956  
FXUS02 KWBC 190649  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
248 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2022  
 
VALID 12Z SAT OCT 22 2022 - 12Z WED OCT 26 2022  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A SIGNIFICANT PATTERN CHANGE REMAINS LIKELY FOR THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD COMPARED TO THE WEST UPPER RIDGE/EAST UPPER TROUGH PATTERN  
IN THE SHORT RANGE. UPPER TROUGHING WILL STRENGTHEN IN THE WEST  
THIS WEEKEND AND PROGRESS TOWARD THE CENTRAL U.S. INTO NEXT WEEK.  
THIS DEEP TROUGH AND A COUPLE OF COLD FRONTS WILL LEAD TO AREAS OF  
LOWER ELEVATION RAIN/HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW AS WELL AS COOLER  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE WEST, AND WILL EVENTUALLY SPREAD INCREASING  
RAIN CHANCES TO THE PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY NEXT WEEK. AHEAD OF  
THE TROUGH AND FRONT, WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE  
FORECAST TO SHIFT FROM THE CENTRAL U.S. INTO THE NORTHEAST, WITH  
MAINLY DRY CONDITIONS IN THE EAST ASIDE FROM SOME POSSIBLE RAIN  
ALONG THE EAST COAST DEPENDENT ON THE POSITIONING OF A WAVY  
OFFSHORE FRONT AND UPPER-LEVEL ENERGY.  
 
   
..MODEL AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
WHILE MODEL GUIDANCE IS AGREEABLE THAT TROUGHING WILL AMPLIFY IN  
THE WEST THIS WEEKEND, PREDICTABILITY AND CONFIDENCE QUICKLY  
DECREASE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS MODELS DIVERGE. MUCH OF THE MODEL  
SPREAD ARISES FROM DIFFERENCES IN THE POTENTIAL PHASING OF THE  
TROUGH FORMING IN THE NORTHERN STREAM AND A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER  
LOW OFFSHORE OF CALIFORNIA AND MEXICO. THIS HAS BEEN AN AREA OF  
CONSIDERABLE DISAGREEMENT OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS IN OPERATIONAL  
GUIDANCE AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS. THE ECMWF RUNS HAVE BEEN MOSTLY  
CONSISTENT WITH LEAVING THESE TWO FEATURES IN THEIR SEPARATE  
STREAMS THROUGH AT LEAST MONDAY, LEADING TO A FASTER NORTHERN  
STREAM TROUGH/FORMING UPPER LOW WHILE THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW  
SPINS IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC BEFORE EVENTUALLY COMING INTO THE  
SOUTHWEST. MEANWHILE GFS RUNS HAD GENERALLY BEEN ON THE MORE  
PHASED SIDE, CREATING ONE TROUGH THAT STEADILY PROGRESSES EAST  
WITH IN-BETWEEN TIMING...UNTIL THE 18Z GFS RUN THAT WAS PRETTY  
SIMILAR TO THE 12Z ECMWF. THE CMC AND UKMET BOTH PHASE THE  
ENERGIES PRETTY QUICKLY TO CREATE A DEEP GREAT BASIN/FOUR CORNERS  
LOW SUNDAY-MONDAY. MODELS WITH MORE STREAM SEPARATION LIKE THE  
ECMWF AND 18Z GFS INDICATE A FASTER NORTHERN STREAM COLD FRONT OF  
COURSE, AND KEEP PRECIPITATION IN THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. EARLY  
NEXT WEEK, LESS SO IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. LIKE OTHER GUIDANCE  
AND THE ENSEMBLE MEANS. ENSEMBLE MEMBERS REMAIN QUITE VARIABLE,  
WHICH DOES NOT LEAD TO GOOD CONFIDENCE IN ANY PARTICULAR SOLUTION.  
THE 00Z MODEL GUIDANCE INCLUDING THE ECMWF CAME IN MORE ON THE  
PHASED SIDE, THOUGH ONCE AGAIN NOT AS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE PHASING  
AS THE UKMET AND CMC.  
 
MEANWHILE, AT LEAST MODEL CLUSTERING HAS IMPROVED SOMEWHAT WITH  
MID-UPPER ENERGY MOVING NORTHWARD NEAR THE EAST COAST THIS WEEKEND  
INTO MONDAY WITH PERHAPS A WEAK SURFACE LOW, FOR SOME RAIN CHANCES  
ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST BUT POTENTIALLY SPREADING MORE INLAND  
INTO THE NORTHEAST AROUND SUNDAY-MONDAY. THERE ARE STILL SOME  
DETAIL DIFFERENCES WITH THIS RELATIVELY SMALL-SCALE FEATURE  
THOUGH. AND MODELS HAVE SHOWN SOME WAFFLING ON TIMING OF POSSIBLY  
A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF ADDITIONAL ENERGY COMING INTO THE WEST  
BEHIND THE INITIAL DEVELOPING TROUGH. GFS RUNS/GEFS ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS HAVE SHOWN MORE RIDGING ACROSS THE WEST IN BETWEEN THE  
TROUGHING FEATURES THAN THE BULK OF THE EC GUIDANCE SUITE FOR  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY.  
 
THUS THE WPC FORECAST COULD USE A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND  
FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE FORECAST TIMEFRAME, BUT THE INCREASING  
MODEL DIFFERENCES LED TO INCREASING USAGE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
THROUGH THE PERIOD. THIS FORECAST ATTEMPTED TO GIVE A NOD TOWARD  
THE MORE SEPARATED STREAM SOLUTIONS BUT NOT AS AGGRESSIVELY AS THE  
12Z ECMWF/18Z GFS, WHICH WAS LIKELY GOOD GIVEN THE SOMEWHAT MORE  
PHASED 00Z RUNS. RELATIVELY LARGE CHANGES TO MANY FORECAST  
VARIABLES INCLUDING THE QPF MAY BE NECESSARY OVER THE NEXT FEW  
DAYS GIVEN THE CURRENT LOW PREDICTABILITY EXTENDING EVEN INTO DAYS  
4-5.  
 
   
..SENSIBLE WEATHER AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS
 
 
PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY ACROSS THE MUCH OF THE WEST BY SATURDAY AS  
THE UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFIES AND THE FIRST SURFACE COLD FRONT MOVES  
THROUGH, FOR ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR COOL SEASON-TYPE PRECIPITATION  
EVENTS SINCE MUCH EARLIER THIS YEAR. PRECIPITATION WILL BE  
ENHANCED ACROSS FAVORED WINDWARD TERRAIN OF THE CASCADES, ROCKIES,  
AND WASATCH OVER THE WEEKEND, WITH HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW AND LOWER  
ELEVATION RAIN. CONFIDENCE IN A MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION EVENT  
REMAINS FAIRLY GOOD, BUT EXACT AMOUNTS OF RAIN/SNOW AND TIMING  
WILL STILL NEED TO BE REFINED WITH TIME. ANOTHER COUPLE OF ROUNDS  
OF PRECIPITATION COULD CONTINUE/REFORM EARLY NEXT WEEK IN THE  
NORTHWEST BUT WITH EVEN MORE UNCERTAINTY. PRECIPITATION MAY ALSO  
BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST FOR THE WEEKEND BUT WILL BE  
DEPENDENT ON THE TIMING AND TRACK OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM LOW AND  
ITS EVENTUAL POSSIBLE PHASING. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES SHOULD GENERALLY INCREASE ACROSS THE PLAINS AND INTO THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH AND A DEVELOPING LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM. AREAS OF ENHANCED TO POSSIBLY HEAVY RAINFALL ARE  
LIKELY, WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME SNOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE  
SURFACE LOW INTO THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS, BUT THE SPECIFICS OF  
BOTH ARE NOT YET CLEAR AT THIS TIME. MEANWHILE, SOME RAIN MAY BE  
POSSIBLE ALONG OR NEAR THE EAST COAST THIS WEEKEND INTO MONDAY  
ASSOCIATED WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY AND POSSIBLE LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM, BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE ON HOW MUCH RAIN COULD FALL  
ONSHORE VERSUS REMAINING OFFSHORE.  
 
TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO BE WARMER THAN AVERAGE ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL U.S. FOR THE WEEKEND AHEAD OF THE DEVELOPING WESTERN UPPER  
TROUGH. HIGHS AND LOWS OF 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL, WITH SOME SPOTS  
HIGHER, WILL BE WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE PLAINS TO UPPER MIDWEST.  
MEANWHILE, AN AREA OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL EXPAND FROM  
THE WEST COAST STATES INTO THE GREAT BASIN AND ROCKIES THIS  
WEEKEND, WITH LOWS AROUND 5-15F BELOW AVERAGE AND HIGHS 10-20F  
BELOW AVERAGE. TEMPERATURES SHOULD COOL TO NEAR NORMAL AND EVEN  
BELOW NORMAL FOR THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. NEXT WEEK AS THE UPPER  
TROUGH AND COLD FRONT(S) MOVE THROUGH. THIS WILL PUSH WARMER THAN  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES INTO THE NORTHEASTERN U.S. BY  
MONDAY-WEDNESDAY.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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