841  
FXUS02 KWBC 201900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 PM EST SUN NOV 20 2022  
 
VALID 12Z WED NOV 23 2022 - 12Z SUN NOV 27 2022  
 
...A COUPLE OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS INCLUDING A POSSIBLE  
NOR'EASTER COULD CAUSE MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION ACROSS EASTERN  
PARTS OF THE U.S. LATE THIS WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A QUASI-ZONAL UPPER PATTERN WITH EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES EXPECTED TO  
BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE LOWER 48 AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD STARTS  
EARLY WEDNESDAY SHOULD QUICKLY AMPLIFY THEREAFTER. THIS TRANSITION  
WILL INVOLVE AN EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH HELPING TO BUILD AN UPPER  
RIDGE INTO THE WEST AND DIGGING OF DOWNSTREAM ENERGY INTO A  
CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. TROUGH BY THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK.  
HOWEVER THERE HAS BEEN A DISCONCERTING LEVEL OF GUIDANCE SPREAD  
AND RUN-TO-RUN VARIABILITY FOR THE ULTIMATE EVOLUTION OF INITIAL  
PACIFIC TROUGH ENERGY, HOW QUICKLY THE WESTERN U.S. RIDGE ERODES,  
AND WHAT BECOMES OF THE AMPLIFYING CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. TROUGH. A  
FAIR MAJORITY OF MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO ADVERTISE A  
LARGE-SCALE UPPER TROUGH TRACKING EAST/NORTHEAST THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND, SUPPORTING A CENTRAL-EASTERN U.S. FRONTAL SYSTEM  
(ANCHORED BY LOW PRESSURE THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN CANADA  
AND THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY) AND A SEPARATE EAST COAST SYSTEM  
LIFTING NORTHWARD. THIS PATTERN WOULD LEAD TO INCREASING CHANCES  
FOR PRECIPITATION LATE THIS WEEK FOR THE EAST AND A POTENTIALLY  
STRONG STORM AFFECTING NEW ENGLAND DURING THE WEEKEND. ON THE  
OTHER HAND, THERE IS A PERSISTENT MINORITY SCENARIO THAT WOULD  
HAVE AN UPPER LOW CLOSE OFF OVER NORTHERN MEXICO OR THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS, LEADING TO A SLOWER/SOUTHERN AREA OF SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL  
AND LESS PRECIPITATION/SURFACE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NORTHEAST.  
MEANWHILE THE DIFFERENCES/ADJUSTMENTS WITH PACIFIC TROUGH ENERGY  
HAVE BEEN LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY OVER THE COVERAGE,  
INTENSITY, AND DURATION FOR PACIFIC NORTHWEST PRECIPITATION AS  
WELL.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
IF ANYTHING, LATEST GUIDANCE HAS ADDED MORE UNCERTAINTY TO THE  
FORECAST. THERE HAS BEEN A NOTICEABLE TREND TOWARD MORE CLUSTERING  
FOR SOME DEGREE OF SEPARATION FOR INITIAL PACIFIC TROUGH ENERGY,  
WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM PORTION OF THIS FLOW ULTIMATELY SERVING  
TO FLATTEN THE WESTERN RIDGE MORE QUICKLY BY THE WEEKEND VERSUS  
PRIOR CONSENSUS--YIELDING NEARLY ZONAL MEAN FLOW ONCE AGAIN BY  
LATE IN THE WEEKEND INSTEAD OF MORE PERSISTENT RIDGING OVER THE  
WEST-CENTRAL STATES. AT THE SAME TIME THERE IS STILL A LOT OF  
SPREAD AND VARIABILITY FOR HOW THE LOWER 48 TROUGH WILL EVOLVE  
FROM MIDWEEK ONWARD. 00Z/06Z GFS RUNS CONTINUED THE THEME BACK TO  
THE 12Z/19 RUN OF PULLING AN UPPER LOW DOWN THROUGH THE  
ROCKIES/NORTHERN MEXICO/SOUTHERN PLAINS REGION BUT THE 12Z RUN HAS  
REVERTED TO A MORE PROGRESSIVE TROUGH WITH AN UPPER LOW TRACKING  
ACROSS THE MID-LATITUDES OF THE EAST AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER  
OF NEW ENGLAND (ESSENTIALLY A SLOWER VERSION OF THE 12Z CMC).  
SHORTWAVE DIFFERENCES WITH THE GFS IN PARTICULAR ACTUALLY TRACE  
BACK TO THE PACIFIC IN THE SHORT RANGE. ECMWF/CMC RUNS THAT HAVE  
BEEN PART OF THE MAJORITY CLUSTER WITH THE MEANS HAVE TRENDED  
NORTHWARD WITH THE SURFACE LOW ANCHORING THE INITIAL CENTRAL U.S.  
FRONT (BUT THE 12Z ECMWF HAS COME BACK TO THE SOUTH) WHILE  
MAINTAINING THE IDEA OF A LEADING EAST COAST DEVELOPMENT THAT  
COULD ULTIMATELY BECOME FAIRLY STRONG BY THE TIME IT REACHES NEW  
ENGLAND. ENSEMBLE MEMBERS OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. BY THE LATTER HALF  
OF THE WEEK HAVE ACTUALLY DIVERGED OVER THE PAST DAY. A HIGHER  
PERCENTAGE OF GEFS MEMBERS DEPICTED SOME VARIATION OF THE 00Z/06Z  
GFS IDEA VERSUS 24 HOURS AGO, WHILE THE MINORITY OF ECENS MEMBERS  
PULLING THE UPPER TROUGH FARTHER WEST/SOUTHWEST YESTERDAY HAS  
DWINDLED TO ONLY ONE MEMBER (AND THAT ONE ONLY MATCHING WITH THE  
UKMET VERSUS THE FARTHER SOUTHWEST 00Z/06Z GFS).  
 
BASED ON THE GUIDANCE AVAILABLE FROM THE 00Z/06Z CYCLES, THE  
UPDATED FORECAST REPRESENTED VARIOUS IDEAS FROM CONTINUITY AND  
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES INTRODUCED BY A MAJORITY OF GUIDANCE. AN  
OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE BLEND EARLY (QUICKLY SPLITTING GFS INPUT WITH  
THE 06Z GEFS MEAN) FOLLOWED BY A TRANSITION TO THE GEFS/ECMWF  
MEANS AND 00Z ECMWF/CMC ALLOWED FOR RELATIVE CONSISTENCY FOR THE  
POTENTIAL SYSTEM ALONG THE EAST COAST, THOUGH REFLECTING THE  
MAJORITY CLUSTER THAT TRENDED NORTHWARD FOR THE SURFACE LOW  
ANCHORING THE INITIAL CENTRAL U.S. FRONTAL SYSTEM. GEFS MEAN  
INCLUSION PROVIDED A MODEST NUDGE TOWARD THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME  
ENERGY HANGING BACK IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM (WHICH COULD BE FROM A  
COMBINATION OF INITIAL ENERGY NEAR BAJA CALIFORNIA AND ANY FLOW  
FROM THE NORTHERN STREAM). MEANWHILE THE BLEND REFLECTS CONSENSUS  
TRENDS TOWARD FLATTER MEAN FLOW BY NEXT WEEKEND, WITH MORE  
PRECIPITATION REACHING THE NORTHWEST U.S.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS  
 
WEDNESDAY IS LIKELY TO BE FAIRLY DRY ACROSS THE LOWER 48, THOUGH  
WITH PERHAPS SOME SHOWERS ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE SOUTHEASTERN  
ATLANTIC COAST AS WELL AS PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, PLUS A FEW  
RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS IN NORTHERN PARTS OF THE ROCKIES AND PLAINS.  
THEN AS THE UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFIES EAST OF THE ROCKIES BY  
THANKSGIVING DAY AND BEYOND, GULF MOISTURE SHOULD STREAM INTO THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE U.S. AHEAD OF THE TROUGH. THE SOUTHEASTERN  
QUADRANT OF THE U.S. NORTHWARD INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND GREAT  
LAKES MAY SEE SOME PRECIPITATION AROUND THANKSGIVING, WHILE  
HEAVIER PRECIPITATION LOOKS MORE LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN  
U.S. ON FRIDAY. CURRENT FORECASTS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THAT WINTRY  
PRECIPITATION IS A BETTER POSSIBILITY FOR THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST  
WHILE THE METROPOLITAN AREAS ALONG THE I-95 CORRIDOR ARE MORE  
LIKELY TO GET RAIN. BUT STAY TUNED TO FUTURE FORECASTS AS THESE  
UNCERTAIN DETAILS LIKE PRECIPITATION TYPES IN PARTICULAR AREAS  
COULD CHANGE AS MODEL GUIDANCE EVENTUALLY COMES INTO BETTER  
CONSENSUS WITH LOW TRACKS AND TEMPERATURES. DEPENDING ON THE  
STRENGTH OF ONE OR MORE LOW PRESSURE CENTERS, WINDS COULD BECOME  
BRISK TO STRONG FOR A TIME. ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS STILL A  
MINORITY POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT PRECIPITATION  
COVERAGE AND AMOUNTS, WHICH COULD INVOLVE MORE RAINFALL ACROSS THE  
SOUTHERN TIER AND LOWER TOTALS (WITH WEAKER/MORE OFFSHORE LOW  
PRESSURE) FARTHER NORTH. THEN BY NEXT WEEKEND, LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS  
ONCE AGAIN A POSSIBILITY BEHIND THE UPPER TROUGH. THE NORTHWEST  
MAY SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF DRY WEATHER BUT MOISTURE COULD RETURN  
INTO WESTERN WASHINGTON AS SOON AS THANKSGIVING DAY, WITH A SERIES  
OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS SPREADING RAIN AND HIGH ELEVATION SNOW ACROSS  
MORE OF THE NORTHWEST AND EVENTUALLY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH  
THE END OF THE WEEK AND NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
TEMPERATURES IN THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD SHOULD BE OVERALL MORE  
SEASONABLE COMPARED TO THOSE OF LAST WEEK. TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY  
TO TREND ABOVE AVERAGE ALONG THE WEST COAST BY MIDWEEK WITH PLUS  
5-15F ANOMALIES EXPANDING INTO THE ROCKIES AND CENTRAL U.S. LATER  
IN THE WEEK AS THE UPPER RIDGE BUILDS IN. WESTERN U.S.  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD TREND BACK TOWARD NORMAL BY NEXT SUNDAY GIVEN  
THE LATEST FORECAST OF UPPER FLOW BECOMING MORE ZONAL. CONVERSELY,  
POST-FRONTAL COOLER TEMPERATURES ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF HIGHS  
SHOULD EXTEND FROM THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TOWARD THE EAST COAST  
FRIDAY-SUNDAY AS THE UPPER TROUGH IS LIKELY TO MOVE THROUGH.  
ANOMALIES WILL DEPEND UPON THE DETAILS OF THE EASTERN U.S. UPPER  
TROUGH AND POTENTIAL EAST COAST SYSTEM, WHICH ARE STILL QUITE  
UNCERTAIN.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 
 
 
 
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