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FXCA20 KWBC 041818  
PMDCA  
 
TROPICAL DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
217 PM EDT WED OCT 04 2023  
 
FORECAST BULLETIN 04 OCT 2023 AT 1830 UTC: THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  
CENTER CONTINUES TO ISSUE ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL STORM  
PHILIPPE...WHICH IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 200 MILES NNW OF ST THOMAS  
USVI. TROPICAL STORM PHILIPPE IS MOVING TO THE NNW...AND IS  
EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY TRACK NORTHWARD STARTING TONIGHT. PHILIPPE  
IS EXPECTED TO CAUSE HEAVY RAIN ACROSS THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...USVI  
AND PUERTO RICO TODAY...WITH FEEDER BANDS POSSIBLY CAUSING  
ADDITIONAL RAIN ON THURSDAY AS WELL. THE FORECAST FOR THE 3-DAY  
ACCUMULATED RAIN FOR THOSE AREAS IS AS HIGH AS 100-200MM FOR  
PORTIONS OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...WHILE PR/USVI COULD OBSERVE AS  
MUCH AS 50-100MM. MOST OF THE RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BE  
TODAY...THOUGH SOUTHERLY WINDS BRINGING MOISTURE WOULD CONTINUE TO  
CAUSE SHOWERS ACROSS THE LESSER ANTILLES AND NORTHEAST CARIBBEAN  
INTO FRIDAY. THERE IS ALSO A TROPICAL WAVE THAT IS EXPECTED TO  
CROSS THE LESSER ANTILLES LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...WHICH WILL  
CAUSE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL FOR THE WINDWARD ISLANDS. ACROSS THE  
EASTERN PACIFIC...TROPICAL STORM LIDIA IS MOVING TO THE NNW AND IS  
EXPECTED TO REMAIN OVER THE WATERS.  
 
ACROSS THE REST OF THE TROPICAL REGION...SEVERAL FEATURES WILL  
HELP THE DEVELOPMENT OF SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
THE TROPICS. THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO NOT BE IN AGREEMENT  
IN MANY AREAS...BUT PARTICULARLY ACROSS NORTHERN SOUTH AMERICA  
INTO CENTRAL AMERICA. THERE WERE SOME GENERAL AGREEMENTS IN A FEW  
AREAS...AND THUS THE RAINFALL FORECAST REFLECTS THE AGREEMENT. IN  
AREAS WHERE THE MODELS DIFFERED GREATLY FROM EACH OTHER...WE TRIED  
TO SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE AND NUDGED THE FORECAST ONE WAY OR ANOTHER  
DEPENDING ON THE SYNOPTIC FEATURES. IT IS ALSO WORTH MENTIONING  
THAT THE GFS MODEL HAD HIGHER AMOUNTS OF RAIN WITH STRONG  
THUNDERSTORMS...WHILE THE ECMWF WAS MORE GENERALIZED. THUS MORE  
PRIORITY WAS GIVEN TO THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF HEAVIER RAIN EVEN  
THOUGH THE COVERAGE MAY BE LIMITED.  
 
AT THE SURFACE...THERE IS WEAK HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
ATLANTIC....THERE IS ALSO A HIGH PRESSURE MOVING INTO THE WESTERN  
ATLANTIC AS IT MOVES OFFSHORE FROM THE NORTHEAST US...AND A  
STATIONARY FRONT FROM THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC INTO THE NORTHERN  
BAHAMAS. IN THE MID LEVELS...THERE IS A BROAD HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS  
THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...A TROUGH ACROSS THE WESTERN ATLANTIC THAT  
WILL DEVELOP INTO A MID LEVEL LOW...AND THE ASSOCIATED TROUGH  
REACHES THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN BY LATE THURSDAY. THEN IN THE UPPER  
LEVELS THERE IS ALSO A TROUGH EXTENDING FROM THE WESTERN ATLANTIC  
INTO THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN...WHICH WILL AMPLIFY INTO  
THURSDAY...AND AFFECT THE NORTHWESTERN SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA  
AND PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AMERICA...PROVIDING VENTILATION AND  
INCREASING INSTABILITY...INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT  
RAINFALL WITH THUNDERSTORMS. HOWEVER...AN UPPER RIDGE WILL BE  
MOVING IN LATER ON FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY.  
 
MOST OF THE TROPICAL REGION HAS NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL  
MOISTURE...EXCEPT FOR SOUTHERN MEXICO INTO GUATEMALA...THAT HAS  
NEAR TO SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL MOISTURE...AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF  
THE ATLANTIC SIDE OF CENTRAL AMERICA. THAT SAID...MOST AREAS IN  
THE TROPICS ARE FORECAST AT LEAST SOME RAINFALL.  
HOWEVER...EXCLUDING THE IMPACTS OF PHILIPPE OVER THE LEEWARDS AND  
THE NORTHEAST CARIBBEAN...PORTIONS OF NORTHWESTERN SOUTH AMERICA  
AND SOME AREAS IN CENTRAL AMERICA...PARTICULARLY IN THE BORDER  
BETWEEN PANAMA AND COSTA RICA...ARE EXPECTED TO OBSERVE VERY  
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL TODAY. THIS IS DUE TO THE AVAILABLE MOISTURE  
COMBINING WITH THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGHS THAT ARE EXPECTED  
TO AFFECT THE AREA. RAINFALL TOTALS WITH MAX VALUES OF 25 - 50MM  
ARE FORECAST FOR TODAY ACROSS NORTHWESTERN COLOMBIA AND  
NORTHWESTERN VENEZUELA. A FEW SECTORS OF WESTERN PANAMA INTO  
EASTERN COSTA RICA COULD ALSO OBSERVE BETWEEN 75 AND 100MM TODAY.  
FURTHER NORTH IN CENTRAL AMERICA...THE PACIFIC SECTORS OF  
NICARAGUA AS WELL AS EL SALVADOR ARE FORECAST UP TO 40MM  
TODAY...WHILE NORTHEASTERN NICARAGUA...HONDURAS...GUATEMALA AND  
SOUTHERN MEXICO IS FORECAST TO OBSERVE UP TO 15MM. THE WESTERN  
COAST OF MEXICO IS FORECAST UP TO 20-35MM HOWEVER. IN THE  
CARIBBEAN THE GREATER ANTILLES...FROM HISPANIOLA TO CUBA ARE  
FORECAST GENERALLY 05-10MM WITH MAX VALUES UP TO 15-35MM.  
 
THURSDAY WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AS WELL.  
NORTHWESTERN COLOMBIA AND VENEZUELA...AS WELL AS EASTERN INTO  
CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN VENEZUELA ARE FORECAST THUNDERSTORMS THAT  
COULD PRODUCE MAX VALUES OF 25-50MM OR EVEN HIGHER ACROSS ISOLATED  
AREAS. MUCH LOWER AMOUNTS OF RAIN ARE FORECAST ELSEWHERE IN SOUTH  
AMERICA...UP TO 25MM OR SO. THE PACIFIC SIDE OF CENTRAL AMERICA IS  
FORECAST AS MUCH AS 35MM FROM NICARAGUA TO SOUTHERN MEXICO...AND  
THE NORTHERN HALF OF NICARAGUA TO SOUTHERN MEXICO IS FORECAST MAX  
VALUES OF 15MM. THE WESTERN COAST OF MEXICO INTO THE NORTH CENTRAL  
SECTORS ARE FORECAST MAX VALUES OF 15-35MM. HOWEVER...A SMALL  
PORTION OF NORTHEASTERN MEXICO...CLOSE TO THE BORDER WITH  
TEXAS...COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT THUNDERSTORMS FROM THURSDAY INTO  
FRIDAY...WITH MAX VALUES THAT COULD REACH 75-125MM. THE CARIBBEAN  
AND THE BAHAMAS WILL HAVE VARYING AMOUNTS OF RAIN...THOUGH MOST OF  
THE RAIN WILL BE BETWEEN 05-15MM WITH MAX VALUES BETWEEN  
20-45MM...BUT THE HIGH RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE VERY LOCALIZED AND  
DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL LOCAL EFFECTS...AS PHILIPPE TRACKS  
NORTH AND AWAY FROM THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY  
LOOKS TO BE A BIT DRIER FOR THE CARIBBEAN IN GENERAL...THOUGH A  
TROPICAL WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE CARIBBEAN...THE AMOUNTS  
OF RAIN ACROSS THE LESSER ANTILLES AND PUERTO RICO ARE EXPECTED TO  
HAVE MAX VALUES UP TO 15-20MM...THOUGH HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE  
IN VERY ISOLATED AREAS OF NORTHWESTERN PR. HISPANIOLA COULD HAVE  
THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING UP TO 35MM ON FRIDAY...WHILE THE BAHAMAS  
AND THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN ARE EXPECTED MAX TOTALS OF UP TO 15MM.  
PORTIONS OF COLOMBIA AND VENEZUELA COULD OBSERVE ISOLATED  
THUNDERSTORMS. THESE THUNDERSTORMS COULD PRODUCE UP TO 50MM BUT  
THE MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTED ISOLATED ACTIVITY. ANOTHER  
SIGNIFICANT AREA OF THUNDERSTORMS ON FRIDAY IS COSTA RICA AND  
AGAIN NORTHEAST MEXICO...WHERE UP TO 50MM OF RAIN COULD BE  
OBSERVED. ELSEWHERE IN CENTRAL AMERICA AND MEXICO...ISOLATED  
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY COULD PRODUCE MAX VALUES BETWEEN 15 AND  
35MM...WITH THE ATLANTIC SIDE OF THE REGION BEING DRIER.  
 
POSITIONS OF TROPICAL/EASTERLY WAVES INITIALIZED AT 12 UTC  
TYPE SOF INIT 05/00 05/12 06/00 06/12 07/00 07/12 08/00  
TW 15N 55W 57W 60W 62W 65W 67W 70W 73W  
 
A TROPICAL WAVE IS INITIALIZED AT 55W AND TO THE SOUTH OF 15N. THE  
TROPICAL WAVE IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN THE LOCAL  
ISLANDS UNTIL THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...WHEN IT IS EXPECTED TO REACH  
THE WINDWARD ISLANDS...CAUSING SOME RAINFALL ACROSS THE AREA. THE  
TROPICAL WAVE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN THROUGH THE  
LATTER PART OF THE WORKWEEK.  
 
ALAMO...WPC (USA)  
 

 
 
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