109  
FXUS02 KWBC 080657  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
157 AM EST FRI DEC 08 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON DEC 11 2023 - 12Z FRI DEC 15 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE WILL BE IN PLACE IN THE NORTHEAST AS THE  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS MONDAY, BRINGING POSSIBLY HEAVY RAIN  
AND SNOW TO THE REGION BEFORE THE SYSTEM EXITS BY TUESDAY. AFTER A  
BOUT OF LIGHT TO MODERATE PRECIPITATION IN THE NORTHWEST ON MONDAY  
AS WELL, MUCH OF THE LOWER 48 WILL TREND DRIER BY TUESDAY. BY  
MIDWEEK AND BEYOND THOUGH, RETURN FLOW FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO  
STREAMING INTO THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AHEAD OF A FOUR CORNERS  
UPPER LOW SHOULD LEAD TO INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES THERE,  
WHILE MOIST EASTERLY FLOW COULD SPREAD CONVECTION INTO THE FLORIDA  
PENINSULA.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE AGREEABLE FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD, INCLUDING INITIAL TROUGHING IN THE EASTERN U.S.  
SUPPORTING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE IN THE NORTHEAST. MODELS INDICATE  
THIS TROUGH SHOULD EXIT QUICKLY WHILE ANOTHER TROUGH THAT IS NOT  
AS DEEP PUSHES THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY.  
GUIDANCE ALSO SHOWS NOTABLE AGREEMENT REGARDING ENERGY DROPPING  
INTO THE SOUTHWEST AND FORMING A CLOSED LOW BY WEDNESDAY, JUST  
WITH SOME MINOR PLACEMENT DIFFERENCES IN THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS. OVERALL A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND WAS USED FOR  
THE FIRST PART OF THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
BY THURSDAY-FRIDAY, THE 12Z AND THE PREVIOUS 00Z RUN (BOTH FROM  
DEC 7) OF THE ECMWF WERE QUITE AGGRESSIVE WITH ANOTHER SHORTWAVE  
COMING IN BEHIND THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW, WHICH THEN TAKES OVER IN  
COMING THROUGH CALIFORNIA AND THE CENTRAL GREAT BASIN AND MERGES  
WITH THE PREEXISTING LOW. THOUGH THE DETERMINISTIC RUN IS  
SUPPORTED BY SOME OF ITS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, OTHER GUIDANCE DOES NOT  
FAVOR THIS SOLUTION, AND NEITHER DO THE AI/MACHINE LEARNING ECMWF  
VERSIONS. THUS REMOVED THE ECMWF FROM THE FORECAST BLEND BUT KEPT  
SOME EC ENSEMBLE MEAN AS A NOD TO THIS POSSIBILITY. THE NEWER 00Z  
ECMWF IS SORT OF IN BETWEEN, WITH A WEAKER SHORTWAVE THAN ITS  
PREVIOUS RUN BUT STRONGER THAN OTHER GUIDANCE, BUT ENDING UP WITH  
AN UPPER LOW IN THE GREAT BASIN WHERE GFS RUNS HAVE A RIDGE ON  
FRIDAY. THE 00Z CMC TRENDED TOWARD AN EC-LIKE SOLUTION AFTER ITS  
12Z RUN WAS MORE LIKE THE GFS RUNS. SO THERE IS STILL SOME  
UNCERTAINTY HERE. THERE IS AT LEAST SOME AGREEMENT WITH RIDGING  
DOWNSTREAM ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. PUSHING TOWARD THE EASTERN U.S.  
BY FRIDAY. THE LATEST WPC FORECAST FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE  
PERIOD WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE 18Z GFS AND GEFS MEAN ALONG  
WITH THE 12Z CMC AND SOME 12Z EC ENSEMBLE MEAN.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
PRECIPITATION WILL BE ONGOING ACROSS THE NORTHEAST ON MONDAY. MUCH  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS MAINE IN  
PARTICULAR EARLY IN THE DAY, WHICH ALONG WITH A BOUT OF HEAVY RAIN  
COULD CAUSE QUICKLY MELTING SNOW FOR POSSIBLE FLOODING THERE. A  
MARGINAL RISK IS PLANNED FOR DAY 4/MONDAY IN THE EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK FOR THIS POTENTIAL, AND RIVER FLOODING IS ALSO A  
THREAT. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW, PROBABILITIES FOR NOTABLE SNOW  
ARE INCREASING ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST ON MONDAY. SOME BRISK TO STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE  
FROM THE SOUTH AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND FROM THE WEST BEHIND  
IT. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD CLEAR OUT BY MONDAY NIGHT.  
 
SOME LIGHT TO MODERATE PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST ON MONDAY, WITH SOME ENHANCED SNOW TOTALS LINGERING IN  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. AFTER THAT, PRECIPITATION WILL BE AT A  
MINIMUM ACROSS THE LOWER 48 ON TUESDAY, BUT CHANCES FOR  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD INCREASE ON WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY ACROSS THE  
SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AS AN UPPER LOW SETTLES OVER THE SOUTHWEST  
AND MOISTURE INTERACTS WITH A FRONT. SOME OF THIS PRECIPITATION  
MAY BE SNOW, WITH TYPICAL ELEVATION/COVERAGE UNCERTAINTY.  
MEANWHILE EASTERLY FLOW SETTING UP TO THE SOUTH OF STRONG EASTERN  
U.S. HIGH PRESSURE WILL PROMOTE PERIODS OF RAIN OVER FLORIDA.  
FINALLY, LIGHT PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE AT TIMES IN THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST FOR THE LATTER HALF OF NEXT WEEK.  
 
AS NOTED ABOVE, TEMPERATURES WILL BE WELL ABOVE AVERAGE IN THE  
NORTHEAST ON MONDAY, AND SEVERAL RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURES  
COULD BE BROKEN. BEHIND THE COLD FRONT, TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
AROUND 5-10F BELOW AVERAGE ACROSS THE GULF COAST TO CENTRAL  
APPALACHIANS ON MONDAY AND PUSHING INTO THE SOUTHEAST ON TUESDAY,  
WHILE THE NORTHEAST MODERATES TO NEAR AVERAGE. AFTER THAT THE EAST  
SHOULD SEE GENERALLY NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES, PERHAPS REACHING  
ABOVE NORMAL BY FRIDAY. FARTHER WEST, THE MOST PERSISTENT ABOVE  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. (OTHER  
THAN A BRIEF COOLER SPELL ON TUESDAY) AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS. THE  
GREATEST ANOMALIES LOOK TO BE ON THURSDAY-FRIDAY FOR THE DAKOTAS  
INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST AS TEMPERATURES REACH 10-20F ABOVE NORMAL.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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