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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
316 AM EDT FRI SEP 13 2024  
 
VALID 12Z MON SEP 16 2024 - 12Z FRI SEP 20 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
RELOADING UPPER TROUGHING WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE WESTERN U.S.  
THROUGH NEXT WEEK, PROMOTING COOLER WEATHER AND RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW. SOME RAIN MAY SPREAD INTO THE PLAINS AS WELL, BUT  
WITH WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. MEANWHILE IN THE EAST, EARLY  
IN THE WEEK A REX BLOCK TYPE PATTERN WILL SET UP WITH AN UPPER  
HIGH SITUATED OVER THE NORTHEAST AND A WEAK UPPER LOW FARTHER  
SOUTH, ACCOMPANIED BY A COASTAL SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. THE  
EVOLUTION OF THE PATTERN IN THE EAST IS RATHER UNCERTAIN AS THE  
WEEK PROGRESSES, INCLUDING THE SURFACE LOW'S POSSIBLE TROPICAL OR  
SUBTROPICAL EVOLUTION AND THE COASTAL AND INLAND RAINFALL FORECAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS PERSISTENT IN INDICATING A DEEP UPPER LOW  
CENTERED OVER NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AS THE PERIOD BEGINS MONDAY,  
WHICH ALONG WITH AN ACCOMPANYING SURFACE LOW SHOULD LIFT NORTHEAST  
WITH TIME. THERE IS SOME MINOR INCREASING SPREAD WITH THESE  
UPPER/SURFACE LOWS BY WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. THE 18Z GFS/ECMWF WERE  
PRETTY AGREEABLE IN THEIR POSITIONS JUST NORTH OF MONTANA, BUT  
THESE WERE SOUTH OF THE ENSEMBLE MEAN POSITIONS AND NOW SOUTH  
OF/SLOWER THAN THE 00Z MODEL POSITIONS. MEANWHILE THE 12Z CMC  
SEEMED TO GET RID OF THIS COMPACT UPPER LOW TOO QUICKLY, BUT THE  
00Z RUN LOOKS IN BETTER ALIGNMENT. ANOTHER ROUND OF VORTICITY IS  
FORECAST TO DIG SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE TROUGH ATOP THE  
WEST COAST STATES DURING TUESDAY-THURSDAY BEFORE MOVING THE TROUGH  
EAST BY FRIDAY. ONCE AGAIN THE 00Z CMC SEEMS MORE AGREEABLE WITH  
CONSENSUS THAN THE 12Z RUN DID. UPSTREAM BY FRIDAY THERE IS  
UNCERTAINTY WITH THE FLOW PATTERN COMING INTO BRITISH COLUMBIA AND  
POTENTIALLY AFFECTING PACIFIC NORTHWEST FRONTS, WHICH WILL HAVE TO  
BE MONITORED AS CURRENTLY MODELS ARE OUT OF PHASE, GFS RUNS WITH  
RIDGING AND CMC/EC WITH TROUGHING.  
 
THE EASTERN U.S. PATTERN SHOWS PLENTY OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE  
DETAILS OF THE ENERGY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE BROADER UPPER LOW  
GRADUALLY DRIFTING NORTH WITH TIME, AFFECTING THE SURFACE PATTERN  
WITH A COASTAL STATIONARY FRONT WITH WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE, ONE OF  
WHICH HAS SOME POTENTIAL FOR SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT.  
SOME GFS RUNS REMAIN ON THE AGGRESSIVE SIDE WITH THE SURFACE LOW  
STRENGTHENING, BUT ENSEMBLE MEMBERS DO SHOW SOME SUPPORT FOR A LOW  
THAT DEEP. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF SHOWS ANY NOTABLE QPF STAYING OFFSHORE  
OF THE EAST COAST THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE WEEK, UNLIKE THE  
GFS IN PARTICULAR. SO THESE ENERGY/LOW DIFFERENCES DO CREATE  
SIGNIFICANT SENSIBLE WEATHER DIFFERENCES, AND THE FORECAST IS  
LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF DETERMINISTIC MODELS (18Z  
GFS AND 00Z ECMWF/CMC/UKMET) EARLY IN THE PERIOD, INTRODUCING AND  
INCREASING THE PROPORTION OF THE EC AND GEFS ENSEMBLE MEANS AS THE  
PERIOD PROGRESSED GIVEN INCREASING SPREAD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE UPPER LOW/TROUGH ACROSS THE WEST WILL SUPPORT ROUNDS OF  
PRECIPITATION THERE NEXT WEEK, PROVIDING AMPLE LIFT/FORCING. ON  
MONDAY, LINGERING MOISTURE FROM THE PACIFIC TROPICAL STORM ILEANA  
(THAT WILL BE DISSIPATED BY THEN) COULD ALSO JOIN AND LEAD TO HEAVY  
RAIN FOR PORTIONS OF THE FOUR CORNERS STATES, PROMPTING A MARGINAL  
RISK THERE. PRECIPITATION MAY ALSO BE SOMEWHAT HEAVY ON MONDAY  
AROUND NORTHERN NEVADA, BUT HELD OFF ON ANY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL RISK  
DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IF THE RAIN WOULD BE IMPACTFUL THERE. BY  
TUESDAY, THE PIVOTING UPPER AND SURFACE LOWS SHOULD SPREAD HEAVY  
PRECIPITATION INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS. DID INTRODUCE  
A DAY 5/TUESDAY MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE WESTERN  
HALF OF MONTANA AS HEAVY RAIN RATES NEAR THE LOW TRACK COULD  
PERSIST OVER THE SAME AREAS FOR MULTIPLE HOURS, AND THERE COULD BE  
SOME INSTABILITY IN PLACE. THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS CAN EXPECT SNOW  
WITH THIS SYSTEM GIVEN THE DEPTH OF THE UPPER LOW. ANOTHER ROUND OF  
ENERGY WILL CAUSE THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO SEE PRECIPITATION ON  
TUESDAY, SHIFTING INTO MUCH OF THE GREAT BASIN MIDWEEK AND THEN  
INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. FARTHER EAST, SCATTERED RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORMS ARE LIKELY IN THE PLAINS FOR MULTIPLE DAYS NEXT WEEK  
NEAR AND AHEAD OF FRONTAL SYSTEMS.  
 
A STATIONARY FRONT STRETCHING FROM THE FAR WESTERN ATLANTIC AND  
BACK ACROSS THE GULF COAST WITH WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE ALONG IT  
COULD MAINTAIN RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST TO CAROLINAS FOR  
THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK AT LEAST, PERHAPS INTO MID AND LATER  
WEEK. THE QPF REMAINS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN GIVEN THE MODEL DIFFERENCES,  
INCLUDING HOW FAR WEST AND NORTH RAIN COULD REACH. AT THIS POINT,  
WPC SHOWS A MARGINAL RISK FOR DAY 4/MONDAY ACROSS EASTERN PORTIONS  
OF THE CAROLINAS NEAR WHERE A SURFACE LOW IS MOST LIKELY TO BE JUST  
OFFSHORE. HELD OFF ON ANY RISK AREA FOR DAY 5/TUESDAY BECAUSE OF  
THE INCREASING SPREAD IN POSITION OF ANY HEAVY RAINFALL, BUT IN  
GENERAL THERE COULD BE SOME RAIN IN THE CAROLINAS INTO THE MID-  
ATLANTIC TUESDAY-THURSDAY.  
 
THE WEST CAN EXPECT MUCH COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES NEXT WEEK  
UNDER THE UPPER TROUGH. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE 15-25F BELOW  
NORMAL ACROSS MUCH OF THE WEST, GRADUALLY MODERATING CLOSER TO  
NORMAL ACROSS THE WEST COAST STATES BUT PERSISTING IN THE INTERIOR  
WEST. SOME AREAS MAY REACH THE FREEZING MARK IN THE HIGHER  
ELEVATIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN/ROCKIES. MEANWHILE, THE CENTRAL U.S.  
SHOULD SEE WARMER THAN NORMAL HIGHS BY 10-15F AND LOWS BY 15-20F,  
INCLUDING HIGHS IN THE 90S IN THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS.  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL STRETCH INTO THE GREAT LAKES  
AND NORTHEAST, WITH MORE TYPICAL TEMPERATURES SOUTH OF THERE.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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