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FXUS02 KWBC 120712  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
312 AM EDT SUN MAY 12 2024  
 
VALID 12Z WED MAY 15 2024 - 12Z SUN MAY 19 2024  
   
..ANOTHER SOUTHERN TIER HEAVY RAINFALL THREAT MID-LATE WEEK
 
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A SYSTEM REACHING THE MID-ATLANTIC BY EARLY WEDNESDAY AND A COLD  
FRONT JUST TO ITS NORTH/WEST WILL SUPPORT A WET MIDWEEK OVER  
PORTIONS OF THE EAST BEFORE THE SURFACE LOW CONTINUES EASTWARD INTO  
THE ATLANTIC. FARTHER WEST, SHORTWAVE ENERGY EMERGING FROM THE  
ROCKIES SHOULD SUPPORT A WAVY FRONTAL SYSTEM PUSHING EASTWARD FROM  
THE PLAINS, SPREADING ANOTHER BROAD AREA OF RAINFALL OVER THE  
CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. WITH HIGHEST TOTALS STILL EXPECTED TO BE  
ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER. GUIDANCE IS STILL HAVING DIFFICULTY IN  
RESOLVING SOME IMPORTANT DETAILS THOUGH. POTENTIAL STALLING OF THE  
SYSTEM'S TRAILING FRONT NEAR THE GULF COAST COULD SUPPORT AT LEAST  
A LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINFALL THREAT INTO THE WEEKEND.  
MODELS/ENSEMBLES STILL DIFFER FOR SPECIFICS OF FLOW ROUNDING  
EASTERN PACIFIC RIDGING FROM WEDNESDAY ONWARD WITH EFFECTS  
TRANSLATING EASTWARD WITH TIME, BUT AT LEAST THE PRIOR EXTREMELY  
BROAD SOLUTION ENVELOPE HAS NARROWED SOMEWHAT.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
COMPARISONS OF 12Z/18Z DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE AND ECMWF-INITIALIZED  
MACHINE LEARNING MODELS, WITH DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS CLUSTERING BETTER  
FOR DIFFERENT FEATURES, ULTIMATELY LED TO AN EVEN WEIGHT OF THE  
GFS/ECMWF/UKMET/CMC FOR ABOUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD AND THEN  
A TRANSITION TO 30-40 PERCENT TOTAL 18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS WEIGHT  
WHILE MAINTAINING INPUT FROM THE GFS/ECMWF/CMC.  
 
FOR THE SYSTEM TRACKING OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC, GFS RUNS IN  
PARTICULAR HAVE HAD MORE STRAY SOLUTIONS RECENTLY COMPARED TO OTHER  
GUIDANCE AND THE ENSEMBLE MEANS (WITH CONSENSUS SAYING THE UPPER  
DYNAMICS SHOULD STAY MORE SEPARATED FROM FLOW TO THE NORTH).  
12Z/18Z RUNS WERE SOMEWHAT NORTH AND FAST BUT THE NEW 00Z RUN FITS  
WITH THE MEANS BETTER, WHILE NOW THE 00Z UKMET STRAYS TO THE NORTH  
SIDE OF THE SPREAD.  
 
REMAINING DETAILS OF THE FORECAST REMAIN AMBIGUOUS, WITH A  
COMBINATION OF DIFFERENCES FOR HOW SHORTWAVE ENERGY EMERGING FROM  
THE PLAINS/ROCKIES EVOLVES, DETAILS OF A SEPARATE SOUTHERN STREAM  
SHORTWAVE TRACKING OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST (PLUS POTENTIAL FOR  
ADDITIONAL LINGERING ENERGY THAT COULD EJECT LATER), AND FLOW  
COMING INTO NORTH AMERICA AROUND THE TOP OF EASTERN PACIFIC  
RIDGING. AMIDST ALL THESE DETAIL ISSUES THERE IS AT LEAST A GENERAL  
THEME OF THE FLOW EVOLVING TOWARD A MORE WARM-SEASON PATTERN WITH  
THE WESTERLIES BECOMING BETTER DEFINED ALONG THE NORTHERN TIER U.S.  
 
REGARDING FLOW AROUND THE PACIFIC RIDGE, GUIDANCE HAS BEEN  
TRENDING TOWARD AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION OVER THE NORTHWEST MID-  
LATE WEEK, WITH UPPER RIDGING HOLDING ON A LITTLE LONGER THAN THE  
AVERAGE OF PRIOR SPREAD (BUT NOT AS STRONGLY AS SOME GFS/CMC RUNS)  
AND THEN STAYING NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE ENVELOPE LATER IN THE  
PERIOD. SOME ECMWF-INITIALIZED MACHINE LEARNING MODELS SUGGEST THE  
SYSTEM TRACKING ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER LATE WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND COULD BE A LITTLE STRONGER THAN THE DYNAMICAL MODEL  
AVERAGE. FARTHER EAST, SURFACE DETAILS WILL DEPEND ON LOWER-  
PREDICTABILITY DETAILS OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY. LATEST GUIDANCE HAS  
SHIFTED NORTHWARD WITH THE MAIN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE AFTER REACHING  
THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY EARLY FRIDAY BUT THEN CONSENSUS SUGGESTS  
THE TRIPLE POINT WAVE MAY BECOME THE PRIMARY LOW UPON REACHING THE  
WESTERN ATLANTIC.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL STILL LOOKS TO BE IN  
THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS BY THE WEDNESDAY-WEDNESDAY NIGHT  
TIME FRAME COVERED BY THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK.  
REFLECTING SOME DEVELOPING SPREAD FOR APPROACHING DYNAMICS ALOFT  
(FROM THE ROCKIES, AS WELL AS A SEPARATE SOUTHWEST SHORTWAVE THAT  
MAY HAVE SOME INTERACTION WITH NORTHERN STREAM FLOW),  
MODEL/ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO DIFFER FOR CONVECTIVE  
SPECIFICS OVER THIS REGION. THE GFS/ECMWF AND THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS  
MAINTAIN A THEME OF INSTABILITY AND INCREASING MOISTURE OVER THIS  
REGION, ALONG WITH MULTIPLE SURFACE FEATURES THAT MAY HELP TO FOCUS  
CONVECTION. THERE HAS BEEN SOME LINGERING SUPPORT FOR ONE AREA OF  
EMPHASIS OVER TEXAS WHERE GROUND CONDITIONS ARE ON THE WETTER SIDE  
SO FOR NOW THE ERO MAINTAINS THE SLIGHT RISK AREA CLOSE TO  
CONTINUITY. HOWEVER THERE IS A DEVELOPING SIGNAL FROM SOME  
DYNAMICAL AND MACHINE LEARNING OUTPUT TOWARD BETTER CONVECTIVE  
EMPHASIS A LITTLE FARTHER NORTH--OVER AN AREA WHERE SHORT TERM  
FORECAST RAINFALL COULD LEAD TO WETTER SOILS HEADING INTO DAY 4  
THAN CURRENTLY OBSERVED. PREFER TO WAIT ANOTHER RUN TO GAIN BETTER  
CONFIDENCE IN ANY POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS. MEANWHILE CONTINUITY LOOKS  
GOOD FOR THE LINGERING MARGINAL RISK OVER NORTHERN FLORIDA AS THE  
FRONT REACHING THE AREA STALLS, ACCOMPANIED BY INSTABILITY AND  
ABOVE NORMAL MOISTURE.  
 
FOR THE DAY 5 ERO (THURSDAY-THURSDAY NIGHT), AFOREMENTIONED SPREAD  
FOR DETAILS ALOFT CONTINUE TO INFLUENCE CONVECTIVE DETAILS FROM  
THE PLAINS INTO THE GULF COAST STATES. THE OUTLOOK STARTS WITH A  
SLIGHT RISK AREA EXTENDING FROM SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS INTO SOUTHWEST  
MISSISSIPPI, WHICH REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE OF ENSEMBLE PROBABILITIES  
FOR GREATEST RAINFALL (OR SPECIFICALLY THE 12Z ECENS, WITH THE  
CMCENS A LITTLE SOUTHEAST AND THE GEFS A LITTLE NORTH) ALONG WITH  
LATEST ECMWF/CMC RUNS PLUS 12Z MACHINE LEARNING MODELS. EVEN THOUGH  
GFS DETAILS ALOFT LEAD TO MUCH LESS QPF, IT IS MORE SIMILAR TO  
OTHER MODELS/MEANS IN DEPICTING A PRONOUNCED SURGE OF MOISTURE INTO  
THIS REGION WITH ADEQUATE INSTABILITY AS WELL. A FRONT FARTHER  
NORTH MAY HELP TO FOCUS LESS EXTREME BUT STILL LOCALLY HEAVY  
RAINFALL, WHICH IS ACCOUNTED FOR BY A MARGINAL RISK AREA THAT  
EXTENDS INTO PARTS OF THE SOUTH- CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST.  
 
EXPECT THE MOISTURE SHIELD TO CONTINUE ACROSS THE EASTERN U.S. LATE  
IN THE WEEK, WITH HEAVIEST RAINFALL MOST LIKELY EXTENDING ACROSS  
THE SOUTHEAST. DEPENDING ON SPECIFICS OF UPPER FLOW, THE FRONT  
TRAILING FROM THE SURFACE SYSTEM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EPISODE COULD  
STALL NEAR THE GULF COAST AND PROVIDE A FOCUS FOR ADDITIONAL  
RAINFALL DURING THE WEEKEND.  
 
AN EASTERN PACIFIC UPPER RIDGE EXTENDING INTO THE WEST SHOULD  
SUPPORT ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER MOST OF THE WEST COAST  
STATES AND PARTS OF THE GREAT BASIN DURING WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY, WITH  
SOME AREAS SEEING PLUS 10-15F ANOMALIES. THEREAFTER, EXPECT THE  
WARM READINGS TO PERSIST OVER CALIFORNIA/NEVADA WITH EVENTUAL  
EXPANSION INTO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES WHILE THE NORTHWEST TRENDS  
CLOSER TO NORMAL (POSSIBLY BELOW NORMAL OVER MONTANA). MOST OF  
FLORIDA MAY SEE SEVERAL DAYS WITH HIGHS UP TO 5-10F ABOVE NORMAL,  
IN A WARM PATTERN TO THE SOUTH OF A COUPLE FRONTS EXPECTED TO STALL  
UPON REACHING THE FAR NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE. COMBINED WITH  
HIGH DEW POINTS, THESE TEMPERATURES MAY BRING HEAT INDICES AS HIGH  
AS 105-110 ACROSS SOUTHEAST/SOUTHERN FLORIDA, SIGNALING THE FIRST  
HAZARDOUS HEAT DAYS OF THE SUMMER. OTHERWISE, AREAS TO THE EAST OF  
THE ROCKIES WILL TEND TO BE WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF NORMAL FOR  
HIGHS, ASIDE FROM BELOW NORMAL OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS ON  
THURSDAY AND POSSIBLY AN AXIS OF MODESTLY ABOVE NORMAL READINGS  
DROPPING SOUTHEAST FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS FRIDAY ONWARD. MOST OF  
THE EASTERN U.S. SHOULD SEE SOMEWHAT ABOVE NORMAL LOWS THROUGH THE  
PERIOD.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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