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FXUS02 KWBC 142037  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
436 PM EDT FRI OCT 14 2022  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 17 2022 - 12Z FRI OCT 21 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW AMPLIFIED/BLOCKY UPPER LEVEL FLOW FOR  
MOST OF THE PERIOD, WITH TROUGHING IN THE EASTERN U.S. HELD IN  
PLACE BY STRONG RIDGES OVER THE NORTHWEST U.S./WESTERN CANADA AND  
THE ATLANTIC. THE NORTHWEST RIDGE WILL BE PART OF A REX BLOCK  
CONFIGURATION, WITH A SHORT-TERM UPPER LOW WEAKENING OVER THE  
SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON MONDAY AND ANOTHER UPPER LOW FORMING OFFSHORE  
CALIFORNIA BY MIDWEEK AS UPSTREAM EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH ENERGY  
SPLITS. AROUND THE END OF NEXT WEEK THE MODELS/MEANS SUGGEST THE  
START OF A TRANSITION TO A NEW PATTERN, WITH DIFFERENCES IN HOW  
THIS WILL OCCUR. THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN FOR MOST OF THE PERIOD  
WILL SUPPORT WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER THE EASTERN HALF  
OF THE COUNTRY AS WELL AS THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS, ALONG  
WITH VERY WARM TEMPERATURES OVER THE NORTHWEST. THE WEAKENING  
SOUTHERN ROCKIES UPPER LOW SHOULD HELP PRODUCE NOTABLE RAINFALL  
FOR PORTIONS OF NEW MEXICO AND TEXAS MONDAY AND PERHAPS LINGERING  
IN SOUTHERN TEXAS TUESDAY. MEANWHILE THE ENERGY ALOFT AND WESTERLY  
FLOW OVER THE GREAT LAKES WILL LEAD TO MULTIPLE DAYS OF LAKE  
EFFECT PRECIPITATION (INCLUDING SOME SNOW) WHILE A DEVELOPING LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM AND LEADING WAVY FRONT MAY BRING MEANINGFUL  
PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTHEAST MONDAY-TUESDAY.  
 
   
..MODEL AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
OVERALL THE GUIDANCE HAS SETTLED INTO A REASONABLE CLUSTER FOR THE  
EARLY-MID WEEK EVOLUTION OVER THE EAST, WITH AN UPPER LOW LIKELY  
TRACKING EASTWARD FROM THE UPPER GREAT LAKES AND THEN LIFTING  
NORTHWARD OVER WESTERN QUEBEC. ASSOCIATED LOW PRESSURE OVER  
SOUTHEASTERN CANADA SHOULD ANCHOR A WAVY COLD FRONT THAT LIFTS  
THROUGH THE NORTHEAST. THERE IS STILL SOME SPREAD FOR EXACT  
DETAILS OF FRONTAL TIMING/WAVINESS, WHICH WILL IMPORTANT FOR  
RAINFALL COVERAGE AND AMOUNTS, BUT CURRENT DIFFERENCES ARE  
GENERALLY WITHIN TYPICAL GUIDANCE SPREAD AND ERROR RANGES FOR 3-5  
DAYS OUT IN TIME.  
 
FARTHER UPSTREAM THERE HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT SIGNAL FOR NORTHERN  
STREAM PACIFIC ENERGY TO ROUND THE WESTERN RIDGE AND THEN DROP  
INTO THE EASTERN U.S. MEAN TROUGH, SUPPORTING A FRONTAL SYSTEM  
THAT PUSHES INTO THE LOWER 48 TO THE EAST OF THE ROCKIES AROUND  
MID-LATE WEEK. HOWEVER THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR DEGREE OF SPREAD OVER  
THE DETAILS OF THIS ENERGY AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE SYSTEM OVER  
RECENT DAYS, REFLECTING THE TYPICALLY LOWER PREDICTABILITY FOR  
RESOLVING SPECIFICS OF SUCH SHORTWAVES. THERE ARE STILL NOTICEABLE  
DIFFERENCES IN THE NEW 12Z RUN BUT THE MODELS DO SEEM TO BE  
TRENDING A LITTLE CLOSER TOGETHER.  
 
AFTER MIDWEEK LARGER SCALE PATTERN ISSUES START TO ARISE, AS  
ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN RUNS HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN MOST AGGRESSIVE TO  
FLATTEN THE NORTHWEST U.S./WESTERN CANADA UPPER RIDGE. IN  
CONTRAST, THE PAST COUPLE DAYS OF GFS/GEFS RUNS HAVE ACTUALLY  
TRENDED STRONGER WITH THE RIDGE. THE CMC/CMC MEAN OFFER A  
COMPROMISE THAT TILTS SOMEWHAT IN THE GFS/GEFS DIRECTION. THE 00Z  
ECMWF WAS ON THE QUICK SIDE TO SPLIT ITS EAST-CENTRAL PACIFIC FLOW  
AROUND MIDWEEK AND MAY BE SOMEWHAT AGGRESSIVE TO BREAK DOWN THE  
RIDGE, WITH CONSENSUS PARTICULARLY EMPHATIC ABOUT MAINTAINING  
BROADER CYCLONIC FLOW OVER THE EAST INTO FRIDAY VERSUS THE ECMWF.  
TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THE CORE OF POSITIVE HEIGHT ANOMALIES  
OVER THE PACIFIC IN THE D+8 MULTI-DAY MEANS SUPPORT EVENTUAL  
TROUGHING NEAR/INLAND FROM THE WEST COAST--WHICH MOST GUIDANCE  
SHOWS BY NEXT WEEKEND. THUS AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION CLOSE TO  
CONTINUITY APPEARS BEST AT THIS TIME. FARTHER SOUTH, THE GEFS MEAN  
AND CMC/CMCENS ARE FASTEST WITH THE NEXT UPPER LOW APPROACHING THE  
SOUTHWEST WHILE THE ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN ARE SLOWEST. A COMPROMISE  
CURRENTLY LOOKS GOOD FOR RESOLVING THIS SPREAD.  
 
THE UPDATED FORECAST MAINTAINED THE APPROACH OF USING A 12Z/18Z  
OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE FOR ABOUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD  
FOLLOWED BY A TRANSITION TO A BLEND OF MODELS AND GEFS/ECMWF MEANS  
BY DAYS 6-7 THURSDAY-FRIDAY. THIS YIELDED THE DESIRED INTERMEDIATE  
SOLUTION SIMILAR TO CONTINUITY WITH THE INCREASING SPREAD LATE IN  
THE FORECAST.  
 
   
..SENSIBLE WEATHER AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS
 
 
HEAVY RAINFALL IS LIKELY TO REMAIN ACROSS NEW MEXICO AND MUCH OF  
THE SOUTHWESTERN HALF OF TEXAS ON MONDAY, AIDED BY A WEAKENING  
CLOSED LOW CROSSING THE SOUTHWEST AND A SURFACE FRONT PUSHING  
THROUGH AND SOUTH OF SOUTHERN TEXAS. ISOLATED FLASH FLOODS ARE  
POSSIBLE WITH THE HIGHEST RAINFALL AMOUNTS IN SOUTHERN TEXAS, BUT  
THE DRIER SOIL MOISTURE MAY PRECLUDE WIDESPREAD ISSUES. ALSO THE  
CONTINUED SCATTER IN GUIDANCE PLACEMENT OF THE HIGHEST QPF WITHIN  
THIS GENERAL AREA KEEPS CONFIDENCE LOW ENOUGH NOT TO INTRODUCE ANY  
SLIGHT RISK AREA IN THE DAY 4 EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK. THE INITIAL CLOUDS/RAIN AND THE COOLER AIRMASS BEHIND THE  
FRONT WILL KEEP HIGH TEMPERATURES 10-20F BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE  
FIRST HALF OF THE WEEK FOR THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES/SOUTHERN PLAINS,  
GRADUALLY WARMING TO NEAR NORMAL BY LATE IN THE WEEK.  
 
WITHIN THE PERSISTENT EASTERN UPPER TROUGH, CANADIAN ENERGY  
DIGGING INTO A GREAT LAKES UPPER LOW BY MONDAY WILL DEVELOP A  
POTENT SURFACE WAVE AND FRONTAL SYSTEM THAT COULD PRODUCE AREAS OF  
MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST ON  
MONDAY AND TUESDAY. IMPORTANT TIMING DIFFERENCES IN THE GUIDANCE  
ARE BECOMING LESS PRONOUNCED BUT ARE STILL ENOUGH TO MAINTAIN SOME  
UNCERTAINTY IN COVERAGE/AMOUNTS OF ENHANCED RAIN. LATEST MODELS  
ARE GENERALLY SUGGESTING THAT HEAVIEST RAINFALL POTENTIAL ALONG  
THE FRONT MAY BE ON TUESDAY WITH CONSIDERABLE MOISTURE TRANSPORT  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT. HOWEVER IT WILL BE A VERY CLOSE CALL AS TO  
WHETHER THIS BAND OF HEAVY RAIN WILL BE OVER PARTS OF MAINE OR  
JUST TO THE EAST, DEPENDING ON FINE-SCALE UPPER SHORTWAVE/FRONTAL  
WAVE DETAILS THAT MAY NOT BE FULLY RESOLVED UNTIL THE SHORT RANGE.  
WELL BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES (MINUS 10-20F ANOMALIES, LOCALLY  
GREATER OVER SOME AREAS MONDAY-TUESDAY) WILL SPREAD THROUGH THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY BEHIND THIS SYSTEM. RECORDS FOR LOW  
MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES MAY BE MOST COMMON, THOUGH A HANDFUL OF  
RECORD LOW MINIMUM TEMPERATURES MAY BE SET AS WELL. THESE  
TEMPERATURES WILL PROVIDE AN EARLY PREVIEW OF NOVEMBER/DECEMBER.  
AREAS OF LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW WILL BE WIDESPREAD MONDAY-TUESDAY  
BUT SHOULD GRADUALLY DECREASE IN COVERAGE/INTENSITY AFTER MIDWEEK.  
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVER THE MIDWEST AND INTO THE SOUTHEAST IN  
THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT WILL SUPPORT A BROAD AREA OF DRY WEATHER.  
 
THE NORTHWEST UPPER RIDGE PERSISTING INTO AT LEAST THURSDAY WILL  
KEEP TEMPERATURES OVER THE REGION WELL ABOVE NORMAL THROUGH THE  
PERIOD, WITH EACH DAY FEATURING SOME PLUS 10-20F ANOMALIES.  
SCATTERED RECORD HIGHS ARE POSSIBLE. SOME OF THIS WARMTH WILL  
GRADUALLY SPREAD INTO THE NORTHERN-CENTRAL PLAINS BY  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. EXPECT THE WEST TO REMAIN MAINLY DRY THROUGH  
THE PERIOD UNTIL SOME SHOWERS MAY REACH THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S.  
LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE NEXT UPPER LOW APPROACHES. THE FAR  
NORTHERN PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST COULD BEGIN TO SEE A LITTLE  
PRECIPITATION BY THE END OF THE WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY THE  
UPPER RIDGE WEAKENS.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
HAZARDS:  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS, MON-TUE, OCT 17-OCT 18.  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS, MON, OCT 17.  
- FLOODING OCCURRING OR IMMINENT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST.  
- MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS, THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS, THE TENNESSEE VALLEY, THE GREAT  
LAKES, THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY, THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS, THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY,  
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, AND THE OHIO  
VALLEY, MON-WED, OCT 17-OCT 19.  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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