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FXUS02 KWBC 231918  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
217 PM EST WED NOV 23 2022  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 26 2022 - 12Z WED NOV 30 2022  
 
...MEANINGFUL PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE ACROSS EASTERN PARTS OF  
THE U.S. THIS WEEKEND...  
 
...SNOW IS LIKELY ACROSS HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE WEST EARLY NEXT  
WEEK AND MAY SPREAD INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. BY  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY...  
 
...THE CHANCE FOR WIDESPREAD, POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL  
INCREASING BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK...  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BEGIN SATURDAY WITH A CLOSED UPPER  
LOW ATOP THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S., WHILE A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM SHOULD LIFT QUICKLY FROM THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY  
TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES REGION THIS WEEKEND. THIS PATTERN WILL  
PRODUCE WIDESPREAD RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST, WHERE SOME  
LOCALIZED FLOODING MAY BE POSSIBLE, AND FARTHER NORTH ACROSS THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS, SHIFTING INTO  
THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST LATER SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. SOME  
PRECIPITATION MAY FALL AS SNOW IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE  
INTERIOR NORTHEAST. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THE UPPER PATTERN LOOKS TO  
HAVE A BRIEF TRANSITION TOWARD ZONAL FLOW BEFORE TROUGHING DIGS  
INTO THE WESTERN U.S. MONDAY-TUESDAY, INCREASING PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES THERE. AS THE TROUGH SHIFTS EASTWARD, THE CURRENT FORECAST  
SHOWS A CONSOLIDATING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MAY SHIFT INTO  
THE MIDWEST FOR TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY, WITH SOME SNOW POSSIBLE NORTH  
AND WEST OF THE LOW FOR THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO MINNESOTA, AND AN  
INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAINFALL AHEAD OF A TRAILING COLD  
FRONT IN THE EAST-CENTRAL CONUS.  
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE FOCUS AT THE START OF THE FORECAST PERIOD IS ON THE PLACEMENT  
AND PROGRESSION OF THE UPPER-LEVEL CLOSED LOW OVER THE SOUTHERN  
PLAINS FORECAST TO LIFT NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE MIDWEST OVER THE  
WEEKEND. IN GENERAL, THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE IS RELATIVELY  
SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT PLACEMENT AND TREND FOR THE CLOSED  
LOW TO MOVE A BIT SLOWER THAN PRIOR FORECASTS, RESULTING IN A  
SLOWER PROGRESSION OF THE FRONTAL SYSTEM AT THE SURFACE AND  
SUBSEQUENT DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS ON PRECIPITATION COVERAGE. ONE  
NOTABLE OUTLIER WAS THE 00 GEFS MEMBERS THAT TENDED TO CLUSTER  
AROUND A MORE PROGRESSIVE SOLUTION. THERE WAS MORE UNCERTAINTY  
WITH THE PLACEMENT OF AN UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE OVER THE WESTERN U.S.,  
THOUGH THE MORE RECENT RUNS OF THE ECMWF HAVE TRENDED TOWARDS A  
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR SOLUTION TO THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z UKMET/CMC. THE  
PHASING SLIGHTLY DIFFERS BETWEEN THE GUIDANCE BUT THE FORECASTS AT  
LEAST TEND TO AGREE ON A LOWER AMPLITUDE, POSITIVELY TILTED WAVE  
OVER THE WEST. THUS, THE INITIAL WPC FORECAST CONSISTED OF A  
STRAIGHT BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE ALONG WITH THE 00Z  
ECENS MEAN TO SMOOTH OUT ANY TIMING DIFFERENCES AND COME TO A  
GENERAL CONSENSUS ON THE PLACEMENT OF THE CLOSED LOW. THE  
UNCERTAINTY INCREASES WITH THE DOWNSTREAM EVOLUTION OF THE CLOSED  
LOW, WITH THE RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY OF THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE  
IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THE PROGRESSION AND LINGERING INTENSITY OF  
THE LOW AS IT LIFTS INTO THE MIDWEST AS AN OPEN WAVE AS WELL AS  
THE SUBSEQUENT UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE PROGRESSING EASTWARD. THE ECMWF  
AND GFS HAVE GENERALLY TRENDED TOWARDS A MORE PROGRESSIVE  
SOLUTION, WHICH ALSO MATCHES THE 00Z UKMET. THE 00Z ECENS MEAN IS  
ALSO CLOSER TO THIS SOLUTION WHILE THE 00Z GEFS MEAN IS EVEN MORE  
PROGRESSIVE WITH THE LIFTING WAVE. THE 00Z CMC DIFFERS THE MOST  
WITH SPLIT NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY, SO THE FORECAST  
BLEND TRENDED THIS DOWN WITH THE OTHER GUIDANCE UP.  
 
ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO THE WEST WITH THE NEXT UPSTREAM TROUGH  
STARTING TO AMPLIFY OVER THE NORTHWEST. THE 00Z ECMWF AND 06Z GFS  
WERE RELATIVELY SIMILAR IN PHASING AND AMPLITUDE WHILE THE 00Z  
CMC/UKMET WERE LESS AMPLIFIED. THE TREND IN THE WPC FORECAST BLEND  
WAS TO DECREASE THE INFLUENCE OF THE 00Z CMC/UKMET WITH MORE  
WEIGHT GIVEN TO THE 00Z ECENS WHILE INTRODUCING 00Z GEFS MEAN AS  
IT WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER GUIDANCE COMPARED TO THE  
HANDLING OF THE CLOSED LOW EARLIER IN THE PERIOD. THE FORECAST  
GROWS MORE COMPLEX DURING THE LATTER PORTION OF THE PERIOD WITH A  
BIT OF A SPLIT IN THE ENERGY BETWEEN THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN  
STREAM OVER THE WEST. THE 06Z GFS TRENDED AWAY FROM THIS PATTERN  
WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF TRENDED TOWARDS IT, COMPLICATING THE FORECAST.  
FURTHERMORE, THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT IN THE GUIDANCE FOR THE TIMING  
AND AMPLITUDE OF THE NEXT WAVE UPSTREAM OVER THE PACIFIC AND  
MOVING TOWARDS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT  
RUN-TO-RUN UNCERTAINTY IN BOTH THE 00Z ECMWF AND 06Z GFS IN THE  
HANDLING AND PROGRESSION OF THESE FEATURES AS THE FIRST BEGINS TO  
EJECT OUT OVER THE PLAINS AND THE SECOND REACHES THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST. THE INDIVIDUAL ENSEMBLE MEMBERS IN THE 00Z GEFS AND  
ECENS SHOWED A GOOD DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE TIMING AND  
AMPLITUDE OF THE WAVES AS WELL. THE 00Z CMC WAS IN EVEN LESS  
AGREEMENT WITH THE OVERALL PATTERN, DEVELOPING MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES  
ROUNDING BROADER LARGER-SCALE TROUGHING. THEREFORE, THE LATTER  
PORTION OF THE FORECAST INCLUDED A BLEND INITIALLY EDGED SLIGHTLY  
TOWARDS THE 00Z ECMWF/06Z GFS DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE WITH AN  
INCREASE IN THE MEANS OVER THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE FOR THE END  
OF THE PERIOD. THIS HELPED TO BETTER REPRESENT THE FIRST TROUGH IN  
THE WEST INITIALLY WITHOUT GETTING TOO DETAILED IN A MORE COMPLEX  
SOLUTION GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AND FORECAST LEAD TIME, WITH THE  
GOAL OF CAPTURING THE GENERAL PHASING PATTERN OF THE WAVES  
OVERALL.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
GULF MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO STREAM INTO PARTS OF THE CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN U.S. AHEAD OF THE UPPER AND SURFACE LOWS AND PRODUCE  
WIDESPREAD RAIN CHANCES THIS WEEKEND. SOME LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL  
MAY BE POSSIBLE IN THE SOUTHEAST AND INTO THE SOUTHERN  
APPALACHIANS AND PIEDMONT ON SATURDAY, WHICH COULD CAUSE ISOLATED  
FLASH FLOODING IF RAIN RATES ARE HIGH ENOUGH. PRECIPITATION IS  
LIKELY TO SPREAD ACROSS THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS ON SATURDAY AND INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND  
NORTHEAST BY SUNDAY. THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR RAINFALL TO PROGRESS  
SLOWER AND BE A BIT HEAVIER, LINGERING INTO SUNDAY FOR THE  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS AND SOUTHEAST. WITH THIS LOW TRACK, MOST  
AREAS ARE LIKELY TO SEE RAIN RATHER THAN WINTRY PRECIPITATION, BUT  
HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST COULD BE AN EXCEPTION  
WHERE SNOW COULD FALL.  
 
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES CAN EXPECT SOME  
LIGHT TO MODERATE PRECIPITATION ON SATURDAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH A  
COUPLE OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS. PRECIPITATION IS THEN FORECAST TO  
SPREAD SOUTHWARD ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND EASTWARD INTO THE GREAT  
BASIN AND ROCKIES FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE NOTED UPPER TROUGH  
BEGINS TO DIG INTO THE REGION. LOWER ELEVATION RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW WILL BE LIKELY. WHILE THE DETAILS ARE UNCERTAIN,  
THE CHANCE FOR HEAVY SNOW HAS BEEN INCREASING ACROSS THE CASCADES  
AND INTO THE WASATCH AND ROCKIES. HEAVY SNOW IS ALSO POSSIBLE IN  
THE SIERRAS, ALTHOUGH THIS HAS TRENDED DOWNWARD COMPARED TO  
PREVIOUS FORECASTS.  
 
THE POTENTIAL FOR LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTRAL  
U.S. BY MID-WEEK NEXT WEEK IS INCREASING WHICH WOULD BRING  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S.  
WIDESPREAD, POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL LOOKS POSSIBLE ACROSS THE  
MIDWEST, OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS, AND INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY. THE POTENTIAL FOR SNOWFALL IS ALSO INCREASING ON THE  
BACKSIDE OF THE LOW AS IT TRACKS NORTHEASTWARD INTO THE MIDWEST  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY FROM EASTERN MONTANA INTO THE DAKOTAS AND  
MINNESOTA. THIS IS AT THE END OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD THOUGH SO  
THE DETAILS OF THE FORECAST MAY NEED TO CHANGE WITH TIME, SO STAY  
TUNED TO FUTURE FORECASTS.  
 
SLIGHTLY COOLER THAN NORMAL HIGHS COULD LINGER IN THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. THIS WEEKEND BEHIND THE INITIAL UPPER LOW,  
WHILE MILDER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF  
LOWS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE EAST. BUT MORE WIDESPREAD COOLER THAN  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO EXPAND ACROSS THE WESTERN HALF  
OF THE U.S. MONDAY-WEDNESDAY AS DEEPENING TROUGHING TAKES HOLD  
THERE. ANOMALIES OF 10-20F BELOW AVERAGE MAY FOCUS ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS. MEANWHILE, THE SOUTH-CENTRAL AND  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. COULD SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES AHEAD OF THE  
WESTERN TROUGH.  
 
PUTNAM/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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