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FXUS02 KWBC 110711  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
211 AM EST MON DEC 11 2023  
 
VALID 12Z THU DEC 14 2023 - 12Z MON DEC 18 2023  
   
..AN EMERGING WET PATTERN OVER THE SOUTH/SOUTHEAST
 
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW TRAVERSING THE SOUTHERN U.S. DURING  
THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BE A PRIMARY DRIVER OF THE SENSIBLE  
WEATHER, INCLUDING RAIN AND SNOW IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS LATE THIS  
WEEK, WITH RAIN POTENTIALLY SPREADING INTO THE SOUTHEAST INTO THE  
WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK THOUGH WITH MORE UNCERTAINTY AS MODELS  
STRUGGLE TO AGREE ON A POSSIBLE GULF SURFACE LOW FORMING. AHEAD OF  
THIS POSSIBILITY, MOIST EASTERLY FLOW INTO SOUTHERN FLORIDA COULD  
CAUSE LOCALIZED HEAVY RAIN. FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE MID-UPPER FLOW IN  
THE NORTHERN STREAM IS LIKELY WITH A SERIES OF SHALLOW TROUGHS  
MOVING THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN U.S., WHILE MEAN  
RIDGING BUILDS IN THE WEST AHEAD OF EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGHING.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE FIRST SYSTEM OF NOTE FOR MODEL DIAGNOSTIC PURPOSES IS AN UPPER  
LOW LIKELY NEAR THE ARIZONA/NEW MEXICO BORDER AS THE PERIOD BEGINS  
EARLY THURSDAY. RECENT MODELS START OUT WITH REASONABLY GOOD  
AGREEMENT WITH ITS POSITION BUT SHOW INCREASING SPREAD WITH TIME.  
THE 12Z UKMET WAS THE FIRST TO DIVERGE FROM CONSENSUS WITH A  
SLOWER UPPER LOW TRACK THAN OTHER GUIDANCE BY FRIDAY, AND THUS WAS  
NOT PREFERRED IN THIS FORECAST. A COMPLICATION WITH THE WAY THIS  
UPPER LOW EVOLVES IS WITH A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE UPSTREAM  
THAT SHOULD MOVE NEAR THE U.S./CANADIAN BORDER THURSDAY-FRIDAY AND  
THEN POTENTIALLY DIVE SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
OVER THE WEEKEND. THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS SHORTWAVE WILL  
HAVE IMPLICATIONS DOWNSTREAM. NAMELY, THE GFS/GEFS SUITE LATELY  
HAS BEEN INTERACTING/COMBINING THE PREEXISTING SOUTHERN STREAM  
UPPER LOW AND THIS SHORTWAVE, WHICH FORMS AN EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
TROUGH THAT SUPPORTS A STRONG AND FASTER MOVING SURFACE LOW IN THE  
GULF AND PROGRESSING NORTHEASTWARD. THIS IS OPPOSED TO THE  
REMAINING MAJORITY THAT KEEPS THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE  
PROGRESSIVE AND NORTH OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW. WITHOUT  
THE PHASING OF THESE FEATURES, THE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW WILL  
BE SLOWER AND THE ONLY DYNAMICAL SUPPORT FOR SURFACE LOW PRESSURE,  
SO THE SURFACE LOW FORMS/STRENGTHENS LATER AND STAYS MORE  
SUPPRESSED. WPC HAS BEEN GENERALLY FAVORING THE MORE SUPPRESSED  
AND SLOWER TRACK GIVEN IT IS THE LARGER CLUSTER WITH MULTIPLE  
MODEL SUITES (THE ECMWF AND CMC). ENSEMBLE MEMBERS TEND TO FAVOR  
WITH THEIR OPERATIONAL RUNS BUT DO SHOW A LOT OF SPREAD.  
 
ELSEWHERE, UPPER RIDGING SEEMS WELL PREDICTED IN THE WEST BEHIND  
THESE FEATURES AND AHEAD OF LARGE SCALE EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGHING.  
THE TIMING OF THE TROUGHING EDGING TOWARD THE WEST COAST EARLY  
NEXT WEEK STILL SHOWS SOME SPREAD BUT NOTHING TOO EGREGIOUS FOR  
THE DAYS 6-7 TIMEFRAME.  
 
THUS THE WPC FORECAST STARTED WITH A BLEND OF THE 18Z GFS, 12Z  
ECMWF, AND 12Z CMC EARLY IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, BUT QUICKLY  
REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF THE GFS IN FAVOR OF THE ENSEMBLE MEAN  
GUIDANCE. THE 12Z CMC ACTUALLY SEEMED TO BE A REASONABLE MIDDLE  
GROUND FOR THE TRACK AND TIMING OF THE GULF LOW COMPARED TO THE  
FAST GFS AND THE ECMWF THAT BECAME PRETTY SLOW WITH LINGERING ITS  
UPPER AND SURFACE LOW FEATURES. TRANSITIONED TO USING HALF THE EC  
AND GEFS ENSEMBLE MEANS BY DAYS 6-7 GIVEN THE INCREASING SPREAD.  
REGARDING QPF, THE NBM SEEMED TO FAVOR A MORE GFS/GEFS-LIKE LOW  
TRACK WITH ITS PRECIPITATION FORECAST. SINCE THE PREFERENCE WAS  
FOR A MORE SUPPRESSED AND SLOWER SOLUTION WITH THE LOW, TONED DOWN  
THE HIGH TOTALS IT SHOWED OVER FLORIDA LATE WEEK.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW TRACKING ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST TO THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. LATE WEEK COMBINED WITH AMPLE MOISTURE WILL  
PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR WIDESPREAD RAIN IN TEXAS. MARGINAL RISKS ARE  
IN PLACE IN THE EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY  
AS UPPER-LEVEL DYNAMICAL SUPPORT WILL BE GOOD AND PRECIPITABLE  
WATER ANOMALIES ARE LIKELY TO BE NEAR/OVER THE 95TH PERCENTILE.  
INSTABILITY MAY BE SOMEWHAT MEAGER, BUT WITH THESE FACTORS AND  
POTENTIALLY WETTER GROUND FROM RAIN ON WEDNESDAY, SOME FLOODING  
RISK SEEMS POSSIBLE. ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD, SNOW IS LIKELY FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE SOUTHERN  
HIGH PLAINS INCLUDING MUCH OF THE EASTERN HALF OF NEW MEXICO AND  
INTO THE TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA PANHANDLES. MEANWHILE ON THURSDAY,  
MOIST EASTERLY FLOW WILL LIKELY PERSIST INTO SOUTHEASTERN FLORIDA  
WITH SOME INSTABILITY IN PLACE, SO A MARGINAL RISK PERSISTS FOR  
THAT AREA FROM WEDNESDAY/DAY 3, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SENSITIVE URBAN  
CORRIDOR. BY FRIDAY AND BEYOND, CONFIDENCE WITH THE EXTENT OF  
PRECIPITATION RAPIDLY LOWERS AS MODEL GUIDANCE DIVERGES. SOME  
MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN OVER FLORIDA AND THE  
SOUTHEAST BY LATE WEEK, BUT THE MORE FAVORED/LARGER CLUSTER OF  
GUIDANCE MAINTAINS A FOCUS FOR HEAVY RAINFALL IN THE SOUTHERN PART  
OF THE STATE (OR EVEN PERHAPS FULLY SOUTH OF FLORIDA) TO THE SOUTH  
OF HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE. THE WPC FORECAST SHOWS A MARGINAL  
RISK FOR FAR SOUTHERN FLORIDA INTO THE KEYS ON FRIDAY AS THERE IS  
POTENTIAL FOR AMPLE MOISTURE TO POOL THERE, BUT THIS WILL HAVE TO  
BE REFINED IN FUTURE FORECASTS DEPENDING ON MODEL TRENDS. FOR THE  
WEEKEND, SOME RAIN LOOKS TO SPREAD INTO THE SOUTHEAST, BUT THERE  
IS HIGH UNCERTAINTY PARTICULARLY WITH HOW FAR NORTH THE  
PRECIPITATION COULD SPREAD. AT THE VERY LEAST, TRENDS CONTINUE TO  
FAVOR A SLOWER NORTHWARD PROGRESSION OF MOISTURE THAN RECENT  
GFS/GEFS RUNS.  
 
ELSEWHERE, MAINLY DRY CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST THROUGH LATE WEEK,  
OTHER THAN SOME LIGHT SHOWERS IN THE UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT  
LAKES AND SOME PACIFIC NORTHWEST PRECIPITATION. BY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK, EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING COULD SNEAK ENERGY INTO  
CALIFORNIA AND SPREAD PRECIPITATION THERE, BUT THERE REMAINS  
UNCERTAINTY IN TIMING WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR WHICH AFFECTS THE  
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS. THE INTERIOR WEST IS FORECAST TO STAY DRY.  
 
MUCH OF THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE LOWER 48 EAST OF THE ROCKIES  
SHOULD SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES DURING THE PERIOD. EXPECT  
FAIRLY BROAD COVERAGE OF PLUS 10F OR GREATER ANOMALIES WHICH COULD  
SPREAD GRADUALLY FARTHER SOUTH BY THE WEEKEND, WITH WARMEST  
READINGS (15-25F ABOVE NORMAL) TENDING TO BE CENTERED OVER THE  
DAKOTAS INTO UPPER MIDWEST THURSDAY-SATURDAY. MEAN RIDGING ALOFT  
OVER THE WEST WILL FAVOR MODERATELY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND  
A VERY GRADUAL WARMING TREND WITH TIME. IN CONTRAST,  
CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK WILL  
PRODUCE CHILLY HIGHS OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS DURING THE  
LATTER PART OF THE WEEK. TEMPERATURES THERE SHOULD REBOUND CLOSER  
TO NORMAL NEXT WEEKEND. AREAS NEAR THE EAST COAST SHOULD SEE A DAY  
OR SO OF BELOW NORMAL HIGHS THURSDAY AS STRONG AND COOL HIGH  
PRESSURE BUILDS IN BEHIND A COLD FRONT. HIGHS OVER NORTHERN PARTS  
OF THE EAST SHOULD TREND ABOVE NORMAL FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND  
WHILE THE SOUTH STAYS NEAR NORMAL (BUT WITH FLORIDA ABOVE NORMAL  
FOR LOWS DUE TO PERSISTENT CLOUDS/RAINFALL).  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 

 
 
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