  
HALF AND ONE INCH, WITH THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION EXPECTED NEAR  
THE WHITE MOUNATINS. SNOW LEVELS WILL START OUT TUESDAY AFTERNOON  
BETWEEN 8000-9000 FEET, LOWERING TO 7500-8500 FEET MIDDAY  
WEDNESDAY, THEN DOWN TO 6500-7500 FEET THURSDAY MORNING. STORM-  
TOTAL SNOWFALL AMOUNTS BETWEEN 2-5 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ABOVE  
7000 FEET IN THE SKY ISLANDS WITH 4-7 INCHES POSSIBLE IN THE WHITE  
MOUNTAINS. THESE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WILL RESULT IN MINOR-TO-MODERATE  
IMPACT FOR THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS.  
 
THE MAIN IMPACT WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL BE THE COOLER TEMPERATURES.  
THE 17/00Z DETERMINISTIC GFS AND ECMWF BOTH LOWER THE 850-700MB  
THICKNESS VALUES TO AROUND 1550M BY 00Z FRI, WHICH WOULD  
CORRESPOND TO A HIGH TEMPERATURE AT THE TUCSON INTERNATIONAL  
AIRPORT (KTUS) AROUND 56 DEGREES ON THURSDAY. THAT'S CHILLY. I  
SUSPECT THAT WE WONT BE ABLE TO REALIZE ALL OF THIS COOLING DUE TO  
HOW RAPIDLY THE UPPER LOW IS EJECTING, BUT AFTERNOON TEMPERATURE  
NEAR 60 DEGREES ARE LIKELY NONE-THE-LESS. IT'S THE LOW TEMPERATURES  
FRIDAY MORNING AND ONWARD THAT MAY BE MORE IMPACTFUL. IT LOOKS  
LIKE WE WILL EXPERIENCE THE FIRST WIDESPREAD FREEZE THIS SEASON IN  
THE EASTERN VALLEYS. THE 17/04Z NBM PROBABILITY OF FREEZING  
TEMPERATURES (AT OR BELOW 32 DEGREES); FOR KOLS IS 51% THU, 83%  
FRI, AND 46% SAT, FOR KSAD IS 37% THU, 66% FRI, AND 45% SAT, AND  
FOR KDUG IS 54% THU, 76% FRI, AND 63% SAT.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
VALID THROUGH 18/12Z. SCT-BKN CLOUDS AT 7K-10K FT AGL.  
INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS AFTER 17/17Z. SFC WIND LESS THAN 10 KTS  
AND VARIABLE IN DIRECTION THROUGH 17/19Z, SWLY 10-14 KTS DURING  
THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. AVIATION DISCUSSION NOT UPDATED  
FOR TAF AMENDMENTS.  
 

 
   
FIRE WEATHER
 
ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM WILL IMPACT SOUTHEAST ARIZONA  
LATE TUESDAY ACROSS CENTRAL AND WESTERN PIMA COUNTY, THEN THE  
REST OF SOUTHEAST ARIZONA WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY MORNING. THIS  
FEATURE WILL BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SNOW  
ABOVE 7000 FEET, WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND BREEZY SOUTH  
TO SOUTHWEST WINDS (TUESDAY). RH VALUES WILL BE WELL ABOVE  
CRITICAL LEVELS, WITH MIN RH VALUES 30-40 PERCENT IN THE VALLEYS  
AND 60-70+ PERCENT IN THE MOUNTAINS.  
 

 
   
TWC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
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