050  
FXUS02 KWBC 020701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT WED NOV 02 2022  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 05 2022 - 12Z WED NOV 09 2022  
 
...SOME LINGERING HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL WITH THE SATURDAY  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY SYSTEM/FRONT...  
 
...CHILLY PATTERN OVER THE WEST WITH SIGNIFICANT RAIN/MOUNTAIN  
SNOW OVER SOME AREAS...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
EXPECT A LEADING MISSISSIPPI VALLEY SYSTEM AS OF EARLY SATURDAY TO  
EJECT RAPIDLY INTO CANADA BY SATURDAY NIGHT. AS A STRONG UPPER  
RIDGE ALONG AND OFFSHORE THE EAST COAST PROVIDES RESISTANCE, A  
PORTION OF THE FRONT TRAILING FROM THE SURFACE LOW TO STALL AND  
EVENTUALLY LIFT NORTHWEST AS A WARM FRONT BEFORE DISSIPATING.  
GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT THE AXIS OF AN AMPLIFIED MEAN TROUGH WILL  
SETTLE NEAR THE WEST COAST, BUT WITH SOME UNCERTAINTY OVER THE  
AMPLITUDE OF THIS TROUGH/PROGRESSION OF EJECTING ENERGY DUE TO  
DIFFERENCES IN THE DEPICTION OF A STRONG UPPER RIDGE THAT BUILDS  
OVER ALASKA AND VICINITY. AT THE VERY LEAST THIS PATTERN SHOULD  
SUPPORT SEVERAL DAYS OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE WEST  
AND MULTIPLE EPISODES OF RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOW FROM THE WEST  
COAST INTO THE ROCKIES. A SYSTEM EMERGING FROM THE WEST COULD  
ALSO PRODUCE MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTHERN  
TIER DURING THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THE MODELS AND MEANS ARE STILL NUDGING A LITTLE FASTER FOR THE  
INITIAL MISSISSIPPI VALLEY SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED FRONTS, BUT  
RUN-TO-RUN CHANGES SEEM TO BE GETTING A LITTLE LESS PRONOUNCED  
WITH TIME AND CLUSTERING IS GRADUALLY IMPROVING AS WELL. AN  
OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE HANDLED THIS SYSTEM WELL, ACCOUNTING  
FOR LINGERING DETAIL SPREAD AND UNCERTAINTY.  
 
THE PRIMARY LARGE SCALE ISSUE BEHIND THIS SYSTEM IS HOW AMPLIFIED  
THE WEST COAST TROUGH BECOMES ALONG WITH THE SPECIFICS OF ENERGY  
ROUNDING THE TROUGH AND EJECTING DOWNSTREAM DURING THE FIRST HALF  
OF NEXT WEEK. AMONG THE 12Z/18Z RUNS, THESE DIFFERENCES BECAME  
NOTICEABLE BY DAY 5 MONDAY WITH THE GFS/GEFS STARTING TO BECOME  
MORE AMPLIFIED THAN MOST OTHER MODELS TO VARYING DEGREES. THIS  
LEADS TO THE EMBEDDED UPPER LOW OFF VANCOUVER ISLAND OR THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST TRACKING FARTHER SOUTH BY LATE IN THE  
PERIOD. IN ADDITION GREATER RIDGING DOWNSTREAM LED TO SLOWER  
PROGRESSION OF EJECTING SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE  
SYSTEM EARLY-MID WEEK. THESE DIFFERENCES CORRESPONDED TO THE  
GFS/GEFS DEPICTING A WEAKER/MORE OPEN ALASKA RIDGE COMPARED TO THE  
MAJORITY. SUCH ISSUES WITH ALASKA RIDGING IN THE COLD SEASON TEND  
TO LOWER PREDICTABILITY DOWNSTREAM. THUS PREFERRED TILTING AT  
LEAST TWO-THIRDS TOWARD THE MAJORITY SCENARIO WHICH IS CLOSER TO  
CONTINUITY, BY WAY OF MORE 12Z ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN WEIGHT RELATIVE TO  
THE 18Z GFS/GEFS MEAN. AS SEEMINGLY CONFIRMED BY THE NEW 00Z RUN,  
THE 12Z CMC BECAME SUSPICIOUSLY AMPLIFIED WITH ITS EAST-CENTRAL  
U.S. SHORTWAVE BY NEXT WEDNESDAY AND THUS ITS INPUT WAS MINIMIZED  
LATE. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF, AS WELL AS THE UKMET THROUGH THE END OF  
ITS RUN, NOW SHIFT THE BALANCE OF SOLUTIONS MORE IN THE GFS  
DIRECTION--HIGHLIGHTING THE ONGOING UNCERTAINTY.  
 
FINALLY, DETAILS CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE WITHIN A MORE BROADLY  
AGREEABLE UPPER LOW EXPECTED TO WOBBLE FROM NEAR THE EASTERN  
BAHAMAS TOWARD THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST (WITH ACCOMPANYING  
SURFACE LOW/TROUGH). SPECIFICS WILL DEPEND IN PART ON THE  
UNCERTAIN DETAILS OF FLOW TO THE WEST. A BLEND APPROACH APPEARS  
REASONABLE FOR DEPICTING THIS FEATURE.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE LEADING SYSTEM TRACKING NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY ON SATURDAY, ALONG WITH ITS ASSOCIATED FRONTS, WILL PRODUCE  
SOME LOCALLY MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL BUT LIKELY WITH LOWER  
TOTALS THAN EXPECTED DURING FRIDAY-FRIDAY NIGHT. AREAS OF INTEREST  
FOR ENHANCED RAINFALL WILL BE OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT  
LAKES NEAR THE SURFACE LOW TRACK AS WELL AS OVER/NEAR THE LOWER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS THE TRAILING FRONT DECELERATES.  
 
AREAS FROM THE WEST COAST INTO THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE ROCKIES  
SHOULD SEE MULTIPLE EPISODES OF RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW,  
WITH SNOW LEVELS TENDING TO DECLINE WITH TIME AS THE MEAN TROUGH  
ALOFT NEAR THE WEST COAST AMPLIFIES. UNCERTAINTY OVER THE PRECISE  
AMPLITUDE OF THE TROUGH LOWERS CONFIDENCE IN THE PRECISE FOCUS OF  
HIGHEST TOTALS BUT THE BEST SIGNAL AT THE MOMENT IS GENERALLY OVER  
SOUTHERN OREGON AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. MULTIPLE SYSTEMS MAY  
PROVIDE ADDED FOCUS. THESE INCLUDE A FRONT REACHING THE NORTHWEST  
BY SATURDAY AND A SYSTEM APPROACHING THE NORTHWEST ON SUNDAY. ANY  
POTENTIAL SYSTEMS NEXT WEEK HAVE LOWER CONFIDENCE. THIS LOWER  
CONFIDENCE EXTENDS TO ANY LOW PRESSURE THAT MAY EXTEND INTO THE  
PLAINS WITH AN AREA OF SNOW OR RAIN DEPENDING ON TRACK/EVOLUTION.  
 
MOISTURE SHOULD EVENTUALLY INCREASE NEAR THE EAST COAST NEXT WEEK  
AS THE UPPER LOW INITIALLY OVER THE EASTERN BAHAMAS RETROGRADES  
TOWARD THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S./FLORIDA.  
 
AFTER A BRIEF REBOUND TO ONLY MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES  
OVER THE WEST DURING THE WEEKEND, THE FORECAST OF AN AMPLIFYING  
UPPER TROUGH NEXT WEEK SHOULD EXPAND THE COVERAGE OF HIGHS 10-20F  
BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE WEST ONCE AGAIN. COLDEST AIR SHOULD EXTEND  
FROM WESTERN CANADA INTO MONTANA WITH SOME HIGHS IN THAT STATE  
20-35F BELOW NORMAL MONDAY-WEDNESDAY. IN CONTRAST TO THE SOMEWHAT  
WINTER-LIKE TEMPERATURES OVER THE WEST, THE EAST WILL SEE  
TEMPERATURES MORE TYPICAL FOR EARLIER IN THE FALL WITH A BROAD  
AREA OF PLUS 10-25F ANOMALIES, ESPECIALLY SATURDAY-MONDAY WHEN  
DAILY RECORDS SHOULD BE MOST NUMEROUS. ANOMALIES SHOULD BE A  
LITTLE MORE EXTREME FOR MORNING LOWS VERSUS DAYTIME HIGHS. PLUS  
10-20F READINGS SHOULD BE MORE COMMON BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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