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FXUS02 KWBC 290700  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT MON APR 29 2024  
 
VALID 12Z THU MAY 02 2024 - 12Z MON MAY 06 2024  
 
...WIDESPREAD RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE LIKELY IN THE CENTRAL U.S.  
THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS THURSDAY, MEAN TROUGHING  
AMPLIFYING ATOP THE ROCKIES WILL PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR WIDESPREAD  
CONVECTION AS MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY SPREAD INTO THE CENTRAL U.S.  
AND CAUSE HEAVY RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING. LIFTING UPPER TROUGHING  
MOVING EAST BY FRIDAY SHOULD PUSH RAIN CHANCES INTO THE EAST-  
CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S., THOUGH SOME MAY REMAIN OVER THE SOUTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. THIS WEEKEND NEAR A LINGERING FRONTAL BOUNDARY.  
ADDITIONALLY, ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SOME HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW ARE POSSIBLE AT TIMES ACROSS THE NORTHWEST INTO THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES, BUT CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAILS IS STILL  
LOWER THAN DESIRED GIVEN AMPLE SPREAD IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
TROUGHING ACROSS THE WEST AND RIDGING ACROSS THE EAST WILL BE THE  
MAIN THEME EARLY IN THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD, BUT EVEN THURSDAY-  
FRIDAY THERE ARE SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES WITHIN THIS OVERALL  
PATTERN. THE CORE OF THE UPPER TROUGH/LOW SHOULD BE LOCATED IN THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS/SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA, BUT MODELS SHOW DISCREPANCIES  
ON THE SOUTHWARD EXTENT OF THE TROUGH AS IT PIVOTS EASTWARD. GFS  
RUNS (PARTICULARLY THE 12Z) AND THE 12Z UKMET DUG THE TROUGH DEEPER  
THAN THE 12Z ECMWF/CMC. NOW THE NEWER 00Z GFS IS NOT AS DEEP AND  
IS MORE AGREEABLE WITH THE EC/CMC, BUT THE 00Z UKMET STAYED DEEP  
AND SEEMS TO BE MORE CLEARLY AN OUTLIER. MEANWHILE A SMALLER  
SHORTWAVE/COMPACT UPPER LOW UPSTREAM SHOWS SOME DIFFERENCES  
THURSDAY TOO AS IT COMES INTO THE NORTHWEST, WHICH MAY PLAY A  
FACTOR IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE MAIN TROUGH DOWNSTREAM. THIS SMALLER  
FEATURE'S CLUSTERING IN POSITION SEEMS BETTER IN THE INCOMING 00Z  
MODEL GUIDANCE. THE RIDGING IN THE EAST SEEMS PRETTY AGREEABLE IN  
THE GUIDANCE.  
 
BY LATE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND, ATTENTION TURNS TO AN UPPER LOW  
DROPPING SOUTHEAST FROM THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC TOWARD THE WEST  
COAST. RECENT MODELS ARE NOW SOMEWHAT MORE AGREEABLE IN SHOWING A  
MIDSIZE AND CLOSED UPPER LOW, RATHER THAN A HUGE UPPER LOW OR JUST  
TROUGHING/ENERGY, WHICH WERE BOTH POSSIBILITIES SHOWN BY THE MODELS  
A DAY AGO. HOWEVER, THE POSITION STILL VARIES GREATLY AMONG THE  
DETERMINISTIC MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND TO SOME EXTENT THE  
AI/MACHINE LEARNING (ML) MODELS. BY EARLY SATURDAY RECENT GFS RUNS  
HAVE BEEN ON THE SOUTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE SPREAD TO VARYING DEGREES  
DEPENDING ON THE RUN, WHICH THEN LEADS TO THE UPPER LOW FARTHER  
SOUTH INTO CALIFORNIA AS IT TRANSLATES EAST EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE  
DETERMINISTIC RUNS ARE GENERALLY DEEPER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, LIMITING CONFIDENCE IN THE OPERATIONAL RUNS.  
MEANWHILE THE 12Z AND NOW 00Z ECMWF DO NOT DIG THE LOW AS FAR  
SOUTH, TAKING IT ACROSS THE NORTHWEST OVER THE WEEKEND AND QUICKLY  
INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE 12Z ML MODELS WERE GENERALLY IN  
BETWEEN THESE SOUTHWEST AND NORTHEAST EXTREMES WITH THE FEATURE.  
THE 12Z CMC SEEMED LIKE A MORE REASONABLE PROXY FOR THE LOW  
POSITION AS IT WAS IN BETWEEN THE TWO, SOMEWHAT LIKE THE ML MODELS.  
THERE ARE ALSO QUESTIONS INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WHETHER OR NOT THE  
FEATURE STAYS SEPARATE OR GETS COMBINED WITH YET MORE ENERGY AND  
TROUGHING COMING IN FROM THE PACIFIC. IN ALL, THE CONFIDENCE FOR  
THIS FEATURE IS LOW AND CHANGES TO THE FORECAST ARE LIKELY.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND FAVORING THE DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS EARLY IN THE PERIOD, BUT QUICKLY RAMPED UP THE PROPORTION OF  
ENSEMBLE MEANS GIVEN LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE DETERMINISTICS. A SPLIT  
BETWEEN THE EC ENSEMBLE MEAN (WHICH WAS MORE LIKE ITS  
DETERMINISTIC RUN IN TAKING TROUGHING EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
TIER) AND THE GEFS ENSEMBLE MEAN (WITH TROUGHING PULLED MORE  
OFFSHORE) SEEMED TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE MIDDLE GROUND.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
ON THURSDAY, INGREDIENTS FOR WIDESPREAD RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS  
POTENTIALLY CAUSING FLASH FLOODING WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS CENTRAL  
PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. LOWERING HEIGHTS AS UPPER TROUGHING DIGS IN  
THE ROCKIES WILL PROVIDE LIFT AND COMBINE WITH AMPLE MOISTURE AND  
INSTABILITY. ON THURSDAY MODEL GUIDANCE ALREADY SHOWS HEAVY RAIN  
TOTALS OF 3-5 INCHES IN SOME AREAS AND HIGH RAIN RATES ARE LIKELY  
AS WELL. A LARGE SLIGHT RISK REMAINS IN PLACE FOR THE DAY  
4/THURSDAY ERO FOR EASTERN PARTS OF THE PLAINS INTO MUCH OF THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. WITHIN THIS RISK AREA, THERE MAY BE SOMEWHAT  
GREATER POTENTIAL AROUND NORTHEAST TEXAS TO EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND  
WESTERN ARKANSAS--AND THIS GENERAL AREA WILL LIKELY BE SENSITIVE TO  
ADDITIONAL RAIN DUE TO WET ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS. THERE IS  
POTENTIAL FOR EMBEDDED UPGRADES WITHIN THE SLIGHT RISK DEPENDING ON  
DETAILS OF PRIOR CONVECTION AND HOW GUIDANCE CONSOLIDATES FOR  
AMOUNTS/LOCATION OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL. THE MAIN CHANGE TO THE  
PREVIOUS SLIGHT RISK WAS TO EXPAND IT NORTHWARD INTO WISCONSIN.  
THERE, MORNING RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BE WIDESPREAD AND SERVE TO  
WET THE GROUND BEFORE A MORE UNSTABLE AIRMASS COMES IN AS A WARM  
FRONT LIFTS THROUGH THE AREA FOR THUNDERSTORMS WITH POSSIBLY HIGHER  
RAIN RATES DURING THE EVENING. BY FRIDAY, THE COLD FRONT  
PROGRESSING EAST IN THE NORTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNTRY OR SO  
WILL TRANSITION RAIN CHANCES MORE INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS, AND TOWARD THE APPALACHIANS TO EASTERN  
SEABOARD ON SATURDAY. HOWEVER, THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY LOOKS TO LINGER  
LONGER OR POSSIBLY LIFT ACROSS THE THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND PRODUCE  
ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF RAIN AND STORMS THROUGH THE WEEKEND. A  
MARGINAL RISK IS IN PLACE FRIDAY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE LOWER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME HEAVIER RAINFALL FOCUS.  
 
MEANWHILE, AREAS FROM THE NORTHWEST INTO THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL  
ROCKIES MAY SEE ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION INCLUDING SNOW IN HIGHER  
ELEVATIONS THROUGH THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND. ON  
THURSDAY, THE COOLING ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH COULD BRING  
SOME EARLY MAY SNOW INTO THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ROCKIES. THERE  
IS SOME CHANCE THAT SNOW MAY MAKE IT INTO THE FRONT RANGE OF  
COLORADO ON THURSDAY. THERE IS STILL QUITE A BIT OF MODEL SPREAD  
INTO LATE WEEK AND THE WEEKEND, WHICH AFFECTS THE PRECIPITATION  
FORECAST. CURRENTLY THE BEST GUIDANCE CLUSTER SHOWS ANOTHER ROUND  
OF PRECIPITATION IN THE NORTHERN ROCKIES FRIDAY WITH A COMPACT  
UPPER SYSTEM CROSSING THE AREA, WHILE AN UPSTREAM PACIFIC SYSTEM  
RENEWS PRECIPITATION OF VARYING INTENSITY ACROSS THE NORTHWEST FROM  
LATE FRIDAY OR SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN  
EXTENT OF THE PRECIPITATION IS UNCERTAIN AND WILL BE REFINED WITH  
TIME.  
 
THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE WARMER THAN AVERAGE BY  
10-15 DEGREES THROUGH LATE WEEK, WITH 80S REACHING THE OHIO VALLEY  
AND MID-ATLANTIC. MEANWHILE COOLER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE  
FORECAST ACROSS THE ROCKIES AND PARTS OF THE PLAINS. THESE COOLER  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD PUSH EAST BEHIND A COLD FRONT AND HELP MODERATE  
TEMPERATURES A BIT IN THE EAST, THOUGH COULD REMAIN A FEW DEGREES  
ABOVE NORMAL. TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE ROCKIES TO PLAINS ARE  
FORECAST TO WARM UP INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK DUE TO UPPER RIDGING AHEAD  
OF THE PACIFIC TROUGH. THE WEST COAST MAY BECOME COOLER THAN  
NORMAL THIS WEEKEND, BUT THIS WILL DEPEND ON HOW FAR EAST/ONSHORE  
THE PACIFIC TROUGH REACHES.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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