850  
FXUS02 KWBC 080726  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
225 AM EST TUE NOV 08 2022  
 
VALID 12Z FRI NOV 11 2022 - 12Z TUE NOV 15 2022  
 
...NICOLE TO IMPACT FLORIDA AND THE EAST COAST THE SECOND HALF OF  
THIS WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A DEEP CLOSED UPPER LOW WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY THE START OF THE PERIOD ON FRIDAY. THIS  
SYSTEM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT WINTER  
STORM AFFECTING PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS BUT SHOULD BE COMING  
TO AN END LARGELY BY FRIDAY. MEANWHILE, WHAT IS NOW SUBTROPICAL  
STORM NICOLE SHOULD BE STARTING TO GET PICKED UP AHEAD OF THE  
APPROACHING PLAINS TROUGH BY FRIDAY, LIKELY SPREADING HEAVY RAIN  
UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD THROUGH SATURDAY. A REBUILDING UPPER RIDGE  
OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC/NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA WILL LIKELY  
YIELD MEAN TROUGHING OVER MUCH OF CANADA INTO THE LOWER 48 BY THE  
WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK, ALONG WITH BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES  
OVER MUCH OF THE COUNTRY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THERE IS GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE OVERALL UPPER PATTERN REGARDING THE  
CLOSED LOW AND SURROUNDING TROUGHING PUSHING EAST, BUT DIFFERENCES  
IN THE DETAILS PERTAINS TO MORE NOTICEABLE CONCERNS ON EXACT LOW  
PLACEMENT BY EARLY FRIDAY ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST. THE CMC HAS  
CONSISTENTLY BEEN WEAKER AND FASTER WITH THE SURFACE LOW THROUGH  
THE UPPER MIDWEST LATE WEEK, AND WAS NOT PREFERRED IN TONIGHTS  
BLEND. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE NEW 00Z GUIDANCE ALSO TRENDED TOWARDS  
THE CMC. IT IS TOO EARLY TO TELL IF THIS IS A NEW TREND OR NOT,  
BUT IT CERTAINLY WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED.  
 
AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW A LOT OF  
UNCERTAINTY AS NICOLE ENTERS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD (LIKELY WITH  
A MORE TROPICAL CHARACTER BY THIS POINT), WITH A NOTABLE TREND  
WEST AND SOMEWHAT FASTER COMPARED TO PRIOR RUNS (AND ESPECIALLY  
WITH THE NEW 00Z GUIDANCE NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF FORECAST  
GENERATION). THERE IS GOOD AGREEMENT THIS SYSTEM WILL GET SWEPT UP  
BY THE TROUGH FROM THE PLAINS, BUT A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY STILL ON  
TIMING. MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE IS SUGGESTING A QUICKER TRANSITION UP  
THE EAST COAST, AND THE PREVIOUSLY MUCH SLOWER 18Z/NOV 7TH GFS HAS  
TRENDED FASTER WITH ITS 00Z RUN AND CLOSER TO THE CONSENSUS. THE  
WPC QPF FOR FRIDAY STUCK PRETTY CLOSE TO THE NBM CONSISTENT WITH  
THE LATEST 03Z ADVISORY POINTS FROM NHC.  
 
OUT WEST, MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS CONTINUE TO BE ALL OVER THE  
PLACE FOR EXACTLY HOW INITIAL EASTERN PACIFIC SHORTWAVE ENERGY MAY  
SPLIT TO PRODUCE ONE OR MORE PACIFIC UPPER LOWS/SHORTWAVES (WHICH  
MAY OR MAY NOT REACH THE WEST COAST), WITH THE REST OF THE ENERGY  
ROUNDING A LARGER SCALE MEAN RIDGE AND DROPPING INTO SOUTHERN  
CANADA AND THE LOWER 48. THERE MAY ALSO BE A SOUTHERN STREAM THAT  
CARRIES SHORTWAVE ENERGY ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND FAR  
SOUTHERN TIER U.S.. CONFIDENCE IS VERY LOW IN THE DETAILS OUT WEST  
BEYOND AS EARLY AS DAY 4. GIVEN THESE UNCERTAINTIES, THE WPC  
FORECAST TRENDED VERY QUICKLY TOWARDS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS THE  
SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD TO HELP MITIGATE THE DIFFERENCES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE SIGNIFICANT SNOWSTORM LIKELY TO ACCOMPANY THE DEEPENING  
SURFACE LOW INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL LARGELY BE COMING TO AN  
END BY EARLY FRIDAY. THE EXCEPTION TO THIS COULD BE SOME LINGERING  
MODEST ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND THE UPPER  
PENINSULA OF MICHIGAN ON FRIDAY INTO EARLY SATURDAY.  
 
THE GREATEST THREAT NOW FOR THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BE NICOLE  
AS IT TRACKS QUICKLY UP THE EAST COAST THROUGH SATURDAY. COASTAL  
AND MARITIME IMPACTS THAT INCLUDE COASTAL FLOODING, TROPICAL STORM  
FORCE WINDS, HEAVY RAINFALL, ROUGH SURF, AND BEACH EROSION ARE  
POSSIBLE ASSOCIATED WITH NICOLE NEAR/OVER FLORIDA AND THE  
SOUTHEAST. MOISTURE FROM THIS SYSTEM SHOULD MOVE UP MUCH OF THE  
EAST COAST INTO THE WEEKEND THOUGH WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY IN THE  
AMOUNTS AND COVERAGE. AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT WILL LIKELY HELP  
TO PROVIDE SOME FOCUSED ENHANCEMENT OF RAINFALL AS WELL. GIVEN  
TRENDS IN THE GUIDANCE, THE DAY 4 EXPERIMENTAL ERO MADE A  
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS YESTERDAYS DAY 5, WITH A LARGE  
SLIGHT RISK NOW INTO MUCH OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST. NOTE  
THAT THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY THE EASTERN/WESTERN FRINGES, REMAINS  
HIGHLY UNCERTAIN STILL AND THESE AREAS MAY HAVE TO SHIFT OR BE  
UPGRADED IN FUTURE FORECASTS DEPENDING ON RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND THE  
TRACK OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM.  
 
EXPECT MUCH OF THE WEST/ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO SEE  
BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK. THE  
COLDEST AIR WILL LIKELY BE ACROSS THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS AND  
PLAINS FRIDAY-SUNDAY WITH HIGHS IN THAT AREA UP TO 20-30F BELOW  
NORMAL. SOME LOCATIONS IN THE GREAT BASIN MAY SEE SIMILAR  
ANOMALIES MAINLY ON FRIDAY. IN CONTRAST, WELL ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN PLACE ALONG THE EAST COAST FRIDAY ALTHOUGH  
A STRONG COLD FRONT CROSSING THROUGH THIS REGION LATE THIS WEEK  
WILL USHER IN A MUCH COLDER AIRMASS THIS WEEKEND. HIGH  
TEMPERATURES FROM THE MIDWEST TO PARTS OF THE INTERIOR  
MID-ATLANTIC COULD BE AS MUCH AS 10 TO 20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL.  
THE COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL ALSO REACH THE EAST COAST THIS  
WEEKEND, AND SUNDAY-TUESDAY LOOK TO BE NEAR OR BELOW NORMAL FOR  
ALMOST THE ENTIRE CONUS.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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