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FXUS02 KWBC 061913  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
212 PM EST SUN NOV 06 2022  
 
VALID 12Z WED NOV 09 2022 - 12Z SUN NOV 13 2022  
 
...HEAVY SNOW OVER THE WEST ON WEDNESDAY, WITH AN INCREASING  
WINTER STORM THREAT IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS ON THURSDAY...  
 
...TROPICAL DISTURBANCE COULD BRING HEAVY RAINFALL TO PARTS OF  
FLORIDA AND THE SOUTHEAST MID TO LATE WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH OVER THE WEST COAST TO START THE PERIOD  
WEDNESDAY WILL TRANSLATE INLAND OVER THE ROCKIES BY THURSDAY AND  
STRENGTHEN INTO A POSSIBLE CLOSED LOW OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT  
LAKES BY EARLY FRIDAY. THERE IS AN INCREASING THREAT FOR A WINTER  
STORM TO DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS WITH POSSIBLY  
APPRECIABLE ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY, THOUGH  
STILL PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY ON THE SPECIFICS. MEANWHILE, UPPER  
LEVEL RIDGING WILL PREVAIL ACROSS THE EASTERN U.S. THROUGH ABOUT  
THURSDAY BEFORE A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (THAT REMAINS QUITE LIKELY  
TO DEVELOP INTO A SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL STORM PER THE NATIONAL  
HURRICANE CENTER) OVER THE BAHAMAS/FLORIDA IS LIKELY TO GET  
WRAPPED UP INTO THE APPROACHING TROUGH FROM THE WEST. MODERATE TO  
HEAVY RAINFALL IS EXPECTED FOR FLORIDA AND SHOULD SPREAD UP THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODELS AGREE ON THE PRESENCE OF AMPLIFIED TROUGHING OVER THE WEST  
BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK AND THAT IT SHOULD HAVE A GENERAL TRACK  
EASTWARD, WITH A TREND OVER THE PAST DAY OR SO TOWARD AN UPPER LOW  
CLOSING OFF IN THE MIDWEST BY FRIDAY ESPECIALLY AMONG THE GFS AND  
ECMWF RUNS. THE WPC FORECAST CONTINUED TO INDICATE THIS CLOSED  
LOW. MORE UNCERTAIN IS THE EXACT TRACK OF THE ASSOCIATED SURFACE  
LOW AND THUS THE POSITIONING OF THE HEAVIEST WINTRY PRECIPITATION  
IN THE COLD AIR ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW. THE 00/06Z  
MODEL/ENSEMBLES SEEMED TO HAVE A BIT OF A TREND SOUTH COMPARED TO  
THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AND THE WPC FRONTS/PRESSURES PLOTS REFLECTED  
THIS, AS DID THE QPF (LESS PRECIPITATION FROM NORTH DAKOTA TO  
NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND MORE PRECIPITATION FROM SOUTH DAKOTA TO  
SOUTHERN MINNESOTA. THESE ARE SOMEWHAT MINOR CHANGES FOR THE  
MEDIUM RANGE TIMEFRAME BUT COULD HAVE CONSIDERABLE IMPACTS.  
OVERALL CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO INCREASE FOR A WINTER STORM, BUT  
THE PLACEMENT AND TIMING MAY CONTINUE TO SHIFT.  
 
FARTHER SOUTH, MODELS ALSO CONTINUE TO TREND TOWARDS THE POTENTIAL  
FOR A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL STORM TO FORM LIKELY IN THE NEXT  
COUPLE OF DAYS PER THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. MODELS GENERALLY  
TRACK THIS FEATURE WESTWARD POTENTIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS  
AND INTO AT LEAST EASTERN FLORIDA. MODELS/ENSEMBLE MEMBERS DIVERGE  
NOTABLY AFTER THAT. MOST SHOW THE TROPICAL SYSTEM ACCELERATING  
NORTHEASTWARD NEAR THE EASTERN SEABOARD AS IT GETS PICKED UP BY  
THE MIDLATITUDE TROUGH. BUT SOME (MAINLY GFS RUNS AND GEFS  
MEMBERS) SHOW THE FEATURE LINGERING OVER FLORIDA FOR LONGER,  
TRACKING IT WEST AND POTENTIALLY EVEN INTO THE EASTERN GULF. SO  
ITS TRACK REMAINS UNCERTAIN AT THIS POINT WITH PHASING  
DIFFERENCES. MONITOR THE LATEST OUTLOOKS AND FORECASTS FROM THE  
NHC REGARDING POSSIBLE TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM.  
UPSTREAM, A BRIEF PERIOD OF RIDGING IS FORECAST FOR THE WEST  
BEHIND THE MAIN TROUGH LATE THIS WORKWEEK, BUT THERE IS SOME  
UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TIMING OF ANOTHER TROUGH/POSSIBLE ELONGATED  
UPPER LOW APPROACHING THIS WEEKEND.  
 
THE UPDATED WPC FORECAST UTILIZED A BLEND OF THE 00Z/06Z  
DETERMINISTIC MODELS LED BY THE GFS AND ECMWF THROUGH DAY 5,  
ATTEMPTING TO MAINTAIN SOME STRENGTH OF SYSTEMS LIKE THE  
UPPER/SURFACE LOWS IN THE MIDWEST, AND GOING FOR MIDDLE GROUND  
POSITIONS. INTRODUCED AND INCREASED THE PROPORTION OF THE GEFS AND  
EC ENSEMBLE MEANS ON DAYS 6-7 GIVEN INCREASING LARGE SCALE  
UNCERTAINTIES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
HEAVY MOUNTAIN SNOW AND VALLEY RAIN WILL BE ONGOING ACROSS PARTS  
THE WEST ON WEDNESDAY, WITH THE HEAVIEST TOTALS ACROSS THE HIGHER  
TERRAIN OF THE GREAT BASIN. AS THE TROUGH MOVES INLAND AND  
STRENGTHENS, A DEFINED SURFACE LOW LOOKS TO EMERGE OUT OF THE  
CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS DEEPENING AS IT MOVES INTO THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY FRIDAY. WITH MODEL RUNS CONTINUING TO SHOW  
THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING AND POSSIBLY SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL  
ACROSS PARTS OF THE DAKOTAS AND FAR NORTHERN MINNESOTA THURSDAY  
INTO FRIDAY, THE PROBABILITIES IN THE WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR  
DAY 5 CONTINUE TO INCREASE, AND FOCUS A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH GIVEN  
THE RECENT MODEL TRENDS. DEPENDING ON STRENGTH OF THE LOW, GUSTY  
WINDS COULD ACCOMPANY SNOWFALL AND LEAD TO POSSIBLE BLIZZARD  
CONDITIONS. AGAIN, WHILE A MEANINGFUL WINTER STORM OVER PARTS OF  
THE NORTHERN TIER CONTINUES TO BECOME MORE LIKELY, THE SPECIFICS  
IN THE PLACEMENT OF THE HEAVIEST SNOW REMAIN IN QUESTION AND ARE  
DEPENDENT ON THE LOW PLACEMENT AND STRENGTH. IN THE WARM SECTOR OF  
THIS STORM, MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF  
THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES. ADDITIONALLY, THERE COULD BE AN  
AXIS OF FREEZING RAIN AND/OR SLEET BETWEEN THE SNOW AND RAIN WHERE  
TEMPERATURES AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT SUPPORT IT, BUT THE  
PLACEMENT REMAINS UNCERTAIN.  
 
DESPITE PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS STILL, THE TROPICAL  
DISTURBANCE MOVING TOWARDS FLORIDA LATER THIS WEEK CONTINUES TO  
SHOW AN INCREASING THREAT FOR COASTAL AND MARITIME IMPACTS,  
INCLUDING COASTAL FLOODING, TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS, HEAVY  
RAINFALL, ROUGH SURF, AND BEACH EROSION. A SLIGHT RISK OF  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL WAS ADDED TO THE DAY 5 EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK FOR THIS FORECAST TO SHOW THE POTENTIAL FOR FLASH  
FLOODING WITH THE HEAVY RAIN. THE AREA MAY HAVE TO SHIFT IN FUTURE  
FORECASTS DEPENDING ON THE TRACK OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM. MOISTURE  
FROM THIS SYSTEM SHOULD MOVE UP THE EAST COAST LATER THIS WEEK.  
AMOUNTS AND COVERAGE REMAIN UNCERTAIN. BUT IN THIS FORECAST, THERE  
HAPPENED TO BE GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT FOR HEAVIER RAIN TO COME  
ONSHORE IN THE CAROLINAS, MID-ATLANTIC, AND NORTHEAST, SO THE  
FORECAST REFLECTED HIGHER AMOUNTS ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD.  
 
MUCH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO EXPAND ACROSS THE  
WEST THROUGH THE LATTER PART OF THIS WEEK ASSOCIATED WITH THE  
DEEPENING UPPER TROUGH. THE COLDEST AIR WILL LIKELY BE ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS AND PLAINS WITH RECENT FORECASTS SHOWING  
HIGHS IN THAT AREA UP TO 20-30F BELOW NORMAL WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY.  
MANY LOCATIONS OVER THE WEST COULD SEE DAILY RECORDS FOR COLD  
HIGHS THROUGH WEDNESDAY. IN CONTRAST, WELL ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES WILL PROGRESS FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE EAST  
COAST WED-FRI WITH WIDESPREAD DAILY RECORDS FOR WARM LOWS  
POSSIBLE. WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE THE WARMEST DAY FOR THE PLAINS AND  
THURSDAY SHOULD BE FOR THE UPPER MIDWEST WITH READINGS 15-25F  
ABOVE NORMAL. A STRONG COLD FRONT THROUGH THIS REGION BY THURSDAY  
WILL USHER IN A MUCH COLDER AIRMASS, WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES BY  
FRIDAY AND THE WEEKEND IN THE PLAINS AND MIDWEST AS MUCH AS 10 TO  
20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. THE COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL REACH THE  
EAST THIS WEEKEND, AND SUNDAY LOOKS TO BE NEAR OR BELOW NORMAL FOR  
ALMOST THE ENTIRE CONUS.  
 
TATE/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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