197  
FXUS02 KWBC 030701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT THU NOV 03 2022  
 
VALID 12Z SUN NOV 06 2022 - 12Z THU NOV 10 2022  
 
...CHILLY PATTERN OVER THE WEST WITH SIGNIFICANT RAIN/MOUNTAIN  
SNOW OVER SOME AREAS...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
GUIDANCE TRENDS OVER THE PAST DAY HAVE YIELDED IMPROVED AGREEMENT  
IN PRINCIPLE FOR THE SHAPE OF STRONG UPPER RIDGING FORECAST TO  
BUILD INTO ALASKA AND NORTHWESTERN CANADA. AS A RESULT THE LATEST  
MODELS/MEANS ARE NOW BETTER CLUSTERED FOR THE DOWNSTREAM EVOLUTION  
FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC THROUGH THE LOWER 48. CURRENT CONSENSUS  
SHOWS A STRONGLY AMPLIFYING TROUGH NEAR THE WEST COAST  
SUNDAY-TUESDAY, ANCHORED BY AN UPPER LOW DRIFTING SOUTHWARD JUST  
WEST OF VANCOUVER ISLAND AND PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. THEN THE  
TROUGH SHOULD PROGRESS INLAND DURING WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. THE EARLY  
WEEK DEEPENING OF THE TROUGH WILL SERVE TO REBUILD AN UPPER RIDGE  
OVER THE EAST. MEANWHILE MOST SOLUTIONS SHOW AN UPPER LOW  
INITIALLY NEAR THE EASTERN BAHAMAS TRACKING INTO FLORIDA OR  
SOUTHEASTERN COAST, UNDERNEATH THE RIDGE THAT BUILDS FARTHER  
NORTH. THE WESTERN TROUGH WILL BRING MULTIPLE DAYS OF WELL BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND A BROAD AREA OF RAIN/MOUNTAIN SNOW, WITH  
SIGNIFICANT TOTALS OVER SOME AREAS. EJECTING ENERGY/MOISTURE COULD  
SPREAD SOME PRECIPITATION FARTHER EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER.  
ON THE OTHER HAND MOST OF THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY WILL SEE  
UNSEASONABLY WARM TEMPERATURES AND THE BAHAMAS SYSTEM MAY  
EVENTUALLY SPREAD RAINFALL INTO SOME AREAS NEAR THE EAST COAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THERE IS STILL A WINDOW FOR MORE CHANGES TO OCCUR, BUT WITH OTHER  
GUIDANCE OVER THE PAST 24-36 HOURS GRAVITATING TO THE PRIOR  
GFS/GEFS IDEA OF AN OPEN RIDGE BUILDING INTO ALASKA/NORTHWESTERN  
CANADA LEADING TO STRONG WEST COAST TROUGH AMPLIFICATION,  
CONFIDENCE IS FINALLY INCREASING THAT THIS IS THE MOST LIKELY  
SCENARIO TO OCCUR. THIS EVOLUTION OVER THE WEST HAS LED TO  
STRONGER TRENDS FOR RIDGING THAT BUILDS OVER THE EAST, AND IN TURN  
POTENTIALLY A FARTHER SOUTH TRACK OF THE BAHAMAS SYSTEM COMPARED  
TO SOME RUNS FROM PREVIOUS DAYS.  
 
WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFICS, THERE IS NOW DECENT CLUSTERING WITH  
MOST ASPECTS OF THE FORECAST INTO EARLY DAY 5 TUESDAY. THIS  
FAVORED A 12Z/18Z OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE FOR THE PREPARATION  
OF THE LATEST FORECAST. THE NEW 00Z GFS BRINGS THE CORE OF ITS  
UPPER SYSTEM A LITTLE SOUTH OF OTHER SOLUTIONS BY TUESDAY BUT IS  
STILL WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. FARTHER EAST, AN INITIAL  
MIDWEST COLD FRONT TRAILING FROM A SOUTHERN CANADA SYSTEM MAKES  
GREATER SOUTHWARD PROGRESS OVER THE EAST THAN PRIOR CONSENSUS BY  
TUESDAY AND THE STRONGER TREND FOR EASTERN UPPER RIDGING SLOWS THE  
RETROGRESSION OF THE BAHAMAS SYSTEM.  
 
BY DAYS 6-7 WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, SOME TYPICAL SPREAD DEVELOPS FOR  
HOW LEADING ENERGY MAY EJECT FROM THE WESTERN TROUGH--LEADING TO  
DIFFERENCES FOR NORTHERN TIER U.S./SOUTHERN CANADA LOW  
PRESSURE--AND FOR DETAILS/TIMING OF THE WESTERN TROUGH ITSELF. THE  
ULTIMATE PATH OF THE BAHAMAS SYSTEM WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY THE  
CENTER OF THE EASTERN UPPER RIDGE SHIFTS INTO THE ATLANTIC. THE  
GFS HAS BEEN MORE PERSISTENT WITH THE RIDGE, KEEPING THE SYSTEM  
FARTHER SOUTH RELATIVE TO THE PAST COUPLE ECMWF RUNS THROUGH 12Z.  
BOTH THE 00Z ECMWF AND CMC HAVE FLIPPED FROM THEIR 12Z RUNS, THE  
NEW ECMWF SWITCHING TO THE GFS IDEA AND THE CMC SWITCHING FROM THE  
GFS TYPE SOLUTION TO LOOKING MORE LIKE THE 12Z ECMWF. NEEDLESS TO  
SAY, CONFIDENCE IS STILL BELOW AVERAGE FOR THIS ASPECT OF THE  
FORECAST. A GENERAL MODEL/MEAN BLEND PROVIDED A GOOD INTERMEDIATE  
DEPICTION FOR THE FEATURES OF INTEREST DURING DAYS 6-7.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE WEST WILL SEE A BROAD AREA OF RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW  
DURING THE PERIOD AS THE UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFIES NEAR THE COAST AND  
EVENTUALLY MOVES INLAND. STRONG LEADING DYNAMICS WILL INITIALLY  
PROVIDE THE BEST RAIN/MOUNTAIN SNOW FOCUS OVER WESTERN OREGON AND  
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ON SUNDAY. BROAD SOUTHERLY FLOW EAST OF THE  
OFFSHORE UPPER LOW COULD ALSO ENHANCE PRECIPITATION OVER PARTS OF  
NORTHERN-NORTHWESTERN WASHINGTON. FROM MONDAY ONWARD THE HIGHEST  
PRECIPITATION TOTALS SHOULD PUSH SOUTHEASTWARD, EXTENDING FROM THE  
COASTAL RANGES AND SIERRA NEVADA IN CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE GREAT  
BASIN AND NORTH-CENTRAL/CENTRAL ROCKIES. WESTERNMOST AREAS SHOULD  
BEGIN TO SEE A DRIER TREND AROUND MIDWEEK. MOISTURE/ENERGY  
EJECTING FROM THE WESTERN TROUGH MAY SPREAD ONE OR MORE AREAS OF  
PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER DURING THE FIRST HALF OF  
NEXT WEEK. BEST SNOW POTENTIAL SHOULD BE OVER MONTANA WITH THE  
COLD AIR IN PLACE OVER THE AREA. A WEAKENING AND  
STALLING/RETREATING FRONT MAY PRODUCE SOME LIGHT RAINFALL OVER  
PARTS OF THE EAST INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS EARLY IN THE PERIOD.  
MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BAHAMAS SYSTEM TRACKING TOWARD  
FLORIDA/SOUTHEASTERN COAST MAY SPREAD INTO PARTS OF THE EAST  
TUESDAY ONWARD. DETAILS OF COVERAGE AND TOTALS ARE STILL FAIRLY  
UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME, BUT SOME AREAS OF LOCALLY MODERATE TO  
HEAVY RAINFALL MAY BE POSSIBLE.  
 
THE WEST WILL SEE A BRIEF RECOVERY TO ONLY MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES EXTEND INTO SUNDAY. THEN THE AMPLIFYING UPPER TROUGH  
NEAR THE WEST COAST SHOULD SPREAD AN INCREASING AREA OF HIGHS  
10-20F BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE REGION DURING MONDAY-THURSDAY. THE  
COLDEST AIR WILL LIKELY EXTEND FROM WESTERN CANADA INTO MONTANA  
WITH RECENT FORECASTS CONSISTENTLY SHOWING HIGHS IN THAT STATE UP  
TO 20-35F BELOW NORMAL MONDAY-THURSDAY. SOME LOCATIONS OVER THE  
WEST MAY SEE DAILY RECORDS FOR COLD HIGHS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY. IN  
CONTRAST, WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL PREVAIL OVER MUCH OF  
THE EAST AND AT TIMES OVER THE PLAINS. THE EAST WILL SEE  
TEMPERATURES 10-25F ABOVE NORMAL ESPECIALLY DURING SUNDAY-MONDAY  
WHEN DAILY RECORDS FOR HIGHS AND/OR WARM LOWS ARE POSSIBLE. HIGHS  
WILL MODERATE NEAR THE EAST COAST THEREAFTER WITH INCREASING  
CLOUDS/MOISTURE BUT LOWS WILL REMAIN UNSEASONABLY WARM.  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAYS FOR THE  
CENTRAL-SOUTHERN PLAINS WITH READINGS 10-20F OR SO ABOVE NORMAL.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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