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FXUS02 KWBC 261805  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
104 PM EST SAT NOV 26 2022  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 29 2022 - 12Z SAT DEC 3 2022  
 
...WET/SNOWY CONDITIONS EXPANDING ACROSS THE WEST WITH BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES...  
 
...HEAVY RAIN AND SEVERE WEATHER POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE  
SOUTH AND INTO THE OHIO VALLEY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY...  
 
18Z UPDATE: AN ANALYSIS OF THE LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE REVEALS GOOD  
OVERALL SYNOPTIC SCALE AGREEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FORECAST  
PERIOD ON TUESDAY. HOWEVER, TIMING DIFFERENCES EMERGE WITH THE  
TIMING OF THE DEVELOPING STORM SYSTEM OVER THE PLAINS AND ITS  
TRAILING COLD FRONT AS EARLY AS TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PAST FEW RUNS  
OF THE GFS APPEAR TO BE TOO SLOW IN THE PROGRESSION OF THE COLD  
FRONT ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST AND THEN ACROSS THE EAST COAST, WITH  
THE PARENT SURFACE LOW POSITIONED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE MODEL  
CONSENSUS. THE CMC/ECMWF/ECENS ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE AND THIS ALSO  
HAS SOME SUPPORT FROM THE ICON AND JMA MODELS, SO THE  
FRONT/PRESSURES FORECAST WAS HEDGED IN THIS DIRECTION WITH A  
FASTER FRONTAL PROGRESSION. THE 12Z GFS DID TREND A LITTLE FASTER  
COMPARED TO ITS 6Z RUN, BUT STILL SLOWER COMPARED TO THE  
CONSENSUS. THE UKMET ALSO STRAYED FROM CONSENSUS NEAR THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST GOING INTO THURSDAY AND BEYOND, SO IT WAS ONLY USED  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
FOR THE QPF FORECAST, ABOUT HALF OF THE NBM AND 1/6 EACH OF THE  
ECMWF, CMC, AND ECENS WAS USED AS A BASELINE THROUGH THURSDAY, AND  
THEN GRADUALLY INCREASED NBM PROPORTION GOING INTO FRIDAY AND  
SATURDAY. A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL WAS INTRODUCED FOR  
THE DAY 4 PERIOD FROM SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI TO SOUTH-CENTRAL  
TENNESSEE TO ACCOUNT FOR A BETTER MODEL SIGNAL OF 1-3 INCH  
RAINFALL TOTALS WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS. LOCAL INCREASES WERE  
MADE DOWNWIND OF THE GREAT LAKES ON THURSDAY TO ACCOUNT FOR LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW POTENTIAL. ACROSS THE WESTERN U.S., THERE HAS BEEN AN  
UPWARD TREND IN EXPECTED OVERALL QPF FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD, ALTHOUGH PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WERE TRIMMED BACK  
SLIGHTLY FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED MODEL BLEND. THE PREVIOUS  
FORECAST DISCUSSION FOLLOWS BELOW FOR REFERENCE. /HAMRICK  
 
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..OVERVIEW
 
 
THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS GENERALLY AGREE FROM THE LARGE-SCALE  
PERSPECTIVE, SHOWING A MEAN TROUGH SETTING UP NEAR THE WEST COAST  
WHILE AN UPPER RIDGE OVER THE BAHAMAS/CUBA AS OF EARLY TUESDAY  
STEADILY RETROGRADES INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. A LEADING STRONG  
UPPER TROUGH EMERGING FROM THE WEST SHOULD SUPPORT DEEPENING  
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE THAT TRACKS FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE  
GREAT LAKES TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. THE TRAILING COLD FRONT MAY FOCUS  
HEAVY RAINFALL FROM THE SOUTH INTO THE OHIO VALLEY, WITH SEVERE  
WEATHER ALSO POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN AREAS, WITH SOME HEAVY  
RAINFALL ALSO POTENTIALLY REACHING THE NORTHEAST. SOME SNOW WILL  
BE POSSIBLE NORTH/WEST OF THE LOW TRACK. THE FIRST SYSTEM  
DROPPING INTO THE DEVELOPING WEST COAST TROUGH SHOULD AFFECT THE  
NORTHWEST WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY WITH ANOTHER SYSTEM POSSIBLY  
APPROACHING BY NEXT SATURDAY. EXPECT PRECIPITATION TO PUSH  
SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE WEST WITH TIME AS THE OVERALL UPPER  
TROUGH AMPLIFIES. BY LATE IN THE WEEK THE DETAILS OF INDIVIDUAL  
FEATURES AFFECTING THE WEST AND EJECTING DOWNSTREAM TO AFFECT  
AREAS EAST OF THE ROCKIES BECOME INCREASINGLY UNCERTAIN. THE  
OVERALL PATTERN WILL FAVOR BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER MUCH OF  
THE WEST AND PARTS OF THE HIGH PLAINS, WITH MONTANA AND NEARBY  
AREAS LIKELY TO SEE THE MOST PERSISTENT AND COLDEST ANOMALIES.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE AND PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
GUIDANCE IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF REFINING THE FORECAST FOR THE  
DEVELOPING STORM SYSTEM EXPECTED TO TRACK FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS  
THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND INTO CANADA TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. TRACK  
SPREAD HAS NARROWED NOTICEABLY BUT MEANINGFUL STRENGTH DIFFERENCES  
REMAIN. 12Z/18Z GFS RUNS WERE ON THE FAST AND WEAK SIDE OF THE  
SPREAD (THE WEAK CHARACTER BEING A PERSISTENT TRAIT FOR MULTIPLE  
RUNS). THE NEW 00Z GFS HAS SLOWED DOWN SOME BUT IS STILL AMONG  
THE WEAKER SOLUTIONS, ALBEIT NOW JOINED BY THE 00Z CMC. THE 00Z  
GFS PARALLEL IS DEEPER AND IN LINE WITH THE OPERATIONAL MODEL  
AVERAGE. ON THE OTHER HAND THE 00Z UKMET EXTENDS A RECENT TREND  
AWAY FROM ITS DEEP SOLUTIONS. AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION CLOSE TO  
CONTINUITY CONTINUES TO LOOK REASONABLE FOR THE SURFACE LOW GIVEN  
THE BEHAVIOR OF LATEST GUIDANCE. BY EARLY THURSDAY THERE IS AN  
INCREASING SIGNAL IN THE MODELS FOR A FAIRLY STRONG FRONTAL WAVE  
TO REACH A POSITION CLOSE TO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND.  
 
WHILE LOOSELY FITTING WITHIN THE EXPECTED MEAN PATTERN, THE  
12Z/18Z GFS AND GEFS MEANS IN THEIR OWN DIFFERENT WAYS DIFFERED  
SOMEWHAT FROM MOST OTHER GUIDANCE FOR THE WEST COAST UPPER TROUGH.  
THEY ALL WERE FLATTER WITH ENERGY NEARING THE NORTHWEST BY  
MIDWEEK AND THUS MUCH WEAKER WITH THE SURFACE REFLECTION. THEN  
THE GEFS MEAN BECAME LESS AMPLIFIED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH VERSUS  
OTHER SOLUTIONS, AS WELL AS WHAT WOULD BE SUGGESTED BY  
TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THE CORE OF POSITIVE HEIGHT ANOMALIES  
ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPSTREAM RIDGE. MEANWHILE THOSE TWO GFS RUNS  
USED SOME OF THE TROUGH ENERGY TO PULL OF AN UPPER LOW THAT  
ULTIMATELY ENDED UP OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BY DAY 7  
SATURDAY. THE 00Z GFS/GEFS MEAN HAVE ADJUSTED MUCH CLOSER TO THE  
MAJORITY SCENARIO BUT WITH THE GFS FARTHER OFFSHORE THAN THE GEFS  
OR OTHER GUIDANCE FOR THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE NORTHWEST BY  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. THERE IS MODERATE CLUSTERING FOR THE NEXT  
SYSTEM THAT MAY REACH NEAR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY NEXT SATURDAY.  
ALSO LATE IN THE PERIOD THE FORECAST BECOMES INCREASINGLY  
UNCERTAIN OVER HOW EJECTING WEST COAST ENERGY MAY INFLUENCE THE  
SURFACE PATTERN TO THE EAST OF THE ROCKIES. THERE HAS BEEN SOME  
SEMBLANCE OF CLUSTERING AND CONTINUITY FOR A WAVY FRONT TO REACH  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST BY FRIDAY BUT THEN MODELS  
AND EVEN TO SOME DEGREE THE MEANS RAPIDLY DIVERGE FOR SURFACE  
DETAILS FROM THE PLAINS EASTWARD.  
 
THE UPDATED FORECAST MAINTAINED A SOLUTION FAIRLY CLOSE TO  
CONTINUITY BY WAY OF AN OPERATIONAL MODEL BLEND FOR ABOUT THE  
FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD, WITH ECMWF INPUT SPLIT BETWEEN THE PAST  
TWO RUNS THROUGH 12Z AND A LITTLE LESS 18Z GFS WEIGHT THAN WOULD  
TYPICALLY BE THE CASE, AND THEN A MODEL/MEAN MIX THAT TILTED  
SOMEWHAT MORE TOWARD THE ECMWF/ECENS/CMC THAN THE 18Z GFS/GEFS  
MEAN.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
OVER THE WEST, A DEPARTING SYSTEM MAY PRODUCE LINGERING LIGHT SNOW  
OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL/CENTRAL ROCKIES ON TUESDAY. A TRAILING  
SYSTEM NEARING THE NORTHWEST SHOULD SPREAD MOISTURE INTO THE  
REGION TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY WITH SOME LOCALLY MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN  
AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW POSSIBLE. GRADUAL AMPLIFICATION OF  
UPPER TROUGHING SHOULD EXPAND THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD  
SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEK, POSSIBLY REACHING INTO  
CENTRAL OR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. ALSO WORTH MONITORING DURING THE  
LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE UPPER TROUGH TO  
DRAW IN SOME LOWER LATITUDE MOISTURE/SURFACE WAVINESS, WHICH WOULD  
ENHANCE RAIN/SNOW TOTALS OVER SOME AREAS. HOWEVER UNCERTAINTY IN  
IMPORTANT UPPER TROUGH DETAILS KEEPS CONFIDENCE FAIRLY LOW FOR  
PRECISE SOUTHEASTWARD EXTENT AND RAIN/SNOW INTENSITY. SNOW LEVELS  
IN THE NORTHWEST COULD DECLINE TO FAIRLY LOW ELEVATIONS TOWARD THE  
END OF THE WEEK.  
 
DURING TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY, STRENGTHENING CENTRAL PLAINS INTO GREAT  
LAKES LOW PRESSURE AS WELL AS ITS TRAILING COLD FRONT PLUS A  
SEPARATE WARM FRONT LIFTING THROUGH GULF OF MEXICO WILL LIKELY  
BRING PRECIPITATION TO MUCH OF THE EASTERN HALF OF THE LOWER 48.  
WIDESPREAD AND POTENTIALLY HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE FROM THE  
LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS, AND THEN  
THE NORTHEAST COULD ALSO SEE A PERIOD OF INTENSE RAINFALL GIVEN  
THE STRONG DYNAMICS AND POTENTIAL WAVE WITH THE APPROACHING COLD  
FRONT. SUFFICIENT MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY IN THE WARM SECTOR  
COULD ALSO LEAD TO SEVERE WEATHER, WITH THE STORM PREDICTION  
CENTER HIGHLIGHTING THE CHANCE IN THEIR OUTLOOK FOR NEXT TUESDAY  
ACROSS PARTS OF EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.  
MEANWHILE THERE MAY BE A BAND OF MEANINGFUL SNOW TO THE NORTHWEST  
OF THE SURFACE LOW TRACK WITH A POSSIBLE FOCUS OVER THE UPPER  
MIDWEST. FINALLY, THIS STORM MAY PRODUCE STRONG WINDS OVER SOME  
AREAS OF THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE LOWER 48.  
 
SOME RAINFALL MAY DEVELOP OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL/SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S.  
LATE IN THE WEEK, DEPENDING ON HOW THE EXACT PATTERN AT THE  
SURFACE AND ALOFT ALLOWS FOR ANY INCORPORATION OF GULF MOISTURE.  
AT THIS TIME CONFIDENCE IS VERY LOW WITH RESPECT TO POTENTIAL  
COVERAGE AND AMOUNTS.  
 
MUCH OF THE WEST AND NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS SHOULD SEE BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES FOR MOST OF NEXT WEEK. EXPECT THE COLDEST ANOMALIES  
TO BE OVER AND NEAR THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE HIGH PLAINS ON  
TUESDAY WITH HIGHS 20-30F BELOW NORMAL. HIGHS OF 10-20F BELOW  
NORMAL WILL BE COMMON OVER THE INTERIOR WEST ON TUESDAY AND THE  
NORTHWEST LATE IN THE WEEK. SOME DAILY RECORDS FOR COLD  
LOWS/DAYTIME HIGHS MAY BE POSSIBLE AROUND FRIDAY. MEANWHILE, THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL AND EAST-CENTRAL U.S. WILL LIKELY SEE A BRIEF PERIOD  
OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES (UP TO PLUS 10-15F ANOMALIES FOR  
HIGHS AND SLIGHTLY WARMER FOR MORNING LOWS) ON TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY  
AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM EMERGING FROM THE PLAINS. THEN THE COLD AIR  
BEHIND THE FRONT WILL DROP READINGS OVER MOST OF THESE AREAS TO  
MODERATELY BELOW NORMAL BY NEXT THURSDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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