849  
FXUS02 KWBC 042036  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
435 PM EDT TUE OCT 04 2022  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 07 2022 - 12Z TUE OCT 11 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A STRONG MEAN RIDGE, INITIALLY NEAR THE WEST COAST ON FRIDAY AND  
LIKELY RETROGRADING OFFSHORE THEREAFTER, WILL ANCHOR A FAIRLY  
AMPLIFIED UPPER PATTERN DURING THE PERIOD AND SUPPORT VERY WARM  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE WEST INTO AT LEAST MONDAY. MEANWHILE A  
DOWNSTREAM UPPER TROUGH ALONG WITH TRAILING PLAINS INTO EASTERN  
U.S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BRING A PERIOD OF WELL BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES THROUGH EARLY MONDAY. GUIDANCE HAS BEEN WAFFLING  
WITH DETAILS OF A POSSIBLE SHORTWAVE/SURFACE SYSTEM THAT MAY DROP  
INTO THE NORTHERN TIER AROUND SUNDAY AND THEN WITH A LARGER SCALE  
TROUGH EXPECTED TO REACH THE CANADA AND THE NORTHWESTERN U.S.  
DURING THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK. A WEAK UPPER LOW MAY OPEN  
UP/EJECT FROM ITS POSITION OVER FAR NORTHWESTERN MEXICO AFTER  
SUNDAY BUT COULD BE REPLACED BY OTHER WEAK ENERGY DESCENDING OVER  
THE WEST, KEEPING A MODEST MEAN TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHWEST.  
OVERALL THIS PATTERN WILL SUPPORT FAIRLY LOW COVERAGE/INTENSITY OF  
PRECIPITATION OVER THE LOWER 48. THE BEST DEFINED RAINFALL FOCUS  
WILL BE OVER THE FOUR CORNERS STATES AND VICINITY WITH THE  
COMBINATION OF THE PERSISTENT UPPER TROUGH/LOW NEAR THE WESTERN  
MEXICO BORDER AND MONSOONAL MOISTURE IN PLACE. OTHER AREAS OF  
RAINFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST EARLY IN  
THE PERIOD AND THE FLORIDA PENINSULA. UNCERTAIN DETAILS OF THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL U.S. FRONT SUNDAY ONWARD AS WELL AS HOW MUCH  
TROUGHING REACHES THE NORTHWEST WILL DETERMINE CORRESPONDING  
PRECIPITATION OVER THOSE AREAS DURING THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
WITHIN THE EASTERN MEAN TROUGH, THERE IS STILL SOME SPREAD AND  
VARIABILITY FOR THE LEADING SHORTWAVE ENERGY/SURFACE SYSTEM  
CROSSING SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND NEW ENGLAND LATE THIS WEEK.  
RELATIVE TIMING HAS SWITCHED FROM 24-36 HOURS AGO, WITH THE 00Z  
ECMWF NOW A BIT ON THE SLOWER SIDE WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS FASTER TO  
VARYING DEGREES. THE 00Z UKMET WAS CLOSE TO THE GFS/CMC BUT THE  
NEW 12Z RUN HAS STRAYED FASTER THAN THE OTHERS. AN INTERMEDIATE  
FORECAST APPEARS BEST FOR THIS SYSTEM. TRAILING SHORTWAVE  
DIFFERENCES HAVE LESS IMPACT ASIDE FROM PERHAPS HOW MUCH OF A  
SURFACE TROUGH COULD BRUSH THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST.  
 
THE ECMWF HAS BEEN MOST CONSISTENT WITH THE SHORTWAVE AND SURFACE  
LOW/FRONT REACHING THE NORTHERN TIER BY SUNDAY. THE 00Z UKMET WAS  
SIMILAR TO THE 00Z ECMWF. REMAINING MODELS HAVE HAD VARYING  
IDEAS, INCLUDING SPLITTING THE ORIGINAL GULF OF ALASKA ENERGY (00Z  
GFS) OR DEPICTING A SLOWER CLOSED LOW/TROUGH (00Z CMC/06Z GFS).  
THE NEW 12Z UKMET TRENDED A LITTLE SLOWER AND DEEPER/MORE CLOSED  
BUT THE GFS/CMC ARE NOW A BETTER FIT WITH THE OVERALL CLUSTER.  
PREFERENCE SIDES WITH A BLENDED/CONTINUITY APPROACH.  
 
SPREAD AN RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY BECOME SIGNIFICANT FOR THE TROUGH  
EXPECTED TO BEING AMPLIFYING INTO CANADA AND THE  
NORTHWESTERN/NORTHERN U.S. EARLY NEXT WEEK. ECMWF/ECMWF RUNS HAVE  
TENDED TO SHOW MORE TROUGHING INTO THE NORTHWEST, WITH MULTI-RUN  
CONTINUITY OF THE ECMWF OVERALL SHOWING A TREND TOWARD MORE  
TROUGHING INTO THE NORTHWEST. THE 12Z GFS AND 00Z CMC ARE ON THE  
OTHER EXTREME, WITH A FARTHER EAST PACIFIC RIDGE/DOWNSTREAM TROUGH  
CONFIGURATION. THE 06Z GFS WAS CLOSER TO THE LATEST GEFS/CMCENS  
RUNS THAT ARE JUST A LITTLE EAST OF THE ECMWF MEAN. MULTI-DAY D+8  
MEANS SHOW SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE POSITION OF THE EXPECTED CORE  
OF POSITIVE HEIGHT ANOMALIES OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC/GULF OF  
ALASKA BUT TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THIS ANOMALY CENTER  
GENERALLY SUPPORT SOME DEGREE OF TROUGH ELONGATION INTO THE WEST  
NEAR AND SOON AFTER THE END OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. THIS  
WOULD AT LEAST RECOMMEND LEANING AWAY FROM THE 00Z/12Z GFS AND 00Z  
CMC.  
 
GUIDANCE PREFERENCES ULTIMATELY LED TO USING A 00Z/06Z MODEL  
COMPOSITE EARLY IN THE PERIOD, FOLLOWED BY TRENDING THE FORECAST  
TO EVEN PROPORTIONS OF THE 06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF, THEIR ENSEMBLE  
MEANS, AND WPC CONTINUITY. FOR THE QPF, THE NATIONAL BLEND OF  
MODELS ONCE AGAIN SEEMED TOO CONFINED WITH ITS COVERAGE,  
ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST AND FOR EARLY-PERIOD LAKE  
EFFECT/TERRAIN ENHANCED ACTIVITY IN THE NORTHEAST. THE NBM ALSO  
APPEARED SOMEWHAT UNDERDONE WITH RAINFALL OVER THE CENTRAL U.S.  
EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH THE EMERGENCE OF SOME SOUTHWEST MONSOONAL  
MOISTURE AND POSSIBLE FRONTAL APPROACH, THOUGH WITH LOW CONFIDENCE  
IN THE MAGNITUDE.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE COMBINATION OF PERSISTENT MONSOONAL MOISTURE AND AN UPPER LOW  
OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF CALIFORNIA WILL PRODUCE DIURNAL SHOWERS  
AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER PARTS OF THE SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN ROCKIES  
THROUGH THE WEEKEND, WITH LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL POSSIBLE IN SOME  
SPOTS. INTENSITY AND COVERAGE MAY VARY FROM DAY TO DAY. THE UPPER  
LOW SHOULD OPEN UP AFTER SUNDAY BUT MAY BE REPLACED BY ADDITIONAL  
WEAK ENERGY. THIS EVOLUTION MAY HELP TO SPREAD SOME OF THE  
MOISTURE EASTWARD INTO THE PLAINS WHERE IT COULD INTERACT WITH A  
FRONT, WHILE LEADING TO A SOMEWHAT LIGHTER AND MORE SCATTERED  
TREND FOR RAINFALL OVER THE SOUTHWEST. THE SYSTEM ANCHORING THE  
PLAINS FRONT COULD ALSO BRING LIGHT RAIN INTO THE MIDWEST/GREAT  
LAKES BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN SPECIFICS AT THIS TIME. UPPER  
TROUGHING AND A COLD FRONT REACHING THE NORTHWEST/NORTHERN ROCKIES  
BY NEXT TUESDAY COULD BRING SOME RAIN AND PERHAPS EVEN HIGH  
ELEVATION SNOW INTO REGION, AGAIN WITH FAIRLY LOW CONFIDENCE FOR  
NOW. IN THE EAST, LAKE EFFECT/TERRAIN ENHANCED PRECIPITATION  
SHOULD TAPER OFF AFTER FRIDAY. LIGHT TO LOCALLY MODERATE RAINFALL  
WILL LIKELY SPREAD NORTHWARD OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA AS  
EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW STRENGTHENS BEHIND A FRONT THAT ULTIMATELY  
REPLACES AN INITIAL FRONT STALLED NEAR THE KEYS.  
 
MUCH OF THE WEST WILL SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES AT LEAST  
THROUGH MONDAY, WITH HIGHS 10-15F OR SO ABOVE NORMAL MOST LIKELY  
OVER THE NORTHWEST. EVEN WITH THESE ANOMALIES, THE RESULTING  
TEMPERATURES PEAKING IN THE 70S AND 80S (90S FOR PARTS OF  
CALIFORNIA) ARE UNLIKELY TO CREATE ANY MORE THAN ISOLATED/MODERATE  
HEAT RELATED ISSUES. EXPECT A COOLING TREND BY TUESDAY. ON THE  
OTHER HAND, AN AREA OF WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL EXTEND  
FROM THE NORTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE PLAINS INTO THE EAST LATE THIS  
WEEK INTO EARLY MONDAY. SOME AREAS MAY SEE HIGHS 15-20F BELOW  
NORMAL FRIDAY-SATURDAY. MORNING LOWS MAY BE A LITTLE LESS EXTREME  
BUT SHOULD STILL DROP INTO THE 30S FOR MANY LOCATIONS FROM THE  
NORTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS, AND  
EVEN 20S FOR NORTH DAKOTA AND NORTHERN MINNESOTA ON FRIDAY MORNING.  
 
RAUSCH/SANTORELLI  
 
HAZARDS:  
- HIGH WINDS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES, FRI, OCT 7.  
- MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS, THE NORTHEAST, THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS, THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS, THE TENNESSEE VALLEY, THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE  
MID-ATLANTIC, THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS, THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, THE SOUTHEAST, THE GREAT LAKES, AND THE OHIO VALLEY,  
FRI-SUN, OCT 7-OCT 9.  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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