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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
331 AM EDT SAT APR 27 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE APR 30 2024 - 12Z SAT MAY 04 2024  
 
...ROUNDS OF CONVECTION ARE LIKELY IN THE CENTRAL U.S. FOR MUCH OF  
NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY, QUASI-ZONAL UPPER FLOW  
WILL BE IN PLACE OVER MUCH OF THE LOWER 48, BUT EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES  
COULD PUSH FRONTAL SYSTEMS THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. AND  
CAUSE SOME SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. MEAN TROUGHING IS FORECAST TO  
AMPLIFY IN THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY AND PROVIDE  
SUPPORT FOR INCREASING CONVECTION OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL U.S.,  
WITH HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING POSSIBLE HAZARDS. A GRADUAL  
SHIFT EAST WITH THE CONVECTION IS LIKELY INTO LATE WEEK.  
PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SOME HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW IS POSSIBLE  
ACROSS THE NORTHWEST INTO THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES, BUT WITH  
RATHER LOW PREDICTABILITY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
RECENT MODEL GUIDANCE IS FORTUNATELY IN BETTER AGREEMENT THAN A  
DAY AGO REGARDING ENERGY ACROSS THE NORTHWESTERN U.S./BRITISH  
COLUMBIA ON TUESDAY. THERE IS A GENERAL THEME OF SOME ENERGY  
DEVELOPING A CLOSED LOW AND PRESSING EAST NEAR THE U.S./CANADIAN  
BORDER WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY WHILE SECONDARY ENERGY CAUSES A TROUGH TO  
DIG INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. OPERATIONAL MODELS AND AI/MACHINE  
LEARNING MODELS SHOW SOME VARIABILITY IN HOW SEPARATE OR PHASED  
THESE FEATURES MAY BE, BUT GENERALLY WITHIN TYPICAL SPREAD FOR THE  
MEDIUM RANGE. THERE IS ALSO SOME MODEL SPREAD IN HOW DEEP THE  
TROUGH MAY DIG IN THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND PUSHING TOWARD THE  
PLAINS BY FRIDAY. THE 18Z GFS WAS QUITE AGGRESSIVE WITH A  
DEEPER/NEUTRALLY (RATHER THAN POSITIVELY) TILTED TROUGH AND A  
RESULTANT SURFACE LOW TRACK FARTHER WEST COMPARED TO OTHER  
GUIDANCE. THUS FOR THESE FEATURES, PREFERRED A MODEL BLEND OF THE  
12Z ECMWF/GFS/CMC. THE NEWER 00Z GFS LOOKED MORE IN LINE WITH OTHER  
GUIDANCE.  
 
UPSTREAM, THERE ARE EVEN LARGER MODEL DIFFERENCES ACROSS THE  
NORTHWESTERN U.S. BY THURSDAY THAT LEAD TO DYNAMICAL  
MODELS/ENSEMBLES/ML MODELS SHOWING OUT OF PHASE SOLUTIONS. EARLY  
THURSDAY, MOST 12/18Z DETERMINISTIC MODELS INDICATED A RIDGE OVER  
THE WEST COAST WHILE THEY HELD AN UPPER LOW FARTHER NORTH INTO  
WESTERN CANADA COMPARED TO PREVIOUS RUNS. MOST OF THE 12Z ML MODELS  
ALSO SUPPORTED THIS RIDGE SOLUTION. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS PERSISTED IN INDICATING TROUGHING ATOP THE NORTHWEST  
MORE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS RUNS. INDIVIDUAL ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
SHOW AMPLE SPREAD. HAVING TO CHOOSE A CAMP, PREFERRED THE  
DETERMINISTIC AND ML TYPE SOLUTIONS WITH RIDGING OVER THE  
NORTHWEST, THINKING THAT THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE LAGGING THE TREND.  
THE WPC MODEL BLEND MAINTAINED MORE DETERMINISTIC COMPONENTS THAN  
NORMAL FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE PERIOD, ESPECIALLY THE ECMWF.  
HOWEVER, THIS MAY HAVE BEEN THE WRONG CHOICE GIVEN THE INCOMING 00Z  
MODELS GENERALLY SHOW TROUGHING (THOUGH THINK THE 00Z CMC MAY BE  
TOO AGGRESSIVE WITH ITS COMPACT CLOSED LOW). THERE MAY NEED TO BE  
SOME CHANGES MADE WITH FRONTAL AND PRECIPITATION TIMING IN FUTURE  
FORECASTS BECAUSE OF THIS. BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL  
UNCERTAINTIES WITH NORTHERN PACIFIC AND CANADIAN FLOW AFFECTING  
THE WEST. THUS PREDICTABILITY AND CONFIDENCE ARE SOMEWHAT LOW FOR  
THE PATTERN IN THE WESTERN AND CENTRAL U.S. AFTER MIDWEEK.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
ON TUESDAY, LESSENING UPPER-LEVEL SUPPORT SHOULD LEAD TO LOWER  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND RAINFALL RATES IN THE CENTRAL U.S. COMPARED  
EARLIER AND LATER IN THE WEEK. HOWEVER, SOME CONVECTION IS STILL  
LIKELY TO OCCUR IN A MOIST AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT. CURRENTLY THE  
BEST CHANCE FOR RAIN WITH ISOLATED FLOODING POTENTIAL IS ACROSS THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS TO MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS A FRONT STALLS.  
WITHIN THAT REGION THERE IS SOME SPREAD IN LOCATION OF LOCALLY  
HEAVY CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL--GFS RUNS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT IN  
SHOWING CONVECTION NEAR THE RED RIVER WHILE OTHER MODELS INDICATE  
LOCAL MAXIMA FARTHER NORTH. A DAY 4 MARGINAL RISK IS IN PLACE IN  
THE ERO TO COVER THESE AREAS AND WILL BE REFINED WITH TIME.  
HOWEVER, RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE TRENDED DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD  
FARTHER SOUTH IN TEXAS AND LOUISIANA, SO A MARGINAL RISK THAT WAS  
IN PLACE THERE ON WHAT IS NOW DAY 4 WAS REMOVED. BY WEDNESDAY, THE  
UPPER FLOW( WITH TROUGHING TO THE WEST AND A SOUTHERN STREAM  
SHORTWAVE) WILL BECOME MORE SUPPORTIVE OF MORE WIDESPREAD AND HEAVY  
RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS FOR THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND  
MID/LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS MOISTURE SURGES AHEAD OF A WAVY  
FRONTAL SYSTEM. ONCE AGAIN THERE IS SPREAD IN THE EXACT POSITION OF  
THE HEAVIEST TOTALS, BUT RAIN AMOUNTS OF 3-5 INCHES ARE LIKELY,  
AND SOME AREAS OF HEAVY RAIN ARE LIKELY TO OVERLAP WITH  
CURRENT/SHORT RANGE HEAVY RAINFALL AREAS. A LARGE SLIGHT RISK WILL  
SERVE AS A STARTING POINT FOR THE DAY 5/WEDNESDAY ERO ESPECIALLY  
GIVEN THE LIKELY SENSITIVITY OF THESE AREAS DUE TO WET ANTECEDENT  
CONDITIONS. EXPECT A SLOW TREND OF THE RAIN/THUNDERSTORMS EASTWARD  
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS THE FRONT PRESSES EAST.  
 
ELSEWHERE, ONE OR MORE SHORTWAVES/UPPER LOWS WILL LEAD TO ROUNDS  
OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER. ON TUESDAY, AMPLE  
MOISTURE WITH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES OVER THE 90TH OR EVEN 95TH  
PERCENTILE WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN U.S., WITH RAIN  
AND THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY. A SHORTWAVE ALOFT MOVING THROUGH AND  
SOME INSTABILITY IN PLACE COULD LEAD TO HEAVY RAINFALL CAUSING  
ISOLATED FLOODING CONCERNS, SO ADDED A MARGINAL RISK CENTERED IN  
UPSTATE NEW YORK WITH ITS FOOTPRINT STRETCHING A BIT INTO THE  
NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND ON DAY 4/TUESDAY.  
MEANWHILE THE NORTHWEST AND INTO THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ROCKIES  
COULD GET ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION, INCLUDING HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW.  
GUIDANCE IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRENDING, BUT SUGGESTS THE  
POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF ENHANCED NORTHERN ROCKIES/PLAINS  
PRECIPITATION THAT WILL BE WORTH MONITORING. TIMING AND AMOUNTS OF  
PRECIPITATION WILL DEPEND ON THE EVENTUAL UNCERTAIN EVOLUTION OF  
THE UPPER AND SURFACE PATTERN.  
 
TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. ALL THE WAY TO THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD WILL BE WARMER THAN AVERAGE BY GENERALLY 10-15F ON  
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, WHILE COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE  
LIKELY FOR THE NORTHWESTERN QUADRANT OF THE LOWER 48. THEN  
TROUGHING AND A COLD FRONT PUSHING FROM THE NORTHWEST SHOULD COOL  
TEMPERATURES TO NEAR OR BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. BY  
THURSDAY AND REACHING THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.  
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF A WARMUP ACROSS THE WEST LATE WEEK, BUT  
THE GUIDANCE SPREAD IS STILL YIELDING LOWER THAN AVERAGE CONFIDENCE  
IN THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST THERE.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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