877  
FXUS02 KWBC 161859  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
258 PM EDT SUN OCT 16 2022  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 19 2022 - 12Z SUN OCT 23 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS WEDNESDAY WITH AN AMPLIFIED/BLOCKY  
UPPER LEVEL FLOW PATTERN CONSISTING OF POTENT TROUGHING ACROSS THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE U.S. EXTENDING SOUTH FROM AN ANOMALOUSLY  
STRONG UPPER LOW IN EASTERN CANADA AND AN UPPER RIDGE/HIGH OVER  
MUCH OF THE WEST. THIS INITIAL PATTERN WILL PROMOTE RELATIVELY DRY  
WEATHER OVER MUCH OF THE LOWER 48, ASIDE FROM LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED  
PRECIPITATION (INCLUDING SOME SNOW), ALONG WITH UNSEASONABLY  
CHILLY TEMPERATURES OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY AND VERY  
WARM WEATHER OVER THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE WEST. THEN LATEST  
GUIDANCE STILL ADVERTISES A PRONOUNCED PATTERN CHANGE HEADING INTO  
NEXT WEEKEND, WITH AN AMPLIFYING UPPER TROUGH BRINGING COOLER AND  
WETTER WEATHER TO THE WEST WHILE AREAS EAST OF THE ROCKIES TREND  
WARMER WITH THE GREATEST ANOMALIES OVER THE PLAINS. MEANWHILE A  
SOUTHERN STREAM PACIFIC UPPER LOW SHOULD EVENTUALLY TRACK TOWARD  
THE WESTERN U.S.-MEXICO BORDER AND MAY INCREASE RAINFALL CHANCES  
OVER THE SOUTHWEST TO SOME DEGREE BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
   
..MODEL AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE FIRST COUPLE DAYS OF THE FORECAST SHOW GOOD AGREEMENT AND  
STABILITY OVERALL, AS MIGHT BE EXPECTED GIVEN THE TYPICALLY GOOD  
PREDICTABILITY OF AMPLIFIED FLOW. THERE ARE ONLY MINOR DIFFERENCES  
WITH EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES AND ASIDE FROM ANY INFLUENCE ON LAKE  
EFFECT PRECIPITATION, IMPACTS ON SENSIBLE WEATHER SHOULD BE  
MINIMAL GIVEN THE OTHERWISE DRY PATTERN.  
 
INTO DAY 6 SATURDAY THE GUIDANCE IS GRADUALLY CONVERGING WITH  
RESPECT TO DETAILS OF THE PATTERN CHANGE AS AN UPPER TROUGH  
REACHES THE NORTHWEST. THERE WERE SEVERAL 00Z GEFS MEMBERS THAT  
DEPICTED A RIDGE AT THAT TIME BUT ONLY ONE CMC ENSEMBLE MEMBER  
(SHIFTED A BIT EASTWARD) AND NO ECMWF MEMBERS. THE 12Z GEFS  
MEMBERS SHOW A GREATER MEMBER PROPORTION SIDING WITH THE MAJORITY  
TROUGH SCENARIO PER OTHER OPERATIONAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS,  
AS ONLY ONE MEMBER NOW SHOWS A RIDGE. BY SUNDAY THERE ARE MORE  
DIFFERENCES WITH TROUGH SHAPE/TIMING AND UPSTREAM FLOW. THE 12Z  
GFS HAS GONE TO A CLOSED LOW IN CONTRAST TO AN OPEN TROUGH IN  
PRIOR RUNS (AND OTHER MODELS) WHILE LATEST CMC RUNS ARE SHIFTED A  
BIT EAST WITH THE OVERALL PACIFIC/WESTERN U.S. PATTERN.  
 
ELSEWHERE, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO WAFFLE FOR THE SOUTHERN STREAM  
PACIFIC UPPER LOW. GENERAL TREND OVER THE PAST DAY HAS BEEN SLOWER  
(DELAYING ANY MOISTURE REACHING THE SOUTHWEST) BUT THE 06Z GFS  
TOOK THIS TO AN APPARENT EXTREME. IN CONTRAST THE 12Z GFS JUMPS TO  
THE FAST SIDE OF THE SPREAD BY SATURDAY. FINALLY, MODELS/ENSEMBLES  
REMAIN INDECISIVE ABOUT WEAK SOUTHEAST U.S. ENERGY THAT MAY  
SEPARATE FROM THE WESTERLIES AROUND THE END OF THE WEEK. THE WEAK  
AND FAIRLY SMALL SCALE NATURE OF THIS ENERGY LEADS TO LOW  
PREDICTABILITY IN THE MEDIUM RANGE TIME FRAME. OVERALL THE ECMWF  
HAS BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT WITH ITS FORECAST UPPER LOW AND TRACK  
BUT STILL SHOWS SOME RUN-TO-RUN OSCILLATIONS (12Z RUN BACK TO THE  
WEST). AMONG ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE, ECMWF MEMBERS HAVE A GREATER  
PERCENTAGE DEPICTING SUCH A TROUGH/LOW RELATIVE TO THE  
GEFS/CMCENS. THE RELATIVE LACK OF AGREEMENT AND LOW PREDICTABILITY  
ULTIMATELY FAVOR MAINTAINING A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THE  
DEPICTION OF THIS FEATURE AND ITS POTENTIAL EFFECT ON THE WAVY  
FRONT OFF THE SOUTHEAST.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FOR FRONTS/PRESSURES WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC 00Z/06Z MODELS TO RESOLVE LINGERING DETAIL QUESTIONS  
DURING THE FIRST PART OF THE PERIOD, AND THEN INCORPORATED GEFS  
AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS AFTER EARLY FRIDAY AS OPERATIONAL MODELS  
DIVERGED WITH VARIOUS DETAILS. THIS APPROACH MAINTAINED GOOD  
CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST ASIDE FROM TYPICAL NUDGES  
REFLECTING LATEST TRENDS.  
 
   
..SENSIBLE WEATHER AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS
 
 
THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. SHOULD OVERALL BE RATHER DRY ON  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW  
DUE TO UPPER LEVEL ENERGY AND THE WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE  
RELATIVELY WARM GREAT LAKES COMPARED TO THE COLD AIR TEMPERATURES.  
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY TO BE HIGHER THROUGH WEDNESDAY  
DOWNWIND OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES IN PARTICULAR BUT WITH SOME  
LINGERING SHOWERS POSSIBLE INTO THURSDAY. SOUTH FLORIDA MAY SEE A  
FEW RAIN SHOWERS AS WELL. BY LATE IN THE WEEK THROUGH NEXT  
WEEKEND, THE UPPER TROUGH ARRIVAL/AMPLIFICATION ACROSS THE WEST  
AND AN ASSOCIATED SURFACE FRONT PUSHING ACROSS THE REGION SHOULD  
PRODUCE A NOTABLE INCREASE IN PRECIPITATION COVERAGE AND  
INTENSITY. BEST FOCUS WILL BE OVER FAVORED WINDWARD TERRAIN OVER  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND THEN EXTENDING INTO THE NORTHERN-CENTRAL  
ROCKIES, WITH HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW AND LOWER ELEVATION RAIN.  
CONFIDENCE IN A MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION EVENT IS INCREASING BUT  
IT WILL TAKE MORE TIME TO REFINE IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT WILL  
INFLUENCE PRECISE TIMING AND TOTALS AT ANY PARTICULAR LOCATION.  
THE SOUTHERN STREAM PACIFIC UPPER LOW MAY REACH FAR ENOUGH EAST BY  
THIS WEEKEND TO PRODUCE SOME RAINFALL OVER THE SOUTHWEST.  
MEANWHILE SOME RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE ALONG OR NEAR THE EAST COAST  
THIS WEEKEND, BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE ON HOW MUCH RAIN COULD FALL  
ONSHORE.  
 
THE AMPLIFIED WESTERN RIDGE IN PLACE FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE  
PERIOD WILL CAUSE WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST IN PARTICULAR, WITH HIGHS COMMONLY 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE,  
POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SOME DAILY RECORD HIGHS THROUGH THURSDAY.  
CONVERSELY, THE ANOMALOUS UPPER LOW/TROUGH IN THE EAST SHOULD  
PRODUCE RATHER COLD TEMPERATURES MORE COMMON TO NOVEMBER AND  
DECEMBER FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD. BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES BY  
10-25F WILL BE WIDESPREAD AND TRANSLATE INTO LOWS IN THE 30S  
SPREADING SOUTH POSSIBLY ALL THE WAY TO THE GULF COAST (MOBILE,  
ALABAMA FOR EXAMPLE) FOR WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. THE SOUTHEAST COULD  
ALSO SEE HIGHS IN THE 50S AND 60S, AND RECORD LOW MAXIMUM AND  
MINIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO BE SET IN THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
AS THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN RELAXES AROUND FRIDAY AND THEN  
TRANSITIONS TO A WESTERN TROUGH/EASTERN RIDGE PATTERN, ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES SHOULD GET PUSHED INTO THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS SEEING HIGHS OF 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE.  
EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO REBOUND OVER THE EAST, REACHING NEAR NORMAL  
OVER THE SOUTHEAST AFTER A CHILLY MORNING ON SATURDAY WHILE  
TRENDING ABOVE NORMAL OVER THE NORTHEAST. MUCH OF THE WEST SHOULD  
SEE MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL HIGHS BY NEXT SUNDAY.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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