504  
FXUS02 KWBC 160659  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EDT SUN OCT 16 2022  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 19 2022 - 12Z SUN OCT 23 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS WEDNESDAY WITH AN AMPLIFIED/BLOCKY  
UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERN CONSISTING OF POTENT TROUGHING ACROSS THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE U.S. EXTENDING SOUTH FROM AN ANOMALOUSLY  
STRONG UPPER LOW IN EASTERN CANADA AND AN UPPER RIDGE/HIGH OVER  
MUCH OF THE WEST. THIS PATTERN SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THURSDAY  
WHILE STRONG SHORTWAVES MOVE THROUGH THE EASTERN TROUGH AND A  
SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW SLOWLY EDGES EASTWARD ACROSS THE PACIFIC  
TOWARD SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED PRECIPITATION  
(INCLUDING SOME SNOW) WILL BE COMMON THROUGH MIDWEEK ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES WITH LIGHTER AMOUNTS LATER IN THE WEEK. THROUGH  
THURSDAY TEMPERATURES WILL BE MUCH BELOW AVERAGE IN THE EASTERN  
HALF OF THE COUNTRY BUT WARMER THAN AVERAGE IN THE NORTHWEST UNDER  
THE RIDGE. A PATTERN CHANGE APPEARS LIKELY LATE IN THE WEEK, WITH  
OVERALL DEAMPLIFICATION OF THE UPPER FLOW FRIDAY BEFORE TROUGHING  
LOOKS TO COME INTO THE WEST OVER THE WEEKEND, WHICH SHOULD FOCUS  
THE WARMTH OVER THE PLAINS WITH A TREND TOWARD MORE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES ELSEWHERE BEFORE EVENTUAL COOLING IN THE WEST.  
 
   
..MODEL AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THE FORECAST DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD CONTINUES TO SHOW  
BETTER THAN AVERAGE AGREEMENT AND CONTINUITY OVERALL,  
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPICALLY GOOD PREDICTABILITY OF A HIGHLY  
AMPLIFIED LARGE SCALE PATTERN. THERE ARE STILL SMALLER SCALE  
DIFFERENCES INVOLVING EMBEDDED ENERGIES WITHIN THE UPPER  
LOW/TROUGH IN THE EAST AND EXACT FRONTAL POSITIONS, BUT WITHOUT  
TOO MANY IMPACTS ON THE SENSIBLE WEATHER SINCE FRONTAL PASSAGES  
WILL MAINLY BE DRY BY THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. MEANWHILE THE  
MODELS/MEANS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP SOME SPREAD FOR THE UPPER LOW  
OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. OVER RECENT RUNS THE GFS/GEFS AND  
CMC HAVE TENDED TO BE ON THE FASTER SIDE WITH THE ECMWF ON THE  
SLOWER SIDE, WITH THE 00Z ECMWF MEAN BETWEEN THE TWO EXTREMES.  
NEWER 00Z RUNS ARE ON THE WHOLE SLOWER TO BRING THE FEATURE  
ONSHORE COMPARED TO THE 12/18Z GUIDANCE, SO THE DETAILS ARE YET TO  
BE FIGURED OUT.  
 
OVER THE PAST DAY OR SO, GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT  
ON THE LARGE SCALE WITH RESPECT TO HOW QUICKLY INCOMING PACIFIC  
FLOW BREAKS DOWN THE UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST. THIS LOOKS TO  
BEGIN ON THURSDAY WITH ENERGY OVER WESTERN CANADA WITH LOW  
AMPLITUDE TROUGHING PERHAPS GETTING ESTABLISHED ATOP THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES BY FRIDAY, WHILE ADDITIONAL ENERGY UPSTREAM COMES IN TO  
AMPLIFY TROUGHING OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST NUDGING EASTWARD FOR  
THE WEEKEND. THE INCOMING 00Z GUIDANCE HAS TENDED TO BE ON THE  
SAME PAGE WITH THE TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF THE TROUGH DEVELOPMENT.  
LESS CERTAIN IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE TIMING OF THE PHASING OF  
THIS DEVELOPING TROUGH WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM, WHICH WILL TAKE  
ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESOLVE.  
 
ANOTHER POSSIBLE ISSUE FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE PERIOD IS WITH  
ENERGY SEPARATING FROM THE EASTERN TROUGH INTO THE SOUTHERN STREAM  
WHILE THE OVERALL NORTHERN STREAM EASTERN TROUGH RETREATS LATE  
WEEK. THIS RELATIVELY SMALLER SCALE FEATURE REMAINS LESS  
PREDICTABLE AS ECMWF RUNS HAVE PERSISTENTLY SHOWN A SLOW-MOVING  
AND ENERGETIC FEATURE BUT GFS AND CMC RUNS HAVE WAFFLED, AND MOST  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS THAT ARE AGGRESSIVE WITH THE FEATURE ARE ECMWF  
MEMBERS.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FOR FRONTS/PRESSURES WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC 12/18Z MODELS TO RESOLVE LINGERING DETAIL QUESTIONS  
DURING THE FIRST PART OF THE PERIOD, AND THEN INCORPORATED GEFS  
AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS BY DAY 5 AND BEYOND AS OPERATIONAL MODELS  
DIVERGED WITH SOME DETAILS. THIS APPROACH SEEMED TO PROVIDE GOOD  
CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST THOUGH WITH A NUDGE TOWARD  
RECENT TRENDS.  
 
   
..SENSIBLE WEATHER AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS  
 
THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. SHOULD OVERALL BE RATHER DRY ON  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW  
DUE TO UPPER LEVEL ENERGY AND THE WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE  
RELATIVELY WARM GREAT LAKES COMPARED TO THE COLD AIR TEMPERATURES.  
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY TO BE HIGHER THROUGH WEDNESDAY  
DOWNWIND OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES IN PARTICULAR BUT WITH SOME  
LINGERING SHOWERS POSSIBLE INTO THURSDAY. SOUTH FLORIDA MAY SEE A  
FEW RAIN SHOWERS AS WELL, ALONG WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INTO THE  
SOUTHWEST WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW/TROUGH APPROACHING. BY LATE  
IN THE WEEK, THE UPPER TROUGH ARRIVAL/AMPLIFICATION ACROSS THE  
WEST AND AN ASSOCIATED SURFACE FRONT PUSHING ACROSS THE REGION IS  
FORECAST TO SPREAD NOTABLE PRECIPITATION CHANCES INTO AND  
EXPANDING ACROSS THE WEST, WITH TYPICAL TERRAIN ENHANCEMENT IN THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND ROCKIES WITH HIGHER ELEVATION RAIN AND LOWER  
ELEVATION SNOW. MEANWHILE SOME RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE EAST  
COAST THIS WEEKEND, BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE ON HOW MUCH RAIN COULD  
FALL ONSHORE.  
 
THE AMPLIFIED WESTERN RIDGE IN PLACE FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE  
PERIOD WILL CAUSE WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST IN PARTICULAR, WITH HIGHS COMMONLY 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE,  
POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SOME DAILY RECORD HIGHS THROUGH THURSDAY.  
CONVERSELY, THE ANOMALOUS UPPER LOW/TROUGH IN THE EAST SHOULD  
PRODUCE RATHER COLD TEMPERATURES MORE COMMON TO NOVEMBER AND  
DECEMBER FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD. BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES BY  
10-25F WILL BE WIDESPREAD AND TRANSLATE INTO LOWS IN THE 30S  
SPREADING SOUTH POSSIBLY ALL THE WAY TO THE GULF COAST (MOBILE,  
ALABAMA FOR EXAMPLE) FOR WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. THE SOUTHEAST COULD  
ALSO SEE HIGHS IN THE 50S AND 60S, AND RECORD LOW MAXIMUM AND  
MINIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO BE SET IN THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
AS THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN RELAXES AROUND FRIDAY AND THEN  
TRANSITIONS TO A WESTERN TROUGH/EASTERN RIDGE PATTERN, ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES SHOULD GET PUSHED INTO THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS SEEING HIGHS OF 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE.  
 
TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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