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FXUS02 KWBC 091858  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
157 PM EST WED NOV 09 2022  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 12 2022 - 12Z WED NOV 16 2022  
 
...HEAVY RAINS FROM NICOLE MAY CONTINUE ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
NORTHEAST INTO SATURDAY...  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
WHAT IS LEFT OF NICOLE BY THE START OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD  
SHOULD GET PICKED UP BY AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH MOVING IN FROM  
THE MIDWEST. THIS SHOULD HELP TO LIFT THE HEAVY RAINFALL FROM  
NICOLE AWAY FROM THE CONUS BY SATURDAY, ASIDE FROM PERHAPS SOME  
LINGERING HEAVY RAIN OVER THE NORTHEAST. OTHERWISE THE LARGE SCALE  
PATTERN WILL FEATURE AN AMPLIFYING UPPER RIDGE OVER THE NORTHEAST  
PACIFIC/NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA, PROMOTING BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW  
AND BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER MUCH OF THE LOWER 48 THROUGH AT  
LEAST THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. CONFIDENCE IN EMBEDDED DETAILS IS  
STILL ON THE LOWER SIDE, WITH PARTICULAR FOCUS ON AN UPPER  
SHORTWAVE/SURFACE SYSTEM THAT COULD SPREAD PRECIPITATION OF  
VARYING TYPES OVER PARTS OF THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. IN THE  
EARLY-MID WEEK TIME FRAME.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THE GUIDANCE STILL SHOWS GOOD AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE BUT LOCALLY  
MEANINGFUL DETAIL DIFFERENCES FOR THE EVENTUAL ABSORPTION OF  
NICOLE BY THE APPROACHING TROUGH/SURFACE FRONT BY THE START OF THE  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD ON SATURDAY. BEHIND THE SUPPORTING TROUGH  
CROSSING THE EAST, MODELS AND ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO VARY FOR  
INDIVIDUAL FEATURES WITHIN THE OVERALL CYCLONIC FLOW COVERING MUCH  
OF THE THE LOWER 48 AND SOUTHERN CANADA. AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT  
THOUGH, MOST OF THE 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE DEVELOPED SOME DEGREE OF  
CLUSTERING. CURRENTLY THE PRIMARY FEATURES OF NOTE SHOULD BE AN  
UPPER LOW MOVING INTO OREGON/NEVADA AND SHORTWAVE DROPPING INTO  
THE NORTHERN TIER DURING THE WEEKEND. BY MONDAY-WEDNESDAY UPSTREAM  
FLOW MAY FEED INTO THE NORTHERN TROUGH AND SPLITTING PACIFIC  
ENERGY MAY DROP INTO THE NORTHWEST, SINKING SOUTHWARD WITH TIME.  
MEANWHILE THE MAJORITY CLUSTER SHOWS THE INITIAL WESTERN UPPER LOW  
CROSSING THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AROUND EARLY MONDAY AND THEN OPENING  
UP AS IT ACCELERATES TO THE EAST-NORTHEAST. GFS RUNS HAVE BEEN  
WAFFLING WITH RESPECT TO HOW MUCH PHASING MAY OCCUR BETWEEN THE  
NORTHERN TIER TROUGH AND EJECTING SOUTHERN FEATURE, WITH 00Z/12Z  
RUNS MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THAT REGARD (AND MORE INLAND AT THE  
SURFACE) THAN THE 06Z RUN THAT COMPARED BETTER TO THE 00Z  
ECMWF/CMC AS WELL AS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS (WITH EARLY DAY 7  
WEDNESDAY SURFACE LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE EAST COAST). THIS MAJORITY  
CLUSTER ALSO COMPARED REASONABLY WELL FOR THE ELONGATED TROUGH  
FORECAST TO DROP THROUGH THE WEST NEXT WEEK. NOT SURPRISINGLY, NEW  
12Z RUNS SHOW SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES/CHANGES FOR BOTH THE  
WESTERN ENERGY AND EVOLUTION OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY.  
THIS INCLUDES THE ECMWF SHIFTING TO A MORE PHASED SOLUTION EAST OF  
THE ROCKIES NEXT WEEK.  
 
BASED ON THE 00Z/06Z ARRAY OF GUIDANCE, THE UPDATED FORECAST  
EMPLOYED A BLEND OF THE 06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF AND LESSER INPUT OF THE  
00Z CMC/UKMET THROUGH ABOUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD AND THEN  
INCORPORATED SOME OF THE 06Z GEFS/00Z ECMWF MEANS. THE REFINEMENT  
OF SHORTWAVE DETAILS HAS YIELDED SOME NOTICEABLE CONTINUITY  
CHANGES, INCLUDING BETTER DEFINITION OF WAVINESS ALONG THE  
GULF/EAST COAST REGIONS LATE IN THE PERIOD (WHICH STILL HAS  
POTENTIAL TO BE STRONGER AND MORE INLAND).  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS  
 
HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE NORTHEAST ASSOCIATED WITH NICOLE SHOULD  
BE IN THE PROCESS OF LIFTING OUT DURING THE DAY SATURDAY. THE  
TRAILING UPPER TROUGH CROSSING THE EAST ALONG WITH COOL LOW LEVEL  
CYCLONIC FLOW WILL SUPPORT SOME LAKE EFFECT SNOW WITHIN THE  
TYPICAL SNOW BELTS OVER THE UPPER AND LOWER GREAT LAKES, MAINLY  
DURING THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE WEST MAY SEE SOME  
LIGHT PRECIPITATION ACCOMPANYING THE UPPER LOW EXPECTED TO TRACK  
FROM OREGON SOUTHEASTWARD THIS WEEKEND. LATEST CONSENSUS IS  
MAINTAINING STRONGER DEFINITION OF THIS FEATURE AS IT OPENS AND  
CONTINUES EAST-NORTHEAST FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES EARLY-MID WEEK,  
LEADING TO MORE SURFACE WAVINESS FROM THE GULF COAST TO EAST  
COAST. THIS YIELDS BROADER COVERAGE OF PRECIPITATION FROM THE  
SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS THROUGH THE EAST. RAIN COULD BE  
LOCALLY HEAVY ALONG THE GULF COAST AND IT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR  
SOME WINTRY PRECIPITATION TO EXIST IN THE NORTHERN FRINGE OF THE  
MOISTURE SHIELD. IT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESOLVE IMPORTANT  
SYSTEM DETAILS THAT WILL DETERMINE THE COVERAGE/INTENSITY/TYPE OF  
PRECIPITATION.  
 
BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALREADY IN PLACE TO THE WEST OF THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER AS OF EARLY SATURDAY WILL EXTEND THROUGH THE  
EAST DURING THE WEEKEND. BROAD UPPER TROUGHING IN RESPONSE TO THE  
STRONG RIDGE OFFSHORE THE WEST COAST SHOULD KEEP THE COLD PATTERN  
IN PLACE THROUGH MIDWEEK, AND LIKELY BEYOND PER THE CLIMATE  
PREDICTION CENTER WEEK 2 FORECAST. THE COLDEST AIR SHOULD BE OVER  
PARTS OF MONTANA AND THE DAKOTAS SATURDAY-MONDAY WITH SOME  
READINGS AT LEAST 20-30F BELOW NORMAL, INCLUDING LOCALLY SUBZERO  
MORNING LOWS. SOME OF THE COLD AIR WILL PUSH INTO THE  
CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS BY MONDAY-WEDNESDAY, BRINGING HIGHS DOWN  
TO 15-20F OR SO BELOW NORMAL. COLDEST ANOMALIES OVER THE WEST  
SHOULD TEND TO BE OVER THE GREAT BASIN WITH MULTIPLE DAYS OF HIGHS  
10-25F BELOW NORMAL. ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALONG THE IMMEDIATE  
EAST COAST ON SATURDAY SHOULD QUICKLY GIVE WAY TO HIGHS 5-15F  
BELOW NORMAL OVER MUCH OF THE EAST THEREAFTER. MAINE AND FLORIDA  
COULD BE EXCEPTIONS WITH NEAR TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES.  
 
RAUSCH/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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