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FXUS02 KWBC 121859  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
158 PM EST TUE DEC 12 2023  
 
VALID 12Z FRI DEC 15 2023 - 12Z TUE DEC 19 2023  
 
...A WET PATTERN IS LIKELY OVER THE SOUTH/SOUTHEAST AND  
POTENTIALLY UP THE EAST COAST THIS WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW TRAVERSING THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO  
SOUTHEASTERN U.S. DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WILL BE A PRIMARY  
DRIVER OF THE SENSIBLE WEATHER, INCLUDING RAIN AND SNOW IN THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS LATE THIS WEEK. RAIN WILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD INTO  
THE SOUTHEAST INTO THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK, THOUGH WITH  
MORE UNCERTAINTY AS MODELS STRUGGLE TO AGREE ON A POSSIBLE GULF  
SURFACE LOW FORMING AND POSSIBLY LIFTING UP THE EAST COAST, IN  
PART DUE TO DIFFERENCES WITH POSSIBLE INTERACTION OF A NORTHERN  
STREAM SHORTWAVE. AHEAD OF THIS POSSIBILITY, MOIST EASTERLY FLOW  
INTO SOUTHERN FLORIDA COULD CAUSE LOCALIZED HEAVY RAIN INTO  
FRIDAY. FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE MID-UPPER FLOW IN THE NORTHERN STREAM  
IS LIKELY WITH A SERIES OF SHALLOW TROUGHS MOVING THROUGH THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN U.S., WHILE MEAN RIDGING BUILDS IN  
THE WEST AHEAD OF EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGHING.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THROUGH THE 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE, THERE CONTINUES TO BE GOOD AGREEMENT  
ON THE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW SYSTEM INTO FRIDAY, BUT A LOT OF  
MODEL SPREAD INTO THE WEEKEND AS THIS SYSTEM MAY BEGIN TO INTERACT  
WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE. THE GFS IS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF  
KEEPING THE TWO SYSTEMS SEPARATE WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM ONE  
BECOMING MORE DOMINANT EVENTUALLY, WHILE THE 00Z RUN OF THE ECMWF  
WAS SHOWING THE OPPOSITE - WEAKENING THE SOUTHERN LOW RAPIDLY AS  
THE NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEM SWINGS THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST. THIS  
CREATES DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS AT THE SURFACE WITH  
THE ECMWF SUGGESTING A RAPIDLY DEEPENING CYCLONE MOVING VERY  
QUICKLY UP THE COAST, WHILE THE GFS IS CONSIDERABLY SLOWER (BUT  
STILL SUPPORTIVE OF LOW PRESSURE). HOWEVER, THE NEW 12Z RUN OF THE  
ECMWF (WHICH WAS AVAILABLE AFTER FORECAST GENERATION TIME) CAME IN  
VERY DIFFERENT FROM IT'S PREVIOUS RUN AND MORE IN LINE WITH THE  
GFS WITH A WEAKER AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING OFF THE EAST COAST.  
THE CMC IS GENERALLY IN LINE WITH THIS IDEA TOO, BUT THE UKMET IS  
THE STRONGEST WITH A VERY DEEP LOW OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST ON DAY  
6/MONDAY. GIVEN THIS IS STILL 5 OR MORE DAYS OUT, CONFIDENCE IS  
NOT HIGH WITH REGARDS TO THIS SYSTEM, AND THERE IS STILL A LOT OF  
TIME FOR THE GUIDANCE TO CHANGE STILL. THE WPC BLEND FROM THIS  
MORNING WAS BASED ON THE LATEST 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE AND GENERALLY  
USED A MODEL COMPROMISE THROUGH DAY 4. DAY 5 AND BEYOND, INCREASED  
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AMIDST GROWING SPREAD, ALONG  
WITH WPC CONTINUITY.  
 
ELSEWHERE, TROUGHING MOVING INTO THE WEST COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK  
SHOWS GOOD AGREEMENT, BUT PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS. A  
GENERAL BLEND OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE UPPER LOW TRAVERSING THE SOUTHERN U.S. COMBINED WITH AMPLE  
MOISTURE ADVECTING NORTHWARD WILL LEAD TO WIDESPREAD RAIN ACROSS  
TEXAS AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS FRIDAY. INSTABILITY MAY BE  
SOMEWHAT LIMITED EXCEPT RIGHT NEAR THE GULF COAST, BUT THE  
DYNAMICAL SUPPORT THE UPPER LOW PROVIDES COULD LEAD TO HEAVY  
ENOUGH RAIN TO CAUSE SOME LOCALIZED FLOODING ISSUES, SO A MARGINAL  
RISK REMAINS IN PLACE IN THE EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK FOR PARTS  
OF EAST TEXAS AND INTO WESTERN LOUISIANA ON FRIDAY. THERE MAY BE  
SOME LINGERING SNOW ON THE NORTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD IN THE TEXAS PANHANDLE, BUT MOST OF THE SNOW CHANCE HAS  
PHASED INTO THE SHORT RANGE/THURSDAY NOW. BY SATURDAY THERE IS  
INCREASING UNCERTAINTY WITH HOW MUCH RAIN FALLS ONSHORE VERSUS  
OFFSHORE IN THE CENTRAL GULF. THIS ITERATION OF THE WPC FORECAST  
ACTUALLY TRENDED UP IN RAIN TOTALS ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE  
SOUTHEAST BASED ON LATEST MODEL TRENDS. A MARGINAL RISK IS PLANNED  
FOR SATURDAY FOR COASTAL AREAS OF LOUISIANA WHERE THE BEST CHANCE  
OF HEAVY RAIN IS (COINCIDENT WITH SOME INSTABILITY) BUT THIS MAY  
NEED TO BE ADJUSTED FURTHER DEPENDING ON LATEST MODEL TRENDS. THE  
SAME TYPE OF FORECAST ISSUE IS SEEN ACROSS FLORIDA, WHERE THERE IS  
UNCERTAINTY WITH PLACEMENT OF HEAVY RAIN ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF A  
STRONG SURFACE HIGH IN EASTERLY FLOW. FOR FRIDAY A MARGINAL RISK  
REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA TO THE KEYS WHERE THE BEST  
MODEL COMPROMISE FOR HEAVY RAIN IS, BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT  
PRECIPITATION COULD FOCUS NORTH OR SOUTH. THIS LOW CONFIDENCE  
CONTINUES FURTHER INTO SATURDAY AS THE UPPER LEVELS AND SURFACE  
LOW TRACK STILL SHOW MODEL SPREAD. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT  
SOME HEAVY RAIN SHOULD BE SPREADING NORTH BY SATURDAY, SO A  
MARGINAL RISK REFLECTS THIS. PRECIPITATION REACHING FARTHER NORTH  
ALONG THE EASTERN SEABOARD INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IS QUITE UNCERTAIN  
AT THIS TIME BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAINFALL.  
 
ELSEWHERE, A CLIPPER SYSTEM SHOULD SPREAD RAIN AND SNOW TO THE  
UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT LAKES ON FRIDAY AND PERHAPS LINGERING  
INTO SATURDAY. LIGHT PACIFIC NORTHWEST PRECIPITATION IS ALSO  
POSSIBLE. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER TROUGHING  
SHOULD SNEAK ENERGY AND PERHAPS AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER INTO  
CALIFORNIA AND SPREAD PRECIPITATION THERE, BUT THERE REMAINS  
UNCERTAINTY IN TIMING WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR, WHICH AFFECTS THE  
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS. THE INTERIOR WEST IS FORECAST TO STAY DRY.  
 
THE NORTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE LOWER 48 SHOULD SEE NEAR TO ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES LATE WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH  
TEMPERATURES 10-20F ABOVE AVERAGE PERIODICALLY AFFECTING THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. THE WEST CAN  
ALSO EXPECT GENERALLY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES UNDERNEATH UPPER  
RIDGING. COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL BE LIMITED TO THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS (IN TERMS OF HIGHS) EASTWARD INTO THE SOUTHEAST  
LATE WEEK, MODERATING CLOSER TO NORMAL BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, THOUGH  
FLORIDA COULD STILL SEE BELOW NORMAL HIGHS BEHIND MULTIPLE FRONTAL  
PASSAGES.  
 
SANTORELLI/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST, EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK,  
WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK PROBABILITIES, HEAT INDICES AND KEY  
MESSAGES ARE AT:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
 
 
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