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FXUS02 KWBC 021834  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
233 PM EDT SUN OCT 02 2022  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 05 2022 - 12Z SUN OCT 09 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A WAVY PATTERN SHOULD BE IN PLACE BY THE START OF THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD ON WEDNESDAY, WITH A COMPACT UPPER LOW SHIFTING OFF THE  
MID-ATLANTIC COAST AND A SHORTWAVE MOVING INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST.  
BY THURSDAY-FRIDAY, ENERGY DIVING SOUTHWARD ACROSS CANADA  
COMBINING WITH THE LATTER SHORTWAVE WILL ACT TO AMPLIFY UPPER  
TROUGHING ACROSS THE EAST WHILE RIDGING BUILDS OVER THE WEST, WITH  
THIS PATTERN REMAINING GENERALLY STAGNANT INTO NEXT WEEKEND.  
RELATIVELY QUIET WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE CONUS  
BESIDES SOME MONSOONAL MOISTURE AND WEAK ENERGY OVER THE SOUTHWEST  
LEADING TO SHOWERS AND STORMS THERE, POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN OVER  
PORTIONS OF THE PLAINS, AND A POTENT COLD FRONT PUSHING ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. LEADING TO RAIN PARTICULARLY IN THE GREAT  
LAKES REGION ALONG WITH CONSIDERABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES BEHIND  
THE FRONT.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
WITH THE PATTERN BECOMING DOMINATED BY THE GENERAL RIDGE IN THE  
WEST AND TROUGHING IN THE EAST, MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS AGREEABLE  
WITH THE AMPLIFIED SYNOPTIC PATTERN, BUT SMALLER SCALE DETAILS ARE  
MORE UNCERTAIN. THE SURFACE LOW OFFSHORE OF THE MID-ATLANTIC IN  
THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD AND INTO DAY 3/WEDNESDAY HAS BEEN WAFFLING  
IN ITS PLACEMENT, NAMELY HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE COAST AND THUS HOW  
MUCH QPF REMAINS ONSHORE. THE 00Z/06Z MODEL GUIDANCE ON THE WHOLE  
PULLED THE LOW CLOSER TO SHORE AND THE WPC FORECAST TRENDED IN  
THIS DIRECTION. AFTER THAT, SHORTWAVES MOVING THROUGH THE EASTERN  
TROUGH SHOW FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH AROUND FRIDAY BUT MORE  
DIFFERENCES ARISE INTO NEXT WEEKEND AS SHORTWAVES TAKE DIFFERENT  
TRACKS AND EVOLVE THE PATTERN. GFS RUNS INDICATED ONE DEEPER  
TROUGH THROUGH SUNDAY, WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF AND CMC HAD SOME  
SHORTWAVES WITHIN THE TROUGH WITH LESS OVERALL AMPLIFICATION. WITH  
MODEL INCONSISTENCIES FROM RUN TO RUN IT IS DIFFICULT TO FAVOR ONE  
SOLUTION OVER ANOTHER. THE 00Z GFS MAINTAINED MORE RIDGE/TROUGH  
AMPLIFICATION THROUGH SUNDAY THAN BASICALLY ANY ENSEMBLE MEMBER  
THOUGH. THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC  
BLEND EARLY BUT WITH INCREASING PROPORTIONS OF THE EC AND GEFS  
ENSEMBLE MEANS IN THE FRONTS/PRESSURES BLEND AS THE PERIOD  
PROGRESSED TO SMOOTH OUT INDIVIDUAL MODEL DIFFERENCES. THIS ALSO  
WORKED WELL OUT WEST WHERE INDIVIDUAL ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW QUITE  
A BIT OF SPREAD REGARDING ENERGY ROUNDING THE TOP OF THE RIDGE  
INTO THE ROCKIES AND HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THIS MIGHT HAVE ON RIDGE  
BREAKDOWN. THE QPF WAS BASED LARGELY ON THE 13Z NATIONAL BLEND OF  
MODELS, BUT WITH A WIDER FOOTPRINT FOR LIGHT AMOUNTS ADDED ACROSS  
MUCH OF THE COUNTRY AS THIS UNDERFORECAST OF LOW AMOUNTS FROM THE  
NBM IS A KNOWN BIAS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THOUGH A SURFACE LOW HAS WAFFLED A BIT IN ITS PLACEMENT AND  
TRENDED BACK TOWARD THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST OVERALL AT THE START OF  
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WEDNESDAY MORNING, GUSTY WINDS AND  
RAINFALL FOR COASTAL LOCATIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST  
SHOULD END ON WEDNESDAY AS IT TRACKS FARTHER INTO THE ATLANTIC.  
MEANWHILE, MONSOONAL MOISTURE INTO THE SOUTHWEST WILL CONTINUE TO  
DRIVE SOME DIURNAL SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS, WITH LOCALLY HEAVY  
RAINFALL POSSIBLE. RAINFALL INTENSITY MAY WANE AFTER WEDNESDAY,  
BUT SHOWERS COULD LINGER THROUGH THE WEEKEND ACROSS THE FOUR  
CORNERS STATES. TO THE NORTH, A COLD FRONT SHIFTING FROM THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS TO THE UPPER MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES SHOULD RESULT  
IN RAIN AS THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH AROUND THURSDAY, AND LAKE  
ENHANCED SHOWERS IN THE WESTERLY FLOW BEHIND THE FRONT FRIDAY AND  
PERHAPS SATURDAY.  
 
TEMPERATURES OUT WEST WILL BE WARM THROUGH THE WEEK INTO NEXT  
WEEKEND UNDERNEATH A BLOCKY UPPER RIDGE, WITH DAYTIME HIGHS OVER  
THE NORTHWEST 10 TO 15 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. DESPITE THE  
ANOMALIES, THE RESULTING TEMPERATURES PEAKING IN THE 70S AND 80S  
(90S FOR PARTS OF CALIFORNIA) ARE UNLIKELY TO CREATE ANY HEAT  
RELATED HAZARDS. CONVERSELY, CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE SPILLING INTO  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND EXPANDING EASTWARD BEHIND THE COLD  
FRONT WILL RESULT IN MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES SHIFTING FROM  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST AND INTO MUCH OF THE EAST  
THURSDAY-SUNDAY. DAYTIME HIGHS IN SOME LOCATIONS COULD BE 15 TO 20  
DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE WHILE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO  
DROP INTO THE 30S FOR MANY, AND EVEN 20S FOR NORTH DAKOTA AND  
NORTHERN MINNESOTA PARTICULARLY FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
TATE/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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