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FXCA20 KWBC 121729  
PMDCA  
 
TROPICAL DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
128 PM EDT THU OCT 12 2023  
 
FORECAST BULLETIN 12 OCT 2023 AT 1700 UTC: THE MODEL GUIDANCE ONCE  
AGAIN SEEMS TO BE SUGGESTING MORE PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE AREA BY  
THE THIRD DAY OF THE FORECAST...AND ADJUSTING DOWNWARD FOR THE  
FIRST TWO DAYS. THEREFORE THE FORECAST FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW HAS  
BEEN ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. IN ADDITION...THE GFS MODEL SEEMS TO BE  
MORE AGGRESSIVE...THOUGH MORE ISOLATED WITH THE HIGH PRECIP  
AREAS...COMPARED TO THE ECMWF MODEL WHICH SUGGESTS LOWER MAX  
RAINFALL BUT ALSO HAS A MORE GENERALIZED COVERAGE OF RAINFALL.  
THEREFORE...CONSIDERING THAT THE MODELS HAVE BEEN TRENDING  
DOWNWARD IN THE NEAR TERM...WE DECIDED TO CAP THE VERY HIGH  
ISOLATED RAINFALL AMOUNTS...BUT SHOW A GENERAL TREND OVER AREAS  
THAT WOULD BE RECEIVING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT  
AMOUNTS COULD BE HIGHER THAN THE RANGE IN THE FORECAST OVER VERY  
ISOLATED AREAS.  
 
A TROPICAL WAVE MOVING WEST ACROSS THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS  
CURRENTLY SOUTH OF OAXACA IN MEXICO. THE MODEL GUIDANCE IS A BIT  
BETTER TODAY AT DEFINING THE LOCATION OF THE WAVE FOR  
SATURDAY...BUT THEN IT SEEMS TO START TO LOSE DEFINITION IN THE  
GUIDANCE FOR SUNDAY. IN THE LOWER LEVELS...THERE IS A LOW PRESSURE  
NEAR 31N/72W THAT IS MOVING EAST AND WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL  
ATLANTIC BY SUNDAY. THERE IS ALSO A SFC HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING  
FROM THE EAST TROPICAL ATLANTIC INTO THE CENTRAL TROPICAL  
ATLANTIC...AND BY SUNDAY THERE WILL BE A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE OVER  
THE WEST CENTRAL TROPICAL ATLANTIC. ANOTHER SFC LOW PRESSURE  
ACROSS THE NORTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO WILL MOVE SLOWLY TO THE  
NORTHEAST...CENTERING ACROSS SOUTHEAST GEORGIA BY SATURDAY AND  
THEN FURTHER NORTHEAST ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES OF EASTERN  
US BY SUNDAY. IN THE MID LEVELS THERE IS A BROAD HIGH PRESSURE  
CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHWEST ATLANTIC...CAUSING SOME STABILITY OVER  
THE GENERAL AREA FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS...AS THE HIGH PRESSURE  
DRIFTS SLOWLY TO THE WEST. ANOTHER BROAD AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE IS  
PRESENT IN THE UPPER LEVELS AND IS CENTERED OVER CUBA...THIS WILL  
ALSO HELP PROMOTE SOME STABILITY AND IT IS ALSO DRIFTING SLOWLY TO  
THE WEST...POSSIBLY BEING CENTERED OVER THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN AND  
SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO BY SUNDAY.  
 
AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED...THE MODEL GUIDANCE HAS TONED DOWN THE  
AMOUNT OF RAIN ACROSS THE TROPICAL REGION FOR TODAY. CONSIDERING  
THE BROAD MID AND UPPER LEVEL HIGH PRESSURES OVER THE  
CARIBBEAN...THIS IS NOT VERY SURPRISING. MOST OF THE EXPECTED  
RAINFALL TODAY WOULD BE DUE TO WIND FLOW AND OROGRAPHIC LIFTING IN  
SOME AREAS. MOST AREAS IN THE BASIN THAT EXPECT SOME RAIN TODAY  
WOULD BE IN THE ORDER OF 01-10MM WITH MAX VALUES BETWEEN 15-25MM.  
HOWEVER...PORTIONS OF COSTA RICA AND WESTERN PANAMA COULD OBSERVE  
UP TO 40MM IN ISOLATED AREAS...WHILE WESTERN COLOMBIA COULD  
OBSERVE UP TO 35MM ACROSS ISOLATED AREAS AS WELL. THE CARIBBEAN IS  
EXPECTED TO SEE LITTLE TO NO RAIN INTO THE WEEKEND...THAT  
IS...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VERY ISOLATED AMOUNTS OF 25MM OR  
HIGHER...MOST AREAS IN THE CARIBBEAN WOULD OBSERVE 15MM OR LESS  
THROUGH THE WEEKEND.  
 
FOR FRIDAY...THE FORECAST FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL ALSO DECREASED.  
MAX RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE FORECAST TO BE GENERALLY BETWEEN 15-25MM  
ACROSS MOST AREAS OF CENTRAL AMERICA...AS WELL AS SOUTHERN AND  
EASTERN MEXICO...AND PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL SOUTH AMERICA. THAT  
SAID...ISOLATED AREAS OF COSTA RICA...WESTERN COLOMBIA AND  
NORTHWESTERN ECUADOR...COULD OBSERVE SIGNIFICANT  
THUNDERSTORMS...AND THE FORECAST IS FOR MAX VALUES BETWEEN 40-80MM  
WITH THE STRONGEST STORMS. THE AMOUNTS OF RAIN INCREASE FOR  
SATURDAY INTO EARLY SUNDAY...BUT GIVEN THE RECENT HISTORY OF THE  
MODEL GUIDANCE...
OUR FORECAST CAPS THE VERY HIGH RAINFALL AMOUNTS  
AS MODELS SEEM TO BE CORRECTING EACH DAY. SO FOR SATURDAY INTO  
SUNDAY...ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF MEXICO...WESTERN  
COLOMBIA...AND PORTIONS OF NORTHWESTERN ECUADOR...SHOWERS AND  
THUNDERSTORMS ARE FORECAST...WITH MAX VALUES UP TO 40-80MM WITH  
THE STRONGEST STORMS. NORTHWESTERN PERU COULD HAVE SOME STORMS AS  
WELL...THOUGH AMOUNTS UP TO 50MM OR SO WOULD BE EXPECTED.  
ELSEWHERE IN THE TROPICAL REGION...RAINFALL AMOUNTS UP TO 15-25MM  
COULD BE EXPECTED...THOUGH ONCE AGAIN THE CARIBBEAN SEEMS TO BE  
FAIRLY DRY WITH LITTLE IN THE WAY OF SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL  
COVERAGE.  
 
POSITIONS OF TROPICAL/EASTERLY WAVES INITIALIZED AT 12 UTC  
TYPE SOF INIT 13/00 13/12 14/00 14/12 15/00 15/12 16/00  
TW 15N 96W 98W 100W 102W 104W DISS  
 
A TROPICAL WAVE IS INITIALIZED AT 96W AND TO THE SOUTH OF 15N. THE  
TROPICAL WAVE IS MOVING WEST ALONG THE COAST OF MEXICO...BUT THE  
IMPACT ON THE RAINFALL POTENTIAL OVER MEXICO SEEMS TO BE MINIMAL.  
THE TROPICAL WAVE STARTS TO LOSE DEFINITION IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE  
AFTER SATURDAY.  
 
ALAMO...WPC (USA)  
 

 
 
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