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FXUS02 KWBC 212031  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
331 PM EST MON NOV 21 2022  
 
VALID 12Z THU NOV 24 2022 - 12Z MON NOV 28 2022  
 
...A COUPLE OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS INCLUDING A POSSIBLE  
NOR'EASTER COULD CAUSE MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION ACROSS  
CENTRAL/EASTERN PARTS OF THE U.S. LATE THIS WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE START OF THE EXTENDED PERIOD WILL HAVE AN AMPLIFIED UPPER  
PATTERN ACROSS CONTIGUOUS STATES WITH A RIDGE ATOP THE WEST AND A  
DEEPENING TROUGH ACROSS CENTRAL PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. ALTHOUGH  
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MODEL SPREAD WITH HOW THIS TROUGH  
DEVELOPS AND HOW FAST IT TRACKS TO THE EAST, IT WILL HAVE THE  
POTENTIAL TO SPREAD MODEST TO POSSIBLY HEAVY PRECIPITATION WITH IT  
FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS POSSIBLY TO THE NORTH EAST. WPC HAS BEEN  
FAVORING A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING EAST ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES OR NEARBY WITH A COLD FRONT PASSING ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL-EASTERN U.S. AND PHASING WITH ANOTHER LOW TRACKING  
NORTHWARD NEAR THE ATLANTIC COAST, LEADING TO A POTENTIALLY STRONG  
STORM AFFECTING NEW ENGLAND DURING THE WEEKEND. HOWEVER, THERE IS  
THE POSSIBILITY FOR A SLOWER/SOUTHERN AREA OF SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL  
AND LESS PRECIPITATION/SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NORTHEAST.  
BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE UPPER PATTERN IS LIKELY TO TRANSITION TO  
MORE ZONAL FLOW, BUT WITH EVENTUAL TROUGHING AND FRONTS COMING  
INTO THE NORTHWEST PROMOTING INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES  
THERE.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE LATEST GUIDANCE CONTINUE TO SHOW AN UPPER LOW DEVELOP AND  
CLOSE OFF EARLY IN THE EXTEND PERIOD AND WILL TRACK EAST/NORTHEAST  
UNTIL THE END OF THE FORECAST EARLY NEXT WEEK. THERE IS A VERY  
SIGNIFICANT DEGREE OF SPREAD WITH THIS LOW FEATURE WHICH YIELDS A  
LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST IN TERMS OF THE DETAILS/SPECIFICS WITH  
EACH FEATURE. THE ECWMF IS THE MOST PROGRESSIVE OF THE GLOBAL. IT  
CLOSES OFF THE UPPER LOW OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. AND KEEP TRACKING  
NORTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND THE NORTHEAST. THIS PLACES  
THE QPF FOOTPRINT OVER THE EASTERN GULF STATES AND MAINLY EAST OF  
THE APPALACHIANS, ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A COAST SYSTEM. THE  
CMC IS THE FIRST TO CLOSE OFF THE UPPER LOW AND FAVOR A  
SLOWER/DEEPER PROGRESSION ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND INTO THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS. THE GFS IS ABOUT 6 HOURS BEHIND THE CMC BUT  
FAVORS A SIMILAR TREND TO THE CMC. THE UKMET DEPICTS A CLOSED OFF  
SYSTEM BUT DOES SO OVER THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS AND IS A  
LITTLE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN THE CMC/GFS SOLUTIONS. THIS DEGREE OF  
SPREAD EITHER HAS LITTLE TO NOR PRECIPITATION OVER TEXAS/WESTERN  
GULF WITH ALL OF THE QPF SPANNING FROM THE EASTERN GULF  
STATES/SOUTHEAST AND UP THE EAST COAST PER THE ECWMF. OR,  
SCATTERED TO WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION OVER PORTIONS OF THE  
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS, GULF COAST AND INTO THE  
MISSISSIPPI/TENNESSEE VALLEYS PER THE CMC/GFS AND SOMEWHAT PER THE  
UKMET.  
 
BOTH TYPES OF SCENARIOS CAN AND DO HAPPEN DOWNSTREAM OF RIDGING SO  
THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN WHICH TO CHOOSE. AT THE SURFACE, THERE  
HAS BEEN SOME WAFFLING WITH THE PLACEMENT OF LOWS AS WELL OF  
COURSE, INITIALLY WITH A GREAT LAKES OR SOUTHERN CANADA LOW THAT  
OVERALL SEEMED TO BOUNCE BACK SOUTH. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST LEANED  
TOWARD THE ECMWF-LED PHASED TROUGH SOLUTION YIELDING A POSSIBLY  
DEEP SURFACE LOW IN THE NORTHEAST. HOWEVER THE 00Z RUN SEEMS TO BE  
MORE OF THE OUTLIER SOLUTION GIVEN THE THE GFS IS FAVORING A  
SIMILAR TRACK AS THE CMC AND THE UKMET IS CLOSER TO THOSE TWO  
WITHIN THE CLUSTER THAN IT IS TO THE ECWMF. THE 12Z RUN OF THE  
ECWMF HAS STARTED TO TREND TOWARD HAVING A CLOSED LOW IN THE  
VICINITY OF WEST TEXAS AND NOT AS PROGRESSIVE OF AN EVOLUTION. SO,  
ALL IN ALL, THIS PACKAGE DOES BREAK FROM WPC CONTINUITY BY  
UTILIZING MORE OF THE GFS AND CMC DURING THE EARLY AND MIDDLE  
PERIODS. THE MODEL BLEND WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE 00Z  
ECWMF/CMC,UKMET, 00Z/06Z GFS AND THE GEFS AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
FOR QPF, BLENDED IN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF THE CMC, GFS WITH  
LIGHTER WEIGHTING OF ECMWF. AFTER THAT BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE  
OVERALL PATTERN IS LIKELY TO FLATTEN BUT WITH SOME EMBEDDED  
SHORTWAVES, AND MORE LONGWAVE RIDGING SHOULD COME INTO THE  
NORTHWEST AROUND DAY 7/MONDAY.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
AS THE UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFIES EAST OF THE ROCKIES BY THANKSGIVING  
DAY AND BEYOND, GULF MOISTURE SHOULD STREAM INTO THE EASTERN HALF  
OF THE U.S. AHEAD OF THE TROUGH. THE SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE  
U.S. NORTHWARD INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES MAY SEE SOME  
PRECIPITATION AROUND THANKSGIVING, WHILE HEAVIER PRECIPITATION  
LOOKS MORE LIKELY ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO THE  
MID-ATLANTIC ON FRIDAY. CURRENT FORECASTS CONTINUE TO INDICATE  
THAT WINTRY PRECIPITATION IS A BETTER POSSIBILITY FOR THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST WHILE THE METROPOLITAN AREAS ALONG THE I-95 CORRIDOR ARE  
MORE LIKELY TO GET RAIN. BUT STAY TUNED TO FUTURE FORECASTS AS  
THESE UNCERTAIN DETAILS LIKE PRECIPITATION TYPES IN PARTICULAR  
AREAS COULD CHANGE AS MODEL GUIDANCE EVENTUALLY COMES INTO BETTER  
CONSENSUS WITH LOW TRACKS AND TEMPERATURES. DEPENDING ON THE  
STRENGTH OF ONE OR MORE LOW PRESSURE CENTERS, WINDS COULD BECOME  
BRISK TO STRONG FOR A TIME. ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS STILL  
POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT PRECIPITATION COVERAGE AND  
AMOUNTS, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE MORE RAINFALL ACROSS THE SOUTHERN  
TIER FROM TEXAS ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND SOUTHEAST,  
AND LOWER TOTALS (WITH WEAKER/MORE OFFSHORE LOW PRESSURE) FARTHER  
NORTH.  
 
THEN BY NEXT WEEKEND, LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS ONCE AGAIN A POSSIBILITY  
BEHIND THE UPPER TROUGH. THE NORTHWEST MAY SEE A BRIEF PERIOD OF  
DRY WEATHER BUT MOISTURE COULD RETURN INTO WESTERN WASHINGTON AS  
SOON AS THANKSGIVING DAY, WITH A SERIES OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS  
SPREADING RAIN AND HIGH ELEVATION SNOW ACROSS MORE OF THE  
NORTHWEST AND EVENTUALLY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE WEEKEND,  
WITH EXPANDING COVERAGE INTO THE GREAT BASIN/ROCKIES EARLY NEXT  
WEEK.  
 
TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO TREND ABOVE AVERAGE ALONG THE WEST  
COAST BY THURSDAY WITH PLUS 5-15F ANOMALIES EXPANDING INTO THE  
ROCKIES AND CENTRAL U.S. LATER IN THE WEEK AS THE UPPER RIDGE  
BUILDS IN. WESTERN U.S. TEMPERATURES SHOULD TREND BACK TOWARD  
NORMAL AND PERHAPS BELOW AVERAGE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK GIVEN THE  
LATEST FORECAST OF UPPER FLOW BECOMING MORE ZONAL AND EVENTUALLY  
SWITCHING TO A TROUGH PATTERN. FARTHER EAST, POST-FRONTAL COOLER  
TEMPERATURES ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF HIGHS SHOULD EXTEND FROM THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TOWARD THE EAST COAST FRIDAY-SATURDAY AS THE  
UPPER TROUGH IS LIKELY TO MOVE THROUGH. ANOMALIES WILL DEPEND UPON  
THE DETAILS OF THE EASTERN U.S. UPPER TROUGH AND POTENTIAL EAST  
COAST SYSTEM, WHICH ARE STILL QUITE UNCERTAIN.  
 
CAMPBELL/TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
HAZARDS:  
- HEAVY PRECIPITATION ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND  
THE NORTHERN GREAT BASIN, SAT-SUN, NOV 26-NOV 27.  
- HEAVY PRECIPITATION ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GREAT BASIN,  
CALIFORNIA, AND THE SOUTHWEST, MON, NOV 28.  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, SAT-SUN,  
NOV 26-NOV 27.  
- HEAVY RAIN ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE  
TENNESSEE VALLEY, THE MID-ATLANTIC, THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS, THE  
SOUTHEAST, AND THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, THU-FRI, NOV 24-NOV 25.  
- HEAVY SNOW ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, THU-FRI, NOV  
24-NOV 25.  
- FLOODING POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST.  
- FLOODING OCCURRING OR IMMINENT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST.  
- HEAVY PRECIPITATION ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE ALASKA PANHANDLE,  
THU-FRI, NOV 24-NOV 25.  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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