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FXUS02 KWBC 220700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST TUE NOV 22 2022  
 
VALID 12Z FRI NOV 25 2022 - 12Z TUE NOV 29 2022  
 
...MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN  
U.S. LATE THIS WEEK AND POTENTIALLY INTO THE NORTHEAST EARLY NEXT  
WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
FORTUNATELY, MODEL GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH  
THE OVERALL PATTERN ACROSS THE COUNTRY LATE THIS WEEK INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK. UNFORTUNATELY, MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD THE SOLUTION  
THAT HAS NOT BEEN FAVORED IN THE WPC FORECAST OVER THE LAST FEW  
DAYS SINCE THIS PATTERN WAS FORMERLY IN THE MINORITY. THE NEW  
MODEL GUIDANCE AND THE WPC FORECAST INDICATE THAT A CLOSED UPPER  
LOW WILL TRACK ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. ALONG WITH A  
DEVELOPING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM FOR FRIDAY-SATURDAY. THIS  
SHOULD LEAD TO WIDESPREAD RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF  
THE PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND FARTHER EAST INTO THE  
SOUTHEAST, OHIO AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS, AND THE EAST COAST FOR LATE  
WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND. THERE IS SOME CHANCE OF SNOW ON THE  
BACKSIDE OF THE CLOSED LOW IN THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS ON FRIDAY.  
BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE UPPER PATTERN IS LIKELY TO TRANSITION TO  
MORE ZONAL FLOW, BUT WITH TROUGHING AND FRONTS COMING INTO THE  
NORTHWEST PROMOTING INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE  
WEST COAST INTO THE GREAT BASIN AND ROCKIES SUNDAY-TUESDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
IT HAS BEEN QUITE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DETERMINISTIC FORECAST THE  
PAST FEW DAYS GIVEN THE MODEL SPREAD AND NO NOTABLE MIDDLE GROUND  
TYPE SOLUTIONS BETWEEN A CLUSTER OF MODELS LED BY THE ECMWF AND EC  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS THAT SHOWED A PHASED UPPER TROUGH MARCHING  
THROUGH THE CENTRAL-EASTERN U.S. ALONG WITH A STRENGTHENING  
NORTHEAST SURFACE LOW AROUND THE THURSDAY-SATURDAY TIMEFRAME, AND  
ONE LED BY THE GFS/SOME GEFS MEMBERS/UKMET THAT SPILLED ENERGY  
INTO THE SOUTHERN STREAM ENOUGH TO CREATE A CLOSED UPPER LOW OVER  
TEXAS OR SO WITH A SLOWER TRACK. THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES  
SEEMED TO ARISE FROM ENERGY IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC HANDLED  
DIFFERENTLY BY EACH MODEL. THE WPC FORECAST HAD BEEN LEANING  
TOWARD THE FORMER CLUSTER WHICH HAD FIT CONTINUITY BETTER.  
HOWEVER, NOW PRETTY MUCH ALL THE GUIDANCE HAS TRENDED TOWARD THE  
SLOW SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW TYPE OF SOLUTION. THERE STILL  
REMAIN SOME WIGGLES THE PLACEMENT OF THE UPPER LOW FROM MODEL TO  
MODEL AND RUN TO RUN, BUT THERE IS MUCH LESS SPREAD THAN THERE HAS  
BEEN. THUS THE WPC FORECAST, AFTER A TREND IN THAT DIRECTION BY  
THE PREVIOUS SHIFT, WAS PRETTY MUCH "ALL IN" ON SHOWING A CLOSED  
LOW OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS DAY 3/FRIDAY AND A SLIGHT SHIFT  
EASTWARD DAY 4/SATURDAY. THIS AFFECTED THE FRONTAL POSITIONS AND  
QPF AND OTHER WEATHER GRIDS WITH SOME NECESSARY CHANGES TO  
CONTINUITY. THE FORECAST BLEND FOR FRONTS/PRESSURES WAS BASED ON A  
MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND OF THE 12/18Z GUIDANCE TO PROVIDE  
A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN SLIGHTLY SLOWER OR FASTER SOLUTIONS.  
 
FARTHER WEST, THERE CONTINUES TO BE A GENERAL TREND TOWARD  
TROUGHING IN THE WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK. SOME GUIDANCE LIKE THE 12Z  
ECMWF WAS AGGRESSIVE IN BRINGING IN A SHORTWAVE TO THE WESTERN  
U.S. BY SUNDAY BEFORE THE MAIN TROUGH FEATURE, AND THERE ARE  
CERTAINLY MODEL DIFFERENCES THAT BASICALLY AVERAGE OUT TO ZONAL  
FLOW, BEFORE BETTER AGREEMENT FOR TROUGHING COMING IN AROUND  
TUESDAY--THOUGH OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES IN THE  
DETAILS OF HOW FAST THE TROUGH MOVES INLAND AND ITS DEPTH ETC. THE  
WPC FORECAST UTILIZED A DETERMINISTIC MODEL AND GEFS/EC ENSEMBLE  
MEAN BLEND (JUST OVER HALF ENSEMBLE MEANS) FOR THE LATTER PART OF  
THE PERIOD TO ALLEVIATE THESE DIFFERENCES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
AHEAD OF THE CLOSED UPPER LOW IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND A COUPLE  
OF LOW PRESSURE/FRONTAL SYSTEMS, GULF MOISTURE IS LIKELY TO STREAM  
INTO CENTRAL AND EASTERN PARTS OF THE LOWER 48. PRECIPITATION IS  
EXPECTED FROM TEXAS/OKLAHOMA (WHICH COULD BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW  
FOR SOME PORTIONS) WITH RAIN AND PERHAPS SOME THUNDERSTORMS  
FARTHER EAST ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND SOUTHEAST ON  
FRIDAY. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL CAUSING ISOLATED FLASH FLOODING IS  
POSSIBLE. THE LOW IS FORECAST TO TRACK NORTHEASTWARD AND SPREAD  
PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS AS WELL ON SATURDAY, AND INTO THE EASTERN  
SEABOARD BY SUNDAY. WITH THIS LOW TRACK, MOST AREAS ARE LIKELY TO  
SEE RAIN RATHER THAN WINTRY PRECIPITATION, BUT HIGHER ELEVATIONS  
OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST COULD BE AN EXCEPTION. THERE COULD BE  
SOME LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS EARLY NEXT WEEK BEHIND THE  
UPPER TROUGH.  
 
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES CAN EXPECT SOME  
LIGHT TO MODERATE PRECIPITATION LATE THIS WEEK IN CONJUNCTION WITH  
A COUPLE OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS. AS UPPER TROUGHING SHIFTS INTO THE  
REGION, PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST TO SPREAD SOUTHWARD ACROSS  
CALIFORNIA AND INTO THE GREAT BASIN AND ROCKIES FOR EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. LOWER ELEVATION RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW WILL BE  
LIKELY.  
 
THE UPPER LOW NOW FORECAST ATOP THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. LATE WEEK  
WILL CAUSE SOME COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES THERE,  
PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF HIGHS THAT COULD BE 10-20F BELOW NORMAL  
MAINLY IN TEXAS ON FRIDAY. MEANWHILE LOWS ARE LIKELY TO BE WARMER  
THAN NORMAL FOR THE CENTRAL/EASTERN GULF COAST STATES AND  
NORTHWARD INTO THE TENNESSEE/OHIO VALLEYS FRIDAY GIVEN THE GULF  
INFLOW AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW, SHIFTING INTO THE EAST BY SUNDAY.  
SLIGHTLY MILDER THAN NORMAL HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY-SATURDAY SHOULD MODERATE TO NEAR NORMAL  
BY SUNDAY. AS UPPER TROUGHING INFLUENCES THE WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK,  
EXPANDING COVERAGE OF BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES IS LIKELY THERE,  
WHILE THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. FLIPS TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL AHEAD  
OF THE TROUGH.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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