853  
FXCA20 KWBC 061625  
PMDCA  
 
TROPICAL DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1225 PM EDT FRI OCT 06 2023  
 
FORECAST BULLETIN 06 OCT 2023 AT 1600 UTC: POST TROPICAL CYCLONE  
PHILIPPE IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ABOUT 110 MILES OR 180 KM SOUTH OF  
BERMUDA. PHILIPPE IS MOVING NORTH-NORTHEAST AND IS EXPECTED TO  
CONTINUE MOVING IN THAT GENERAL DIRECTION OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS  
WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER  
IS ALSO ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL STORM LIDIA...WHICH IS  
LOCATED ABOUT 445 MILES OR 710 KM SOUTH OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF  
BAJA CALIFORNIA. ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  
CENTER...LIDIA IS EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN AS IT MOVES SLOWLY TO THE  
WEST NORTHWEST TODAY AND SATURDAY...THEN WEAKEN AGAIN INTO A  
TROPICAL STORM ON SUNDAY AS IT STARTS TO MOVE NORTH AND THEN  
NORTHEAST BY MONDAY. IN THE FORECAST TRACK...LIDIA WOULD BE  
SOMEWHERE NEAR THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO...CLOSE TO THE MEXICAN  
STATES OF JALISCO...NAYARIT...OR SINALOA. THOUGH THERE IS STILL  
CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY ON THE FORECAST TRACK...INTEREST IN THE  
THE AFOREMENTIONED MEXICAN STATES SHOULD MONITOR THE LATEST  
ADVISORIES ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. THERE IS ALSO  
AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE TO THE SOUTH OF THE GULF OF TEHUANTEPEC  
THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE  
NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE CLOSE TO THE COAST  
OF MICHOACAN...JALISCO...AND COLIMA LATE THIS WEEKEND.  
 
PHILIPPE IS STILL CAUSING SOUTHERLY WINDS ACROSS THE EASTERN  
CARIBBEAN...WHICH WILL CAUSE MOISTURE TO BE BROUGHT UP FROM THE  
SOUTH. THERE IS ALSO A TROPICAL WAVE ACROSS THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN  
WHICH IS EXPECTED TO TO PASS JUST SOUTH OF PR/USVI TODAY...THEN  
REACH HISPANIOLA ON SATURDAY. THIS WILL CAUSE ADDITIONAL RAIN  
ACROSS PR/USVI TODAY...AND OVER HISPANIOLA INTO SATURDAY. THE  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED ACROSS THE LEEWARDS TODAY IS  
MINIMAL...THOUGH THE WINDWARD ISLANDS COULD OBSERVE 10-20MM OF  
RAIN. HISPANIOLA AND PR/USVI IS FORECAST TO OBSERVE UP TO 35MM  
ACROSS ISOLATED AREAS TODAY. DRIER AIR STARTS MOVING INTO THE  
NORTHEAST CARIBBEAN ON SATURDAY...WITH SOME SAHARAN DUST...WHICH  
WILL CAUSE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN RAINFALL ACTIVITY ACROSS THE  
LESSER ANTILLES AND PR/USVI THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THAT SAID...SOME  
RAIN IS STILL FORECAST FOR HISPANIOLA ON SATURDAY AS TRAILING  
MOISTURE FROM THE TROPICAL WAVE INTERACTS WITH THE HEATING AND  
LOCAL EFFECTS TO CAUSE AREAS OF 20-45MM OF RAIN IN THE HIGHER  
ELEVATIONS OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. BY SUNDAY...THE POTENTIAL OF  
RAIN MOVES TO HAITI...THOUGH THE EXPECTED RAINFALL IS UP TO  
15-20MM.LITTLE TO NO RAIN IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE LESSER  
ANTILLES...PR/USVI AND THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ON SUNDAY.  
 
AT THE SURFACE...THERE IS WEAK HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
ATLANTIC THAT WILL PERSIST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THERE IS  
ALSO A HIGH PRESSURE MOVING INTO THE NORTHWESTERN ATLANTIC THAT  
WILL WEAKEN AND DISPLACED AS THE NOW POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE  
PHILIPPE MOVES NORTH ALONG THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. THERE IS A COLD  
FRONT THAT WILL PUSH INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO AND INTO THE WESTERN  
ATLANTIC BY SUNDAY. A TROPICAL WAVE IS CROSSING THE LESSER  
ANTILLES TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE WEST THROUGH THE  
CARIBBEAN OVER THE WEEKEND. IN THE MID LEVELS...THERE IS A WEAK  
BUT BROAD HIGH PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC THAT WILL  
PERSIST OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. A MID LEVEL LOW PRESSURE AND  
ASSOCIATED TROUGH WILL MOVE NORTH ALONG THE WESTERN ATLANTIC AS IT  
WEAKENS AND GETS ABSORBED BY SUNDAY BY A MUCH BROADER AND LARGER  
MID LEVEL LOW MOVING INTO THE NORTHEAST USA. IN THE UPPER LEVELS  
THERE IS ALSO A TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC...WHICH WILL ALSO  
MOVE NORTH ALONG THE WESTERN ATLANTIC BUT WILL LEAVE STRONG WINDS  
ALOFT ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO AND THE WESTERN ATLANTIC  
BY SUNDAY. AN UPPER LEVEL HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE INTO THE  
CARIBBEAN BY SUNDAY AND ANOTHER UPPER HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE INTO  
CENTRAL MEXICO ON SUNDAY...THOUGH THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF MEXICO  
WILL HAVE VERY STRONG WINDS ALOFT AS WELL...GENERALLY BETWEEN 70  
AND 90 KNOTS EACH DAY. THESE STRONG WINDS ALOFT MAY PROVIDE  
VENTILATION FOR THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT...ESPECIALLY OVER  
NORTHEASTERN MEXICO AS A COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PUSH SOUTH AND  
REACH NORTHEASTERN MEXICO. THERE IS ALSO THE ADDED THREAT OF A  
POSSIBLE TROPICAL CYCLONE OR AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WITH  
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY REACHING THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO FROM  
MICHOACAN TO JALISCO ON SUNDAY.  
 
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL IS EXPECTED EACH DAY ACROSS MUCH OF THE  
TROPICAL REGION. THE MODEL GUIDANCE HAAS CHANGED THE AMOUNTS OF  
RAIN...SUGGESTING LESSER AMOUNTS IN SOME AREAS...BUT HIGHER IN  
OTHERS. THAT SAID...THE MODEL GUIDANCE INSISTS ON AN ACTIVE  
WEEKEND WITH AT LEAST SOME RAIN FOR MOST OF THE TROPICAL REGION.  
 
IN NORTHERN SOUTH AMERICA...COLOMBIA AND VENEZUELA ARE EXPECTED TO  
HAVE A FEW SECTORS OBSERVE MAX VALUES OF 30-70 MM OR HIGHER EACH  
DAY THROUGH SUNDAY...WHILE THE REST OF NORTHERN SOUTH AMERICA IS  
EXPECTED TO OBSERVE MORE ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SHOWER ACTIVITY  
WITH ISOLATED WEAK THUNDERSTORMS...AMOUNTING TO MAX VALUES  
GENERALLY BETWEEN 15-35MM. THE GUIANAS HOWEVER ARE EXPECTED TO BE  
GENERALLY DRY EXCEPT GUYANA WHICH IS EXPECTED TO HAVE OCCASIONAL  
THUNDERSTORMS...SOME OF WHICH COULD BE STRONG ENOUGH TO CAUSE OVER  
25MM OF RAIN TODAY AND SATURDAY...BUT NO SIGNIFICANT RAIN IS  
EXPECTED ON SUNDAY.  
 
THE AREAS OF CENTRAL AMERICA EXPECTING THE MOST SIGNIFICANT  
RAINFALL ARE PORTIONS OF WESTERN PANAMA AND EASTERN COSTA RICA  
COULD OBSERVE 25-50MM IN THUNDERSTORMS TODAY AND SATURDAY...WHILE  
SUNDAY LOOKS PARTICULARLY ACTIVE WITH STRONG THUNDERSTORMS OVER  
COSTA RICA AND MAX VALUES NEAR 75-125MM. EL SALVADOR AND GUATEMALA  
ARE FORECAST MAX VALUES BETWEEN 20-40MM EACH DAY. THE ATLANTIC  
SIDE OF NICARAGUA AND HONDURAS IS EXPECTED TO OBSERVE MUCH LESS  
RAIN THAN THE REST...WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND MAX VALUES  
GENERALLY IN THE 10-20MM RANGE.  
 
THINGS CONTINUE COMPLICATED IN MEXICO...AS THERE ARE SEVERAL  
FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORMS IN SOME AREAS. THERE IS THE AFOREMENTIONED AREA OF  
LOW PRESSURE THAT COULD REACH WESTERN MEXICO ON SUNDAY...AND THERE  
IS ALSO TROPICAL STORM LIDIA. THESE SYSTEMS WOULD BE PROVIDING  
MOIST ONSHORE FLOW TO THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND...INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.  
OVER THE NEXT 3 DAYS...THE MOISTURE ADVECTION AND ONSHORE FLOW  
COULD CAUSE LIFTING AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE COASTAL SECTIONS OF MEXICO. THE COLD  
FRONT THAT IS MOVING SOUTH FROM SOUTHERN TEXAS INTO NORTHEASTERN  
MEXICO...COULD CAUSE SIGNIFICANT THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
NORTHERN VERACRUZ...POSSIBLY CAUSING AS MUCH AS 35-80MM EACH DAY  
THIS WEEKEND ACROSS ISOLATED AREAS. THROUGH SUNDAY...THUNDERSTORMS  
ARE PARTICULARLY POSSIBLE ACROSS WESTERN MEXICO...PRODUCING  
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS WITH MAX VALUES SOMEWHERE  
BETWEEN 25-70MM.  
 
POSITIONS OF TROPICAL/EASTERLY WAVES INITIALIZED AT 12 UTC  
TYPE SOF INIT 07/00 07/12 08/00 08/12 09/00 09/12 10/00  
TW 15N 64W 66W 69W 72W 75W 78W 81W 84W  
 
A TROPICAL WAVE IS INITIALIZED AT 64W AND TO THE SOUTH OF 15N.  
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL...OVER 25MM CAN BE EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF  
PR/USVI TODAY. THE TROPICAL WAVE WILL CONTINUE MOVING WEST THROUGH  
THE CARIBBEAN FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. MOST OF THE MOISTURE WILL  
REMAIN TO THE SOUTH OF THE GREATER ANTILLES...BUT IT WILL HELP  
CAUSE SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY  
ACROSS HISPANIOLA.  
 
ALAMO...WPC (USA)  
 

 
 
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