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FXUS02 KWBC 081900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 PM EST FRI DEC 08 2023  
 
VALID 12Z MON DEC 11 2023 - 12Z FRI DEC 15 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
DEEPENING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE CROSSING NEW ENGLAND ON MONDAY WILL  
BRING THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAIN AND SNOW TO THE REGION BEFORE  
THE SYSTEM EXITS BY TUESDAY. AFTER A BOUT OF LIGHT TO MODERATE  
PRECIPITATION IN THE NORTHWEST ON MONDAY AS WELL, MUCH OF THE  
LOWER 48 WILL TREND DRIER BY TUESDAY. BY MIDWEEK AND BEYOND  
THOUGH, RETURN FLOW FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO STREAMING INTO THE  
SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AHEAD OF A FOUR CORNERS UPPER LOW SHOULD LEAD  
TO INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES THERE. MOIST EASTERLY FLOW  
COULD SPREAD CONVECTION INTO THE FLORIDA PENINSULA WITH A TENDENCY  
TOWARD HIGHER RAINFALL TOTALS LATE IN THE WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES AGREE WITH THE LARGER SCALE ASPECTS OF  
THE PATTERN. A LEADING AMPLIFIED TROUGH SHOULD LIFT AWAY FROM THE  
EAST WHILE A MORE SHALLOW TROUGH CENTERED OVER SOUTH-CENTRAL  
CANADA AS OF MONDAY ULTIMATELY CROSSES THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT  
OF THE LOWER 48 AND EASTERN CANADA. MEANWHILE CONSENSUS IS  
MAINTAINING THE IDEA OF INCOMING PACIFIC ENERGY CONSOLIDATING INTO  
A CLOSED LOW OVER THE GREAT BASIN/SOUTHWEST/FOUR CORNERS AREA BY  
MIDWEEK WHILE AN UPPER RIDGE BUILDS INTO THE NORTHWEST AND THEN  
THE CENTRAL U.S. AROUND THE UPPER LOW. THERE IS ALSO GOOD  
AGREEMENT WITH EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH AMPLIFICATION MID-LATE WEEK  
WITH A RIDGE REBUILDING NEAR THE WEST COAST. HOWEVER, THERE IS  
CONSIDERABLE SPREAD ON HOW A SHORTWAVE NEARING THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST AROUND WEDNESDAY MAY SPLIT AS IT NEARS THE COAST, WITH  
DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS ON THE WESTERN UPPER LOW. UPPER LEVEL/SURFACE  
SPECIFICS ACROSS THE GULF OF MEXICO AND FLORIDA ALSO BECOME A  
QUESTION MARK BY LATE NEXT WEEK, WITH IMPLICATIONS FOR DETAILS OF  
THE GENERAL WETTER TREND SIGNALED IN THE GUIDANCE.  
 
FOCUSING FIRST ON THE SPREAD THAT DEVELOPS OVER THE WESTERN HALF  
OF THE COUNTRY AFTER MIDWEEK, THERE IS STILL A RELATIVE MAJORITY  
OF GUIDANCE THAT IS NOT AS STRONG AS RECENT ECMWF RUNS WITH  
INCOMING MIDWEEK ENERGY WHICH THAT MODEL (AT LEAST IN THE 00Z RUN)  
USES TO FORM A SEPARATE CLOSED LOW AND EJECT THE LEADING MIDWEEK  
WESTERN UPPER LOW WITH FLATTER TROUGH TO THE SOUTH. THE 00Z CMC  
FELL INTO THE ECMWF CAMP AS WELL BUT THE NEW 12Z RUN HAS TRENDED  
MORE SHEARED WITH ITS ENERGY. NOT SURPRISINGLY, A MEANINGFUL  
NUMBER OF ECMWF ENSEMBLES REFLECT SOME ASPECTS OF THE OPERATIONAL  
RUN BUT THE RESULTING MEAN DOES TONE DOWN THE MORE EXTREME ASPECTS  
OF THE OPERATIONAL RUN. THE MAJORITY OF GEFS/CMC ENSEMBLES SIDE  
WITH RECENT GFS RUNS IN SHOWING MINIMAL INFLUENCE FROM THE  
INCOMING ENERGY, HOLDING ONTO A STRONG WESTERN RIDGE BY FRIDAY  
WHILE A WELL-DEFINED TROUGH WITH AT LEAST AN IMPLIED UPPER LOW  
REACHES THE HIGH PLAINS. OVER THE PAST COUPLE DAYS THE 00Z RUNS OF  
ECMWF-INITIALIZED MACHINE LEARNING MODELS HAVE STRONGLY FAVORED  
SOME VARIATION OF THE GFS/GEFS/CMCENS CLUSTER. GIVEN THIS MAJORITY  
SCENARIO AND THE MULTI-DAY MEAN PERSPECTIVE FAVORING MEAN RIDGING  
OVER THE NORTHWEST (WHICH TENDS TOWARD LOW PREDICTABILITY FOR  
WHATEVER ENERGY MAY TRY TO EMBED WITHIN IT), PREFERENCE MAINTAINS  
CONTINUITY BY USING A LATE-PERIOD MODEL/ENSEMBLE MEAN BLEND THAT  
MINIMIZES INFLUENCE OF THE OPERATIONAL ECMWF.  
 
MEANWHILE, SOUTHERN TIER/GULF OF MEXICO DETAIL DIFFERENCES BECOME  
NOTICEABLE LATE IN THE PERIOD AS WELL. IN VARYING WAYS THE LATEST  
GFS/ECMWF RUNS ARE SOMEWHAT STRONGER WITH APPROACHING SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY BY FRIDAY, LEADING TO MORE PRONOUNCED SURFACE WAVINESS OVER  
THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND HEAVIER RAINFALL EXTENDING  
INTO FLORIDA. THUS FAR THE CMC AND GEFS/ECENS/CMCENS MEANS KEEP  
THE SURFACE PATTERN SUPPRESSED OVER AND NEAR THE GULF, SO FOR THE  
TIME BEING WILL AWAIT A MORE PRONOUNCED CLUSTERING BEFORE  
ADJUSTING TOWARD THE ECMWF/GFS DETAILS. THE BLEND FAVORED FOR THE  
LATE-PERIOD WESTERN PATTERN REFLECTS THIS PREFERENCES AS WELL.  
 
A COMPOSITE OF 00Z/06Z MODELS (MORE GFS/ECMWF WEIGHT RELATIVE TO  
THE UKMET/CMC) PROVIDED A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR THE FIRST HALF  
OF THE PERIOD, WITH GOOD CLUSTERING FOR THE NEW ENGLAND SYSTEM ON  
MONDAY AND OTHER MEANINGFUL MONDAY-WEDNESDAY FEATURES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
PRECIPITATION WILL BE ONGOING ACROSS THE NORTHEAST ON MONDAY. MUCH  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS MAINE IN  
PARTICULAR EARLY IN THE DAY, WHICH ALONG WITH A POTENTIAL BAND OF  
HEAVY RAIN (WITHIN AN AXIS OF PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES AT LEAST  
2-3 STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE NORMAL) COULD CAUSE QUICKLY MELTING  
SNOW FOR POSSIBLE FLOODING THERE. THE DAY 4/MONDAY EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK MAINTAINS A MARGINAL RISK FOR THIS POTENTIAL, AND  
RIVER FLOODING IS ALSO A THREAT. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW,  
PROBABILITIES FOR NOTABLE SNOW ARE STILL GRADUALLY INCREASING  
ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST ON  
MONDAY. SOME BRISK TO STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE FROM THE  
SOUTH AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND FROM THE WEST BEHIND IT.  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD CLEAR OUT BY MONDAY NIGHT, PERHAPS ASIDE FROM  
LINGERING LIGHT SNOW TO THE LEE OF LAKE ONTARIO AND FAVORED  
TERRAIN NEAR THE CANADIAN BORDER.  
 
SOME LIGHT TO LOCALLY MODERATE PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES ON MONDAY WITH POTENTIAL FOR SOME LINGERING  
ENHANCED SNOW TOTALS. AFTER THAT, PRECIPITATION WILL BE AT A  
MINIMUM ACROSS THE LOWER 48 ON TUESDAY, BUT CHANCES FOR  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD INCREASE ON WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY ACROSS THE  
SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AS AN UPPER LOW SETTLES OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST/FOUR CORNERS AND MOISTURE INTERACTS WITH A FRONT. SOME  
OF THIS PRECIPITATION MAY BE SNOW, WITH TYPICAL ELEVATION/COVERAGE  
UNCERTAINTY. INCREASING SPREAD FOR SPECIFICS OF WESTERN-CENTRAL  
U.S. FLOW ALOFT BY THE END OF THE WEEK LOWERS CONFIDENCE IN HOW  
PRECIPITATION MAY PROGRESS EASTWARD OVER THE PLAINS ON FRIDAY. A  
WEAKENING FRONT MAY BRING SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST AROUND MIDWEEK OR SO, WITH ONLY LIGHT/SCATTERED ACTIVITY  
EXTENDING FARTHER INLAND IF AT ALL. EXPECT FLORIDA TO SEE MORE  
RAINFALL WITH TIME AS EASTERLY FLOW SETS UP TO THE SOUTH OF STRONG  
EASTERN U.S. HIGH PRESSURE AND DEEP MOISTURE INCREASES. THERE ARE  
SOME SIGNALS FOR HEAVIER RAINFALL BY THE END OF THE WEEK BUT  
DETAILS WILL DEPEND ON LOW-PREDICTABILITY IMPULSES IN SOUTHERN  
STREAM FLOW AND WHETHER THEY ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A  
SURFACE FEATURE.  
 
AS NOTED ABOVE, TEMPERATURES WILL BE WELL ABOVE AVERAGE IN THE  
NORTHEAST ON MONDAY. MORNING LOWS COULD BE NEAR OR ABOVE RECORD  
HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURES FOR THE DATE BUT COLDER AIR MOVING IN  
LATER IN THE DAY COULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO HOLD SUCH VALUES FOR  
THE CALENDAR DAY. COOLEST ANOMALIES OVER THE EAST EARLY IN THE  
WEEK WILL TEND TO BE SOUTH OF THE OHIO RIVER, WITH THE GULF  
COAST/FLORIDA SEEING A DAY OR TWO OF TEMPERATURES 10F OR SO BELOW  
NORMAL. OTHERWISE THE EAST SHOULD SEE GENERALLY NEAR NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES, PERHAPS WITH MODERATELY ABOVE NORMAL LOWS OVER THE  
NORTHEAST MOST DAYS AND ABOVE NORMAL HIGHS OVER ALL BUT THE SOUTH  
BY FRIDAY. FARTHER WEST, THE MOST PERSISTENT ABOVE AVERAGE  
TEMPERATURES WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. (OTHER THAN A  
BRIEF COOLER SPELL ON TUESDAY) AS UPPER RIDGING BUILDS. THE  
GREATEST ANOMALIES LOOK TO BE AROUND THURSDAY-FRIDAY FOR THE  
DAKOTAS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST WITH READINGS UP TO 15-20F ABOVE  
NORMAL. MOST OF THE WEST WILL TEND TO SEE NEAR TO SOMEWHAT ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES. CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION OVER AND NEAR THE  
SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS MID-LATE WEEK WILL SUPPORT A FAIRLY NARROW  
TEMPERATURE RANGE (ABOVE NORMAL LOWS, BELOW NORMAL DAYTIME HIGHS).  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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