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FXUS02 KWBC 090701  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST SAT DEC 09 2023  
 
VALID 12Z TUE DEC 12 2023 - 12Z SAT DEC 16 2023  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A DRY PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE AT THE START OF THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD TUESDAY. BUT BY WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, RETURN FLOW FROM THE  
GULF OF MEXICO STREAMING INTO THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AHEAD OF A  
FOUR CORNERS UPPER LOW SHOULD LEAD TO INCREASING PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES THERE. THE UPPER TROUGH PUSHING EASTWARD INTO LATE WEEK  
MAY SPREAD SOME PRECIPITATION FARTHER EAST WHILE HIGH PRESSURE  
BUILDS IN BEHIND. ADDITIONALLY, MOIST EASTERLY FLOW COULD SPREAD  
CONVECTION INTO THE FLORIDA PENINSULA WITH A TENDENCY TOWARD  
HIGHER RAINFALL TOTALS LATE IN THE WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE EVALUATION/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL AND ENSEMBLE AGREEMENT REMAINS GOOD FOR THE EARLY PART OF  
THE FORECAST PERIOD, SHOWING ENERGY DIGGING THROUGH THE WEST  
TUESDAY SERVING TO CREATE A CLOSED LOW OVER THE GREAT BASIN TO  
FOUR CORNERS WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. MEANWHILE A RELATIVELY SHALLOW  
TROUGH IS FORECAST TO PUSH THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL TO  
NORTHEASTERN U.S. WHILE UPPER RIDGING BUILDS IN BETWEEN THESE  
FEATURES AND OVER THE WEST COAST. GIVEN THE GENERAL MODEL  
AGREEMENT, A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND WAS USED FOR THE  
EARLY PART OF THE PERIOD.  
 
BY THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK, MODEL SPREAD NOTABLY INCREASES,  
STARTING WITH A SHORTWAVE THAT IS SET TO COME INTO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST BY THURSDAY. THIS FEATURE HAS SHOWN CONSIDERABLE  
VARIABILITY IN ITS STRENGTH AND THE POTENTIAL INTERACTION WITH THE  
DOWNSTREAM UPPER LOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. THE 12Z ECMWF  
WAS A LITTLE LESS AGGRESSIVE WITH THE SHORTWAVE THAN ITS PREVIOUS  
RUNS BUT STILL DIGS THE ENERGY FARTHER WEST THAN THE GFS RUNS INTO  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES BY FRIDAY, THOUGH THE CMC SHOWS SOME HINTS OF  
THIS AS WELL. SOME EC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS REFLECT SOME ASPECTS OF THE  
OPERATIONAL RUN BUT THE RESULTING MEAN DOES TONE DOWN THE MORE  
EXTREME ASPECTS. THE BULK OF OTHER MODEL AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE  
(INCLUDING THE ECMWF-INITIALIZED MACHINE LEARNING MODELS) AS WELL  
AS THE WPC PREFERENCE HAS BEEN LEANING AWAY FROM A SHORTWAVE THAT  
IS STRONG ENOUGH TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE TRACK OF THE  
DOWNSTREAM LOW. HOWEVER, NOW THE 00Z GFS KEEPS THE SHORTWAVE AND  
THE DOWNSTREAM LOW (IN WEAKER FORM) AS SEPARATE FEATURES WITHIN  
THE BROADER TROUGH. THIS ALSO IMPACTS THE OTHER MAIN UNCERTAIN  
ASPECT OF THE FORECAST--THE POTENTIAL FOR A SURFACE LOW TO SPIN UP  
IN THE GULF OF MEXICO LATE WEEK IF IT HAS ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM  
ENERGY ALOFT. THE 12Z GFS AND ECMWF RUNS WERE REASONABLY AGREEABLE  
IN SHOWING THIS SURFACE LOW, SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A SOMEWHAT NEW  
TREND, THE WPC FORECAST TRENDED TOWARD IT SLIGHTLY. BUT THE 18Z  
AND 00Z GFS RUNS SHOW AN INCREASINGLY NORTHEAST POSITION OVER THE  
SOUTHEASTERN U.S. WITH THE SURFACE LOW, WHICH SEEMS QUITE  
AGGRESSIVE. MEANWHILE THE ENSEMBLE MEANS FROM THE VARIOUS MODEL  
SUITES INDICATE A SUPPRESSED SURFACE PATTERN, BUT THE ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH A POTENTIAL SURFACE LOW.  
CLEARLY THE MODEL DIFFERENCES ARE NOT YET RESOLVED. THE LATTER  
PART OF THE WPC FORECAST QUICKLY TRANSITIONED TOWARD A MORE  
ENSEMBLE MEAN-HEAVY BLEND, ESPECIALLY FROM THE GEFS MEAN, WHILE  
MAINTAINING A BIT OF 12Z GFS AND CMC IN THE BLEND.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE LOWER 48 WILL BE MOSTLY DRY ON TUESDAY, THOUGH WITH PERHAPS  
SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT AND INTERIOR NORTHEAST SNOW. BY LATER  
TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY, CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION SHOULD  
INCREASE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AS AN UPPER LOW SETTLES  
OVER THE SOUTHWEST/FOUR CORNERS AND MOISTURE INTERACTS WITH A  
FRONT. SOME OF THIS PRECIPITATION MAY BE SNOW FROM THE SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES EASTWARD, WITH TYPICAL ELEVATION/COVERAGE UNCERTAINTY.  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THURSDAY THERE, BUT INCREASING  
SPREAD FOR SPECIFICS OF WESTERN-CENTRAL U.S. FLOW ALOFT BY THE END  
OF THE WEEK LOWERS CONFIDENCE IN HOW PRECIPITATION MAY PROGRESS  
EASTWARD OVER THE PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY ON FRIDAY AND PERHAPS  
INTO THE SOUTHEAST ON SATURDAY. ACROSS FLORIDA, EXPECT EASTERLY  
FLOW TO SET UP SOUTH OF STRONG EASTERN U.S. HIGH PRESSURE WHILE  
MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY INCREASE FOR MIDWEEK AND BEYOND. A  
MARGINAL RISK IS PLANNED FOR THE DAY 5/THURSDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK FOR SOUTHEASTERN FLORIDA GIVEN THESE INGREDIENTS FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL ARE IN PLACE ATOP THE SENSITIVE URBAN CORRIDOR. MORE  
WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAINFALL MAY BE A CONCERN FOR LATE WEEK FOR  
FLORIDA, BUT THIS IS DEPENDENT ON LOW-PREDICTABILITY IMPULSES IN  
SOUTHERN STREAM FLOW AND WHETHER THEY ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT  
A SURFACE FEATURE. FARTHER WEST, A WEAKENING FRONT MAY BRING SOME  
LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AROUND MIDWEEK OR SO,  
WITH ONLY LIGHT/SCATTERED ACTIVITY EXTENDING FARTHER INLAND BY  
THURSDAY IF AT ALL. INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES ARE THEN  
POSSIBLE FOR CALIFORNIA BY SATURDAY AS AN EASTERN PACIFIC LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM EDGES CLOSER TO THE COAST.  
 
SOME COOL TEMPERATURES A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMAL ARE FORECAST  
ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST ON TUESDAY BEHIND A COLD FRONT, WITH NEAR  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES FARTHER NORTH. ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL  
BUILD ATOP THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. UNDERNEATH UPPER RIDGING THERE,  
LIKELY PEAKING THURSDAY ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND THE UPPER MIDWEST  
WITH TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES 15-25F ABOVE AVERAGE. SOME MILDER THAN  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES SHOULD PUSH INTO THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS  
AND THE NORTHEAST FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK BUT IN MODERATED  
FORM. MOST OF THE WEST WILL TEND TO SEE NEAR TO SOMEWHAT ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES. CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION OVER AND NEAR THE  
SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS MID-LATE WEEK WILL SUPPORT A FAIRLY NARROW  
TEMPERATURE RANGE (ABOVE NORMAL LOWS, BELOW NORMAL DAYTIME HIGHS).  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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