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FXUS02 KWBC 180700  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST WED JAN 18 2023  
 
VALID 12Z SAT JAN 21 2023 - 12Z WED JAN 25 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
LATEST MODELS AND ENSEMBLES STILL MAINTAIN THE THEME OF A  
POSITIVELY TILTED MEAN TROUGH OVER THE LOWER 48 WHILE A STRONG  
RIDGE PERSISTS OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND ANOTHER RIDGE PREVAILS  
SOUTHEAST OF FLORIDA. EXPECT THIS PATTERN TO PRODUCE HIGHEST  
PRECIPITATION TOTALS OVER THE SOUTHEAST AND VICINITY, BUT WITH  
MEANINGFUL TOTALS OF RAIN OR SNOW ALSO POSSIBLY EXTENDING FARTHER  
WEST AND NORTH FROM THE PLAINS INTO THE NORTHEAST WITH INDIVIDUAL  
EMBEDDED SYSTEMS. LOCATIONS FROM THE NORTHWEST U.S.  
EAST/SOUTHEAST INTO THE ROCKIES SHOULD SEE PERIODS OF RAIN AND  
MOUNTAIN SNOW WHILE MUCH OF THE WEST REMAINS BELOW NORMAL FOR  
TEMPERATURES. THERE HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLE GUIDANCE SPREAD AND  
VARIABILITY FOR THE SYSTEMS OF INTEREST BUT LATEST RUNS ARE  
STARTING TO SHOW BETTER CLUSTERING IN SOME RESPECTS, PROVIDING  
HOPE FOR IMPROVED CONFIDENCE SOMETIME SOON FOR SENSIBLE WEATHER  
DETAILS.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
RECENT FORECAST UNCERTAINTY HAS REVOLVED AROUND TWO PRIMARY  
FEATURES, A LEADING UPPER LOW EMERGING FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES  
EARLY SATURDAY (WITH QUESTIONS OVER INTERACTION WITH SOUTHERN  
CANADA/NORTHERN PLAINS ENERGY TO THE NORTH) AND TRAILING SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY DROPPING INTO THE WEST DURING THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. THROUGH THE 00Z/17 CYCLE, GFS RUNS WERE GENERALLY ON THEIR  
OWN IN DEPICTING PRONOUNCED PHASING OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. VERSUS  
HAVING THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE BYPASS THE UPPER LOW.  
HOWEVER THE 12Z MODELS UNANIMOUSLY SWITCHED TO THE PHASED GFS  
SCENARIO AND THE LATEST 00Z RUNS ARE MAINTAINING CONTINUITY WITH  
THAT IDEA. THE END RESULT IS A TREND TOWARD AT LEAST SOME DEGREE  
OF LOW PRESSURE TRACKING WEST OF THE APPALACHIANS BY AROUND SUNDAY  
(THOUGH NOT AS STRONG AS SOME EARLIER GFS RUNS) AND THEN FAIRLY  
STRONG LOW PRESSURE OVER OR NEAR NEW ENGLAND BY EARLY MONDAY. THE  
ECMWF/GFS AND THEIR MEANS ARE FAIRLY CLOSE WHILE LATEST CMC RUNS  
HAVE TENDED TO BE SLOW/SOUTH. THE NEW 00Z UKMET IS THE MOST  
EXTREME WITH ITS FARTHER SOUTHEAST TRACK OFF THE COAST. EVEN WITH  
ALL OF THE MODEL AND ENSEMBLE MEMBER SPREAD AND INCONSISTENCY  
BEFORE THIS RECENT CONVERGENCE OF SOLUTIONS, ENSEMBLE MEANS HAD  
BEEN HINTING AT SOME DEGREE OF LOW PRESSURE REACHING THE NEW  
ENGLAND AREA FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.  
 
FOR THE NEXT SYSTEM DROPPING INTO THE WEST, THE BEST RECENT SIGNAL  
HAS BEEN FOR AN OPEN WAVE TO CLOSE OFF AN UPPER LOW NEAR THE FOUR  
CORNERS (A LITTLE LATER/SOUTH VERSUS A NUMBER OF GFS RUNS) THOUGH  
THE LATEST CMC/UKMET ACTUALLY SHOW AN UPPER LOW TRACK FARTHER  
SOUTHWEST. THE MOST EXTREME SIDE OF THE SPREAD IS STILL A  
QUESTION MARK SINCE TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THE UPSTREAM RIDGE  
DO NOT SEEM TO FAVOR STRONGLY NEGATIVE HEIGHT ANOMALIES OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST, THOUGH PERHAPS SUFFICIENT PROGRESSION TO TEMPER THE  
MULTI-DAY MEAN COULD STILL LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO THAT  
POSSIBILITY. MEANWHILE THE 12Z ECMWF STRAYED TO THE FAST SIDE OF  
THE ENVELOPE WITH THE ECMWF MEAN PARTWAY BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND  
SLOWER GFS/GEFS MEAN/CMC CLUSTER. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF IS STILL ON  
THE EAST SIDE OF THE SPREAD, JUST WITH A SOMEWHAT DEEPER TREND AS  
ITS SHORTWAVE DROPS SOUTHWARD OVER THE ROCKIES. BY EARLY NEXT  
WEDNESDAY THE LOOSE CLUSTERING OF GFS/GEFS MEAN/CMC/ECENS WOULD  
HAVE A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM REACHING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND THE APPALACHIANS/MID ATLANTIC/GREAT LAKES,  
VERSUS THE SOUTHEAST COAST IN THE 12Z ECMWF. EVEN WITH ITS  
DIFFERENT DETAILS THE NEW 00Z ECMWF ENDS UP WITH ITS SURFACE LOW  
NEAR THE 12Z ECMWF MEAN.  
 
BASED ON LATEST TRENDS AND CLUSTERING, THE EARLY PART OF THE  
UPDATED FORECAST FOLLOWED AN OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE EARLY AND  
THEN TRANSITIONED TOWARD A COMBINATION OF THE 18Z GFS/12Z CMC AND  
THE 18Z GEFS/12Z ECMWF MEANS TO REFLECT THE MODERATE MAJORITY  
SCENARIO BY LATE IN THE PERIOD.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARD HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
WHILE THERE IS STILL A FAIR AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST  
SPECIFICS, THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THE BROAD THEME OF  
TWO PRIMARY SYSTEMS AND THEIR GENERAL TIMING. THE FIRST SHOULD  
TRACK FROM THE PLAINS THROUGH THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN EAST COAST  
SATURDAY-MONDAY, BRINGING THE POTENTIAL FOR WINTRY WEATHER FROM  
THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE NORTHEAST AND RAIN TO THE SOUTH.  
EXPECT THE HEAVIEST RAIN OVER THE SOUTHEAST WHERE GULF MOISTURE  
MAY INTERACT WITH A LEADING WARM FRONT. MOST GUIDANCE HAS BEEN  
TRENDING DEEPER FOR THIS STORM NEAR NEW ENGLAND BY MONDAY, SO  
BRISK TO STRONG WINDS COULD BE POSSIBLE. THERE IS STILL POTENTIAL  
FOR A MEANINGFUL CHANGE IN THE MOST LIKELY TRACK SO CONTINUE TO  
MONITOR FORECASTS FOR THIS SYSTEM. THE NEXT SYSTEM MAY AFFECT THE  
CENTRAL-EASTERN U.S. BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY WITH A PRECIPITATION  
DISTRIBUTION THAT COULD HAVE SOME SIMILARITIES TO THE FIRST  
SYSTEM. HOWEVER THERE ARE SIGNALS THAT THIS LATTER SYSTEM COULD  
BE DEEPER WHILE STILL WEST OF THE APPALACHIANS. ACROSS THE WEST,  
RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOW OF MOSTLY MODERATE AMOUNTS SHOULD EXTEND  
FROM THE NORTHWEST/NORTHERN ROCKIES TO THE SOUTH/SOUTHEAST.  
SOUTHWESTWARD EXTENT OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL DEPEND ON EXACT  
TRACK/AMPLITUDE OF THE WEEKEND FEATURE WHOSE DETAILS REMAIN  
UNRESOLVED.  
 
MOST ASPECTS OF THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST HAVE CHANGED LITTLE OVER  
THE PAST DAY. THE NORTHERN THREE-FOURTHS OF THE WEST AND INTO  
PARTS OF THE HIGH PLAINS STILL LOOK CHILLY THROUGH THE PERIOD WITH  
HIGHS 5-20F BELOW NORMAL. AN ISOLATED LOCATION OR TWO COULD SEE A  
RECORD COLD HIGH. LOCATIONS ACROSS THE EASTERN U.S. AND NORTHERN  
PLAINS SHOULD SEE NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS WITH GENERALLY WARMER  
ANOMALIES (UP TO PLUS 10-20F OVER SOME AREAS) FOR LOWS.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION, EXPERIMENTAL EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK, WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES AND HEAT INDICES ARE  
AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
 

 
 

 
 
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