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FXUS02 KWBC 271859  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 PM EDT SAT APR 27 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE APR 30 2024 - 12Z SAT MAY 04 2024  
 
...ROUNDS OF CONVECTION ARE LIKELY IN THE CENTRAL U.S. FOR MUCH OF  
NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY, QUASI-ZONAL UPPER FLOW  
WILL BE IN PLACE OVER MUCH OF THE LOWER 48, BUT EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES  
COULD PUSH FRONTAL SYSTEMS THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. AND  
CAUSE SOME SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. MEAN TROUGHING SHOULD AMPLIFY  
OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY AND PROVIDE SUPPORT  
FOR INCREASING CONVECTION OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL U.S., WITH  
HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING AMONG THE POSSIBLE HAZARDS. THIS  
CONVECTION WILL LIKELY SHIFT GRADUALLY EASTWARD INTO LATE WEEK.  
PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SOME HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW IS POSSIBLE  
ACROSS THE NORTHWEST INTO THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES, BUT WITH  
RATHER LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS AT THIS TIME.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
WHILE GUIDANCE RUNS SINCE THE 12Z/26 RUN APPEAR TO HAVE RESOLVED  
MOST OF THE PRIOR DIVERGENCE FOR THE INITIAL UPPER LOW ENERGY (MOST  
LIKELY COMPRISING TWO SEPARATE CENTERS) ALONG THE WESTERN  
U.S.-CANADIAN BORDER, THERE IS STILL A LOT OF SPREAD FOR WHAT  
BECOMES OF THE WESTERN HALF OF THE FEATURE AS WELL AS UPSTREAM  
DETAILS.  
 
RECENT TRENDS, INCLUDING FROM ECMWF-INITIALIZED MACHINE LEARNING  
MODELS (MLS), SUPPORT FAIRLY AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGHING OVER THE  
WEST BY WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. HOWEVER FROM THAT POINT BOTH DYNAMICAL  
GUIDANCE AND THE MLS DIVERGE FOR TIMING AND SHAPE AS THE FEATURE  
EJECTS FROM THE WEST, AFFECTING THE SURFACE EVOLUTION. THE 06Z GFS  
APPEARED TO BE SOMEWHAT ON THE FAST SIDE OF THE SPREAD BUT  
OTHERWISE THE ENVELOPE WAS BROAD ENOUGH TO PRECLUDE DISCOUNTING  
MANY SOLUTIONS. 12Z MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO DIFFER BY AT LEAST A DAY  
FOR TIMING OF THE UPPER SYSTEM BY NEXT FRIDAY, WITH CORRESPONDING  
EFFECTS ON THE PLAINS INTO GREAT LAKES SURFACE DEVELOPMENT THAT  
MOST GUIDANCE IS SHOWING. FARTHER EAST THE ONE ITEM OF NOTE IS THAT  
UKMET RUNS ARE NOTABLY AGGRESSIVE WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY CROSSING  
NEW ENGLAND AROUND THURSDAY WHEN CONSENSUS SHOWS MORE UPPER  
RIDGING.  
 
THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE SPREAD FOR A COMPACT UPPER LOW EXPECTED  
TO REACH WESTERN NORTH AMERICA BY THURSDAY. THE NEW 12Z GFS/CMC  
RUNS MAINTAIN THEIR THEME FROM PRIOR RUNS IN SHOWING A TRACK INTO  
WASHINGTON STATE WHILE THE ECMWF IS WELL NORTH OVER BRITISH  
COLUMBIA. THE UKMET FLIPPED FROM THE GFS CLUSTER IN THE 00Z RUN TO  
SHEARING IT OUT NORTH OF THE ECMWF IN THE 12Z RUN. THE GEFS/ECENS  
MEANS NOT SURPRISINGLY WEAKEN THE FEATURE AS IT ARRIVES BUT WOULD  
IMPLY A SOMEWHAT FARTHER NORTH TRACK THAN THE GFS CLUSTER. THE 00Z  
MLS WERE UNANIMOUS WITH A BRITISH COLUMBIA TRACK. PREFERENCE LEANS  
TO THE ECMWF/ML CLUSTER. INTERESTINGLY THE GUIDANCE GETS A LITTLE  
CLOSER TOGETHER BY FRIDAY AS THE ECMWF/ML CLUSTER DROPS THE UPPER  
LOW SOUTHEAST TO AROUND THE CANADIAN BORDER. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS  
FEATURE MAY ULTIMATELY HAVE SOME INFLUENCE ON DETAILS OF FLOW TO  
THE EAST.  
 
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES CONTINUE AS ANOTHER UPPER TROUGH (WITH  
POSSIBLE LOW) APPROACHES THE NORTHWEST. THE 06Z GFS WAS ON THE  
EASTERN SIDE OF THE SPREAD IN BRINGING A DEEP UPPER LOW INTO  
WASHINGTON STATE. MEANWHILE THE MLS ON AVERAGE SHOW AN INTERMEDIATE  
IDEA BETWEEN THE DEEP AND SOMETIMES EASTWARD GFS RUNS VERSUS THE  
SLOWER/FLATTER ECMWF AND ECENS MEAN RUNS. THE MLS ARE ACTUALLY  
REMARKABLY AGREEABLE IN SHOWING THE ASSOCIATED SURFACE FRONT  
SOMEWHAT OFFSHORE THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AS OF EARLY SATURDAY. AS  
EXPECTED, GEFS/EC/CMC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW CONSIDERABLE SPREAD FOR  
THIS AND AFOREMENTIONED FEATURES.  
 
IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE VARIOUS FEATURES OF  
INTEREST, THE UPDATED FORECAST STARTED WITH A 00Z/06Z OPERATIONAL  
MODEL COMPOSITE EARLY IN THE PERIOD. THEN THE BLEND ELIMINATED THE  
UKMET BY THURSDAY, FOLLOWED BY SPLITTING GFS/ECMWF INPUT BETWEEN  
CONSECUTIVE 6-/12-HOURLY RUNS AND INCORPORATING 20-40 PERCENT TOTAL  
OF THE 06Z GEFS/00Z ECENS MEANS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
ON TUESDAY, LESSENING UPPER-LEVEL SUPPORT SHOULD LEAD TO LOWER  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND RAINFALL RATES IN THE CENTRAL U.S. COMPARED  
EARLIER AND LATER IN THE WEEK. HOWEVER, SOME CONVECTION IS STILL  
LIKELY TO OCCUR IN A MOIST AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT. CURRENTLY THE  
BEST CHANCE FOR RAIN WITH ISOLATED FLOODING POTENTIAL IS ACROSS THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS TO MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS A FRONT STALLS.  
WITHIN THAT REGION THERE IS SOME SPREAD IN LOCATION OF LOCALLY  
HEAVY CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL--GFS RUNS (INCLUDING THE NEW 12Z  
VERSION) HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT IN SHOWING CONVECTION NEAR THE RED  
RIVER WHILE OTHER MODELS INDICATE LOCAL MAXIMA FARTHER NORTH. A DAY  
4 MARGINAL RISK IS IN PLACE IN THE ERO TO COVER THESE AREAS AND  
WILL BE REFINED WITH TIME. SOME ISOLATED MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY  
RAIN MAY BE POSSIBLE ALONG/NORTH OF THE TEXAS AND LOUISIANA COAST  
BUT WHAT SIGNAL EXISTS REMAINS DIFFUSE ENOUGH NOT TO MERIT A RISK  
AREA (MAINTAINING THE PRIOR CYCLE'S REDUCTION THAT FAVORED AN  
EARLIER MARGINAL RISK AREA). BY WEDNESDAY, THE UPPER FLOW (WITH  
TROUGHING TO THE WEST AND A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE) WILL BECOME  
MORE SUPPORTIVE OF MORE WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS FOR  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS AND MID/LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AS  
MOISTURE SURGES AHEAD OF A WAVY FRONTAL SYSTEM. ONCE AGAIN THERE IS  
SPREAD IN THE EXACT POSITION OF THE HEAVIEST TOTALS, BUT RAIN  
AMOUNTS OF 3-5 INCHES ARE LIKELY, AND SOME AREAS OF HEAVY RAIN ARE  
LIKELY TO OVERLAP WITH CURRENT/SHORT RANGE HEAVY RAINFALL  
LOCATIONS. THE DAY 5/WEDNESDAY ERO UPDATE INCORPORATED LATEST  
GUIDANCE TO YIELD ONLY MILD ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE ESTABLISHED SLIGHT  
RISK AREA EXTENDING FROM PARTS OF TEXAS INTO SOUTHERN IOWA. WITHIN  
THIS RISK AREA, THERE MAY BE SOMEWHAT GREATER POTENTIAL BETWEEN  
KANSAS AND IOWA GIVEN PROXIMITY TO THE STALLING SURFACE FRONT.  
THERE IS A LITTLE MORE SPREAD FARTHER SOUTH. THIS OVERALL REGION  
WILL BE SENSITIVE DUE TO WET ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS AND POTENTIAL  
FOR EMBEDDED UPGRADES WILL BE POSSIBLE DEPENDING ON DETAILS OF  
PRIOR CONVECTION AND HOW GUIDANCE CONSOLIDATES FOR AMOUNTS/LOCATION  
OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL. EXPECT A SLOW TREND OF THE  
RAIN/THUNDERSTORMS EASTWARD THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEK,  
CORRESPONDING TO PROGRESSION OF THE SURFACE FRONT.  
 
ELSEWHERE, ONE OR MORE SHORTWAVES AND UPPER LOWS WILL LEAD TO  
ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER. ON TUESDAY, AMPLE  
MOISTURE WITH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES OVER THE 90TH OR EVEN 95TH  
PERCENTILE WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN U.S., WITH  
RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY. A SHORTWAVE ALOFT MOVING THROUGH  
(WITH ASSOCIATED WAVY SURFACE REFLECTION) AND SOME INSTABILITY IN  
PLACE COULD LEAD TO HEAVY RAINFALL CAUSING ISOLATED FLOODING  
CONCERNS, SO THE DAY 4/THURSDAY ERO MAINTAINS THE PREVIOUSLY  
INTRODUCED MARGINAL RISK AREA CENTERED IN UPSTATE NEW YORK WITH  
ITS FOOTPRINT STRETCHING A BIT INTO THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC AND  
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. MEANWHILE THE NORTHWEST AND INTO THE NORTHERN  
AND CENTRAL ROCKIES COULD GET ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE  
WEEK, INCLUDING HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW. THERE IS STILL SOME  
POTENTIAL FOR ONE OR MORE AREAS OF LOCALLY ENHANCED TOTALS BUT  
RESOLVING SPECIFICS FOR IMPORTANT DETAILS OF THE SUPPORTING UPPER  
AND SURFACE PATTERN CONTINUES TO BE A CHALLENGE. A FRONT NEARING  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST MAY BRING SOME PRECIPITATION TO THE  
REGION BY NEXT SATURDAY.  
 
TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. ALL THE WAY TO THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD WILL BE WARMER THAN AVERAGE BY GENERALLY 10-15F  
ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, WHILE COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE  
LIKELY FOR THE NORTHWESTERN QUADRANT OF THE LOWER 48. THEN UPPER  
TROUGHING AND A COLD FRONT PUSHING FROM THE NORTHWEST SHOULD COOL  
TEMPERATURES TO NEAR OR BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. BY  
THURSDAY AND REACHING THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.  
TEMPERATURES OVER THE WEST MAY REBOUND TO NEAR NORMAL OR MODERATELY  
ABOVE NORMAL LEVELS BY LATE WEEK, BUT CONFIDENCE REMAINS LOWER  
THAN AVERAGE GIVEN CONTINUED GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR UPPER FLOW  
DETAILS.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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