669  
FXUS02 KWBC 170659  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
258 AM EDT MON OCT 17 2022  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 20 2022 - 12Z MON OCT 24 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
ONE MORE DAY OF AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGHING IS FORECAST FOR THE  
EASTERN U.S. AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS ON THURSDAY,  
CAUSING COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN THE EAST AND WARM  
TEMPERATURES UNDERNEATH RIDGING IN THE WEST, WITH DRY CONDITIONS  
FOR MOST AREAS. THEN A PRONOUNCED PATTERN CHANGE IS EXPECTED FOR  
LATE WEEK AS A TROUGH IN THE WEST DEVELOPS AND PERSISTS INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK WITH SOME MOVEMENT EASTWARD. THE ENERGY ALOFT AND A  
SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEM OR TWO WILL LEAD TO INCREASING  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE WEST WITH HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW,  
WHILE TEMPERATURES COOL THERE AS WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES  
SHIFT TOWARD THE CENTRAL U.S. INTO THE NORTHEAST.  
 
   
..MODEL AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL AGREEMENT REMAINS QUITE GOOD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD  
FOR EASTERN TROUGHING EXTENDING FROM A SOUTHEASTERN CANADA UPPER  
LOW, RIDGING ACROSS THE WEST, AND A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW  
OFFSHORE CALIFORNIA. THERE ARE ONLY MINOR DIFFERENCES WITH  
EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES AND ASIDE FROM ANY INFLUENCE ON LAKE EFFECT  
PRECIPITATION, IMPACTS ON SENSIBLE WEATHER SHOULD BE MINIMAL GIVEN  
THE OTHERWISE DRY PATTERN. BY DAY 4/FRIDAY MODELS SHOW THE BULK OF  
THE EASTERN TROUGHING IS LIKELY TO RETREAT NORTHEASTWARD, BUT WITH  
SOME ENERGY LINGERING IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM THAT IS MORE  
UNCERTAIN. ECMWF RUNS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT WITH SHOWING A CLOSED  
UPPER LOW FORMING BY SATURDAY, THOUGH WITH SOME POSITION  
OSCILLATIONS, AS HAVE SOME EC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, WHILE OTHER  
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN WEAKER. THE WEAK AND FAIRLY SMALL SCALE NATURE  
OF THIS ENERGY LEADS TO LOW PREDICTABILITY IN THE MEDIUM RANGE  
TIME FRAME, SO THE WPC FORECAST CONTINUES TO TAKE A CONSERVATIVE  
APPROACH WITH SOME WEAK TROUGHING AND ITS RELATION TO A WAVY FRONT  
IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC, NOT AS STRONG AS THE ECMWF.  
 
MEANWHILE IN THE WEST, ENERGY BEGINS TO SUPPRESS THE INITIAL  
WESTERN RIDGE BY FRIDAY BUT ADDITIONAL, STRONGER ENERGY IS  
FORECAST TO DIG INTO THE NORTHWEST BY SATURDAY TO DEEPEN  
TROUGHING. MODEL GUIDANCE IS AGREEABLE ABOUT THIS, BUT THE MORE  
UNCERTAIN FACTOR IS WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF PHASING THE TROUGH  
WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW. THROUGH THE 12/18Z MODEL CYCLE, GFS  
RUNS SHOWED MORE PHASING OF THE FEATURES COMPARED TO THE ECMWF AND  
CMC THAT MAINTAIN SEPARATION, WHILE ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW  
CONSIDERABLE VARIABILITY. BY SUNDAY AND MONDAY THIS LEADS TO ONE  
TROUGH TREKKING MORE SLOWLY ACROSS THE WEST-CENTRAL U.S. IN THE  
GFS, WHILE THE EC/CMC HAVE THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH TRACKING  
ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. FASTER WHILE THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW  
LINGERS NEAR BAJA CALIFORNIA. THE 00Z GFS REMAINS MORE PHASED  
WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF STICKS WITH STREAM SEPARATION, AND THE 00Z CMC  
SWITCHES TO MORE PHASING. THESE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE UPPER LEVELS  
WILL AFFECT THE FRONTAL POSITION AND THE TIMING OF RAIN BEGINNING  
IN THE CENTRAL U.S., SO THE FORECAST IS LIKELY TO BE REFINED WITH  
TIME. ANOTHER ROUND OF ENERGY MAY APPROACH THE WEST BY MONDAY BUT  
WITH CONSIDERABLE VARIABILITY. THE ECWMF INCLUDING THE 00Z RUN IS  
ON THE STRONGER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE WITH THIS ENERGY.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FOR FRONTS/PRESSURES WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC 12Z/18Z MODELS TO RESOLVE LINGERING DETAIL QUESTIONS  
DURING THE FIRST PART OF THE PERIOD, AND THEN INCORPORATED GEFS  
AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE PERIOD AND  
QUICKLY INCREASED THEIR PROPORTIONS AS OPERATIONAL MODELS DIVERGED  
WITH VARIOUS DETAILS. THIS APPROACH MAINTAINED GOOD CONTINUITY  
WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST ASIDE FROM TYPICAL NUDGES REFLECTING  
LATEST TRENDS.  
 
   
..SENSIBLE WEATHER AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS
 
 
THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. SHOULD OVERALL BE RATHER DRY ON THURSDAY, WITH  
THE EXCEPTION OF LINGERING LIGHT LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW DUE TO  
UPPER LEVEL ENERGY AND THE WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE RELATIVELY  
WARM GREAT LAKES COMPARED TO THE COLD AIR TEMPERATURES. SOUTH  
FLORIDA MAY SEE A FEW RAIN SHOWERS AS WELL. BY LATE IN THE WEEK  
THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND, THE UPPER TROUGH ARRIVAL/AMPLIFICATION  
ACROSS THE WEST AND AN ASSOCIATED SURFACE FRONT PUSHING ACROSS THE  
REGION SHOULD PRODUCE A NOTABLE INCREASE IN PRECIPITATION COVERAGE  
AND INTENSITY. THE BEST FOCUS WILL BE OVER FAVORED WINDWARD  
TERRAIN OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON FRIDAY AND THEN EXTENDING  
SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES AND WASATCH OVER  
THE WEEKEND, WITH HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW AND LOWER ELEVATION RAIN.  
CONFIDENCE IN A MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION EVENT IS BECOMING FAIRLY  
GOOD, BUT EXACT AMOUNTS OF RAIN/SNOW AND TIMING WILL STILL NEED TO  
BE REFINED WITH TIME. PRECIPITATION MAY ALSO BE POSSIBLE ACROSS  
THE SOUTHWEST FRIDAY AND ESPECIALLY SATURDAY DEPENDING ON THE  
TRACK OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW AND ITS EVENTUAL POSSIBLE  
PHASING. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, RAIN CHANCES MAY INCREASE FOR THE  
CENTRAL U.S. AS GULF MOISTURE STREAMS IN AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT.  
MEANWHILE SOME RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE ALONG OR NEAR THE EAST COAST  
THIS WEEKEND INTO MONDAY, BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE ON HOW MUCH RAIN  
COULD FALL ONSHORE.  
 
THE AMPLIFIED WESTERN RIDGE IN PLACE FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE  
PERIOD WILL CAUSE WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST IN PARTICULAR, WITH HIGHS COMMONLY 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE,  
POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SOME DAILY RECORD HIGHS THROUGH THURSDAY.  
CONVERSELY, THE ANOMALOUS UPPER LOW/TROUGH IN THE EAST SHOULD  
PRODUCE RATHER COLD TEMPERATURES MORE COMMON TO NOVEMBER AND  
DECEMBER FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD FOR THURSDAY. BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES BY 10-20F WILL BE WIDESPREAD AND TRANSLATE INTO LOWS  
IN THE 30S SPREADING SOUTH POSSIBLY ALL THE WAY TO THE GULF COAST  
(MOBILE, ALABAMA FOR EXAMPLE), WHICH COULD SET LOW TEMPERATURE  
RECORDS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. AS THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN RELAXES  
AROUND FRIDAY AND THEN TRANSITIONS TO A WESTERN TROUGH/EASTERN  
RIDGE PATTERN, ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES SHOULD GET PUSHED INTO  
THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS SEEING HIGHS OF  
10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE. TEMPERATURES ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY  
WARM IN THE MIDWEST TO NORTHEAST EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE BELOW  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES PARTICULARLY FOR HIGHS ARE LIKELY ACROSS THE  
WEST GIVEN THE TROUGH ALOFT.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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