962  
FXUS02 KWBC 032033  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
432 PM EDT MON OCT 03 2022  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 06 2022 - 12Z MON OCT 10 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A STUBBORN COMPACT UPPER LOW/SHORTWAVE STUCK OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC  
REGION DURING THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD WILL FINALLY BE DEPARTING OFF  
THE NORTHEAST COAST AS THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST STARTS ON  
THURSDAY. IN ITS WAKE, LARGER SCALE MEAN TROUGHING SHOULD PREVAIL  
OVER EASTERN NORTH AMERICA (LED BY A SHORTWAVE DIVING INTO THE  
UPPER GREAT LAKES FROM CANADA, POSSIBLY FOLLOWED BY A WEAKER  
SHORTWAVE BY SUNDAY-MONDAY) WHILE A PERSISTENT UPPER RIDGE JUST  
INLAND FROM THE WEST COAST GRADUALLY RETROGRADES OFFSHORE. DESPITE  
THE SOMEWHAT AMPLIFIED PATTERN, EXPECT RELATIVELY QUIET WEATHER  
CONDITIONS ACROSS MOST OF THE CONUS INTO THE START OF NEXT WEEK.  
EXCEPTIONS WILL INCLUDE SOME SOUTHWEST RAINFALL IN RESPONSE TO  
MONSOONAL MOISTURE AND A WEAK UPPER LOW SETTLING JUST SOUTH OF THE  
REGION, AND A POTENT CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. COLD FRONT PRODUCING  
SOME RAIN ESPECIALLY IN THE GREAT LAKES REGION ALONG WITH  
CONSIDERABLY COOLER TEMPERATURES AFTER ITS PASSAGE. THE WESTERN  
U.S./EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER RIDGE WILL SUPPORT VERY WARM  
TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE PERIOD.  
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
LATEST MODELS AND ENSEMBLES MAINTAIN AGREEMENT FOR THE GENERAL  
PATTERN CONSISTING OF THE WESTERN U.S. RIDGE RETROGRADING INTO THE  
EASTERN PACIFIC AS INITIAL WEAK ENERGY SETTLES OVER PARTS OF THE  
WEST, THE MEAN TROUGH PREVAILING OVER THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OF  
THE LOWER 48, AND A WEAK ARIZONA/NEW MEXICO UPPER LOW SETTLING  
OVER NORTHERN GULF OF CALIFORNIA FOR A TIME BEFORE OPENING UP BY  
SUNDAY OR MONDAY.  
 
EMBEDDED DETAILS ARE MORE UNCERTAIN THOUGH. MODELS DEVELOP 12-24  
HOURS OR SO OF TIMING SPREAD FOR THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE  
NORTHEASTERN U.S. AND SOUTHEASTERN CANADA LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND. THE 00Z ECMWF WAS FASTEST WHILE THE 00Z/06Z GFS WERE  
SLOWEST. LATEST UKMET RUNS LEAN MUCH CLOSER TO THE SLOW SIDE WHILE  
THE 12Z CMC HAS TRENDED SOMEWHAT FASTER THAN ITS 00Z RUN (NOW  
CLOSER TO THE ECMWF) AND 12Z GFS ACCELERATED TO A COMPROMISE. THUS  
IT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DETERMINE ANY CONCLUSIVE TRENDS.  
BEHIND THIS SYSTEM, 00Z THROUGH 12Z RUNS ARE SHOWING AN INCREASING  
SIGNAL FOR ANOTHER SHORTWAVE (POSSIBLY CLOSED PER THE 12Z  
UKMET/CMC) REACHING THE FAR NORTHERN TIER BY EARLY DAY 6 SUNDAY.  
THIS FEATURE ORIGINATES FROM AROUND SOUTHERN ALASKA/NORTHWESTERN  
CANADA ON SUNDAY. THERE IS ENOUGH AGREEMENT ON ITS EXISTENCE BUT  
FAVOR A CONSERVATIVE OPEN WAVE DEPICTION AT THIS TIME SINCE MODELS  
ARE INCONSISTENT IN ITS EVOLUTION. A BLENDED APPROACH LOOKS GOOD  
FOR THE WEAK ENERGY DROPPING INTO THE WEST (00Z CMC WAS EXTREME  
WITH FORMING A CLOSED LOW). FINALLY, CURRENT SPREAD/RUN-TO-RUN  
VARIABILITY SUGGEST AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION FOR HOW LATE-PERIOD  
GULF OF ALASKA INTO CANADA ENERGY MAY BREAK DOWN THE NORTHERN PART  
OF THE MEAN RIDGE. BASED ON GUIDANCE THROUGH 06Z, THE UPDATED  
FORECAST STARTED WITH AN OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE FOR THE FIRST  
HALF OF THE PERIOD AND THEN TRENDED TO A HALF MODELS/HALF ENSEMBLE  
MEANS BLEND BY DAY 7 MONDAY. THE PRIMARY CONTINUITY CHANGE WAS  
INTRODUCTION OF THE SUNDAY-MONDAY NORTHERN TIER WAVE/FRONTAL  
SYSTEM. QPF ADJUSTED THE 13Z NATIONAL BLEND OF MODELS TO REFLECT A  
WIDER FOOTPRINT FOR LIGHT AMOUNTS (MOSTLY IN THE GREAT  
LAKES/NORTHEAST AND SOUTHWESTERN U.S.) GIVEN THE TYPICALLY LOW  
BIAS FOR LIGHT PRECIPITATION IN THE NBM.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE COMBINATION OF PERSISTENT MONSOONAL MOISTURE AND AN UPPER LOW  
SETTLING OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF CALIFORNIA WILL PRODUCE DIURNAL  
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER PARTS OF THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES, WITH LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL POSSIBLE IN SOME SPOTS.  
INTENSITY AND COVERAGE MAY VARY FROM DAY TO DAY, WITH SOME  
EASTWARD EXPANSION OF RAINFALL POSSIBLE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE  
UPPER LOW OPENS UP. TO THE NORTH, A COLD FRONT SHIFTING ACROSS THE  
MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES MAY BRING SOME LIGHT RAIN MAINLY AROUND  
THURSDAY, AND THEN LAKE ENHANCED SHOWERS IN THE WESTERLY FLOW  
BEHIND THE FRONT FRIDAY AND PERHAPS SATURDAY.  
 
TEMPERATURES OUT WEST WILL BE WARM INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK UNDERNEATH  
A BLOCKY UPPER RIDGE, WITH DAYTIME HIGHS OVER THE NORTHWEST 10 TO  
15 DEGREES OR SO ABOVE NORMAL. DESPITE THE ANOMALIES, THE  
RESULTING TEMPERATURES PEAKING IN THE 70S AND 80S (90S FOR PARTS  
OF CALIFORNIA) ARE UNLIKELY TO CREATE ANY HEAT RELATED HAZARDS.  
CONVERSELY, CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE SPILLING INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. AND EXPANDING EASTWARD BEHIND THE COLD FRONT WILL RESULT IN  
MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES SHIFTING FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
INTO THE MIDWEST AND INTO MUCH OF THE EAST THURSDAY-MONDAY.  
DAYTIME HIGHS IN SOME LOCATIONS COULD BE 15 TO 20 DEGREES BELOW  
AVERAGE (MAINLY THURSDAY-SATURDAY) WHILE OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES  
ARE FORECAST TO DROP INTO THE 30S FOR MANY LOCATIONS FROM THE  
NORTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS INTO CENTRAL APPALACHIANS, AND EVEN  
20S FOR NORTH DAKOTA AND NORTHERN MINNESOTA PARTICULARLY FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 
RAUSCH/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
HAZARDS:  
- FLOODING OCCURRING OR IMMINENT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST.  
- HIGH WINDS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES AND THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THU-FRI, OCT  
6-OCT 7.  
- MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS, THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS,  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS, THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE SOUTHERN  
APPALACHIANS, THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE GREAT LAKES, AND THE OHIO VALLEY, SAT-SUN,  
OCT 8-OCT 9.  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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