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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
214 AM EST TUE DEC 12 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI DEC 15 2023 - 12Z TUE DEC 19 2023  
   
..A WET PATTERN IS LIKELY OVER THE SOUTH/SOUTHEAST  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW TRAVERSING THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO  
SOUTHEASTERN U.S. DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BE A PRIMARY  
DRIVER OF THE SENSIBLE WEATHER, INCLUDING RAIN AND SNOW IN THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS LATE THIS WEEK. RAIN WILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD INTO  
THE SOUTHEAST INTO THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK, THOUGH WITH  
MORE UNCERTAINTY AS MODELS STRUGGLE TO AGREE ON A POSSIBLE GULF  
SURFACE LOW FORMING, IN PART DUE TO DIFFERENCES WITH POSSIBLE  
INTERACTION OF A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE. AHEAD OF THIS  
POSSIBILITY, MOIST EASTERLY FLOW INTO SOUTHERN FLORIDA COULD CAUSE  
LOCALIZED HEAVY RAIN INTO FRIDAY. FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE MID-UPPER  
FLOW IN THE NORTHERN STREAM IS LIKELY WITH A SERIES OF SHALLOW  
TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN U.S.,  
WHILE MEAN RIDGING BUILDS IN THE WEST AHEAD OF EASTERN PACIFIC  
TROUGHING.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE AGREEABLE WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM  
UPPER LOW SYSTEM INTO FRIDAY, BUT MODEL SPREAD RAPIDLY INCREASES  
INTO THE WEEKEND. MODELS HAVE BEEN WAFFLING OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS  
WITH THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE LIKELY  
MOVING SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS FRIDAY. THIS FEATURE  
MAY COMBINE WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW IN THE EAST-CENTRAL  
U.S. IN SOME WAY, AND MOST MODELS FROM THE 12/18Z MODEL SUITE AND  
NOW THE INCOMING 00Z HAVE TRENDED TOWARD SOME SORT OF COMBINATION.  
GFS RUNS INDICATE THE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY DROPPING SOUTH TO  
BECOME PART OF THE UPPER LOW, WHILE THE ECMWF AND CMC CREATE MORE  
OF A PHASED TROUGH FOR A TIME BEFORE ADDITIONAL SOUTHERN STREAM  
ENERGY COMES IN TO HELP CLOSE OFF A LOW (WITH DIFFERENT TIMING  
BETWEEN THE TWO). THESE DIFFERENCES ALOFT CREATE AMPLE DIFFERENCES  
IN MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS FOR A RESULTANT SURFACE LOW TRACK  
AND STRENGTH. A DAY AGO, GFS RUNS (WITH SOME GEFS MEMBER SUPPORT)  
WERE THE FASTEST AND FARTHEST NORTH TO BRING THE LOW TRACK ACROSS  
FLORIDA. NOW THE GFS RUNS HAVE SLOWED BUT STILL LOOK TO BE ON THE  
WEST SIDE OF THE SPREAD (RESULTING IN MORE QPF ONSHORE IN THE  
SOUTHEAST). MEANWHILE THE 12Z AND NEWER 00Z CMC SWITCHED TO THE  
FASTER SIDE OF THE SPREAD IN BRINGING A LOW NORTH. THE 12Z ECMWF  
SEEMED TO BE A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND IN TRACK/TIMING BUT THE 00Z  
ECMWF IS EVEN STRONGER AND FASTER IN BRINGING THE LOW NORTH AS A  
NOR'EASTER. CONFIDENCE IS VERY LOW IN THE LOW TRACK AND QPF GIVEN  
THE MODELS ARE IN SUCH FLUX. THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE IS  
CURRENTLY OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC, A CLASSIC DATA-DEVOID  
REGION THAT LEADS TO UNCERTAINTIES IN THE MODELS DOWNSTREAM.  
 
ELSEWHERE, UPPER RIDGING SEEMS WELL PREDICTED IN THE WEST BEHIND  
THESE FEATURES AND AHEAD OF LARGE SCALE EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGHING.  
THE TIMING OF THE TROUGHING EDGING TOWARD THE WEST COAST EARLY  
NEXT WEEK WITH AN INITIAL SHORTWAVE PERHAPS ENTERING THE LOWER 48  
MONDAY-TUESDAY STILL SHOWS SOME SPREAD BUT NOTHING TOO EGREGIOUS  
FOR THE DAYS 5-7 TIMEFRAME.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST STARTED WITH A BLEND OF DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE  
FAVORING THE ECMWF AND GFS, BUT WITH LESSENING AMOUNTS OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC MODELS IN FAVOR OF THE EC AND GEFS ENSEMBLE MEANS,  
REACHING OVER HALF ENSEMBLE MEANS BY DAYS 6-7. EXPECT CHANGES TO  
THE FORECAST THAT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT IN FUTURE CYCLES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE UPPER LOW TRAVERSING THE SOUTHERN U.S. COMBINED WITH AMPLE  
MOISTURE ADVECTING NORTHWARD WILL LEAD TO WIDESPREAD RAIN ACROSS  
TEXAS AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS FRIDAY. INSTABILITY MAY BE  
SOMEWHAT LIMITED EXCEPT RIGHT NEAR THE GULF COAST, BUT THE  
DYNAMICAL SUPPORT THE UPPER LOW PROVIDES COULD LEAD TO HEAVY  
ENOUGH RAIN TO CAUSE SOME FLOODING ISSUES, SO A MARGINAL RISK IS  
IN PLACE IN THE EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK FOR THE EASTERN HALF OF  
TEXAS AND INTO WESTERN LOUISIANA ON FRIDAY. THERE MAY BE SOME  
LINGERING SNOW ON THE NORTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD IN THE TEXAS PANHANDLE, BUT MOST OF THE SNOW CHANCE HAS  
PHASED INTO THE SHORT RANGE/THURSDAY NOW. BY SATURDAY THERE IS  
INCREASING UNCERTAINTY WITH HOW MUCH RAIN FALLS ONSHORE VERSUS  
OFFSHORE IN THE CENTRAL GULF. THIS ITERATION OF THE WPC FORECAST  
TRENDED DOWN IN RAIN TOTALS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND  
SOUTHEAST AS MODEL GUIDANCE IS REDUCED WITH AMOUNTS OTHER THAN  
RIGHT ALONG THE COAST. A MARGINAL RISK IS PLANNED FOR SATURDAY FOR  
COASTAL AREAS OF LOUISIANA WHERE THE BEST CHANCE OF HEAVY RAIN IS  
(COINCIDENT WITH SOME INSTABILITY) BUT THIS MAY NEED TO BE  
EXPANDED IF MODELS TREND NORTH, OR REMOVED IF THEY TREND SOUTH.  
THE SAME TYPE OF FORECAST ISSUE IS SEEN ACROSS FLORIDA, WHERE  
THERE IS UNCERTAINTY WITH PLACEMENT OF HEAVY RAIN ON THE SOUTHERN  
SIDE OF A STRONG SURFACE HIGH IN EASTERLY FLOW. FOR FRIDAY A  
MARGINAL RISK REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA TO THE KEYS  
WHERE THE BEST MODEL COMPROMISE FOR HEAVY RAIN IS, BUT THERE IS  
POTENTIAL THAT PRECIPITATION COULD FOCUS NORTH OR SOUTH. THIS LOW  
CONFIDENCE CONTINUES FURTHER INTO SATURDAY AS THE UPPER LEVELS AND  
SURFACE LOW TRACK STILL SHOW MODEL SPREAD. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS  
IS THAT SOME HEAVY RAIN SHOULD BE SPREADING NORTH BY SATURDAY, SO  
A MARGINAL RISK REFLECTS THIS. PRECIPITATION REACHING FARTHER  
NORTH ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IS QUITE  
UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME.  
 
ELSEWHERE, A CLIPPER SYSTEM SHOULD SPREAD RAIN AND SNOW TO THE  
UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT LAKES ON FRIDAY AND PERHAPS LINGERING  
INTO SATURDAY. LIGHT PACIFIC NORTHWEST PRECIPITATION IS ALSO  
POSSIBLE. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING  
SHOULD SNEAK ENERGY AND PERHAPS AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER INTO  
CALIFORNIA AND SPREAD PRECIPITATION THERE, BUT THERE REMAINS  
UNCERTAINTY IN TIMING WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR, WHICH AFFECTS THE  
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS. THE INTERIOR WEST IS FORECAST TO STAY DRY.  
 
THE NORTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE LOWER 48 SHOULD SEE NEAR TO ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES LATE WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH  
TEMPERATURES 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE PERIODICALLY AFFECTING THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. THE WEST CAN  
ALSO EXPECT GENERALLY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES UNDERNEATH UPPER  
RIDGING. COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL BE LIMITED TO THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS (IN TERMS OF HIGHS) EASTWARD INTO THE SOUTHEAST  
LATE WEEK, MODERATING CLOSER TO NORMAL BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THOUGH  
FLORIDA COULD STILL SEE BELOW NORMAL HIGHS BEHIND MULTIPLE FRONTAL  
PASSAGES.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
 
 
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