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FXUS02 KWBC 152043  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
443 PM EDT SUN SEP 15 2024  
 
VALID 12Z WED SEP 18 2024 - 12Z SUN SEP 22 2024  
 
...A COASTAL STORM COULD SPREAD HEAVY RAIN INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC  
STATES WHILE LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN COULD IMPACT NORTHWESTERN MONTANA  
ON WEDNESDAY INTO EARLY THURSDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
DEEP UPPER TROUGHING WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE WESTERN U.S.  
THROUGH THIS WEEK TO PROMOTE COOLER WEATHER WITH RAIN AND HIGH-  
ELEVATION SNOW. RAIN ON THE BACKSIDE OF A DEEPENING LOW COULD  
IMPACT NORTHWESTERN MONTANA ON WEDNESDAY INTO EARLY THURSDAY. THERE  
APPEARS TO BE A GOOD CHANCE FOR BANDS OF HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG  
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS AHEAD OF A  
SLOWING FRONT LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND WITH WARMER THAN  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. MEANWHILE IN THE EAST, A BROAD UPPER LOW  
INITIALLY ACCOMPANIED WITH TROPICAL MOISTURE FROM A COASTAL STORM  
WILL BE SLOW TO EXIT THE EAST COAST WITH MARGINAL HEAVY RAIN  
POTENTIAL MAINLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC WEDNESDAY INTO  
THURSDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THE MOST UNCERTAIN PORTION OF THE MEDIUM-RANGE FORECASTS CONTINUES  
TO BE ALONG THE EAST COAST WHERE THE TRACK AND FORWARD SPEED OF A  
COASTAL STORM REMAIN IN QUESTION INTO THE SHORT-RANGE, EVEN DOWN  
TO THE CURRENT TIME WITH THE ANALYSIS. THE GFS HAS BEEN THE FASTEST  
GUIDANCE, TAKING THE SYSTEM NORTH THEN NORTHWESTWARD INTO SOUTH  
CAROLINA AND THEN PRETTY MUCH DISSIPATING IT WELL INLAND BY THE  
TIME MEDIUM-RANGE BEGINS ON WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF HAS FLIPPED ITS  
EASTERN TRACK SINCE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, NOW TRACKING THE SYSTEM  
SLOWLY WESTWARD FOR A DAY OR SO BEFORE SWINGING IT ONSHORE INTO  
NORTH CAROLINA ON TUESDAY. PRESENT SATELLITE LOOP INDICATES THAT A  
NORTHWARD MOTION MIGHT HAVE BEGUN AFTER INITIALLY BEING  
STATIONARY. THE WPC MEDIUM-RANGE FORECASTS ARE BASED ON A CONSENSUS  
OF THE GUIDANCE WITH A GENERAL NORTHWARD TRACK BRINGING THE SYSTEM  
INLAND BY DAY 3.  
 
FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, AGREEMENT AMONG MODELS REMAIN  
ACCEPTABLE THROUGH DAY 7. THERE IS INCREASING SPREAD REGARDING THE  
FORWARD SPEED OF THE UPPER TROUGH THAT IS FORECAST TO HEAD INTO  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS BY THE WEEKEND. THIS REQUIRED SOME MODIFICATIONS  
TO THE FRONTAL POSITIONS AND THE ASSOCIATED QPF DISTRIBUTION.  
 
THE WPC MEDIUM-RANGE FORECASTS WERE BASED ON A CONSENSUS OF THE  
00Z EC/EC MEAN, 06Z GEFS, THE 00Z CMC/CMC MEAN, AND THE 00Z UKMET  
WHILE AVOIDING 06Z GFS ON DAYS 3 AND 4 OWING TO ITS FAST FORWARD MOTION  
OF THE COASTAL STORM NEAR THE CAROLINAS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE SURFACE LOW THAT MAY BE TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL PER NHC/WPC  
COORDINATION REMAINS MORE UNCERTAIN THAN DESIRED, BUT FOR NOW IS  
MOST LIKELY TO BE LOCATED IN VIRGINIA OR VICINITY BY WEDNESDAY,  
SPREADING RAIN INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND APPALACHIANS. FOR  
WEDNESDAY/DAY 4, A MARGINAL RISK AREA REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS MUCH  
OF THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION AND STRETCHES INTO SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE  
NORTHEAST GIVEN A SLIGHTLY FASTER TREND IN THE RAIN SPREADING  
NORTH AND EAST. REMNANT MOISTURE COULD LINGER INTO THURSDAY/DAY 5,  
OVER PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC TO ALLOW SOME LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN  
WHERE A MARGINAL RISK OF LASH FLOODING IS MAINTAINED AFTER A WET  
PREVIOUS COUPLE OF DAYS. SHOWERS ARE LIKELY TO PERSIST INTO LATE  
WEEK ALONG PARTS OF THE EASTERN SEABOARD AS UPPER TROUGHING REMAINS  
OVERHEAD. THE FLORIDA PENINSULA COULD ALSO SEE SOME FOCUSED  
CONVECTION DUE TO A FRONTAL BOUNDARY IN A MOIST ENVIRONMENT.  
CURRENTLY THIS THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY SEEMS TO BE SUB-MARGINAL RISK  
FOR FLASH FLOODING, BUT IF GUIDANCE IS AGREEABLE IN TRENDING  
UPWARD WITH AMOUNTS IN FUTURE CYCLES, FUTURE MARGINALS CANNOT BE  
RULED OUT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TYPICALLY SENSITIVE URBAN CORRIDOR OF  
SOUTHEAST FLORIDA.  
 
THE MEAN TROUGH ALOFT OVER THE WEST WILL PROVIDE AMPLE  
LIFT/FORCING TO SUPPORT ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION THERE THIS WEEK.  
HEAVY RAIN MAY LINGER ACROSS PARTS OF MONTANA ON DAY 4/WEDNESDAY  
FOR A CONTINUED MARGINAL RISK, AS THE REGION COULD SEE HEAVY RAIN  
RATES FOR MULTIPLE HOURS ON THE BACKSIDE OF A DEEPENING LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS NORTHWESTERN MONTANA. THE SECONDARY UPPER  
LOW SHOULD THEN SPREAD PRECIPITATION FROM THE WEST COAST STATES  
MIDWEEK INTO THE GREAT BASIN AND ROCKIES. THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS CAN  
EXPECT SNOW WITH BOTH OF THESE SYSTEMS GIVEN THE DEPTH OF THE  
UPPER LOW. FARTHER EAST, SCATTERED RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE  
LIKELY IN THE PLAINS FOR MULTIPLE DAYS THIS WEEK NEAR AND AHEAD OF  
FRONTAL SYSTEMS. RAINFALL AMOUNTS MAY INCREASE IN THE NORTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. BY LATER WEEK, AS THE FRONT TRAILING FROM THE INITIAL  
MONTANA INTO CANADA SYSTEM STALLS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHILE  
AWAITING SOME COMBINATION OF NORTHERN STREAM AND WESTERN U.S.  
DYNAMICS (WITH POSSIBLE SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT).  
 
UNDERNEATH THE UPPER TROUGH IN THE WEST, MUCH COOLER THAN NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE 15-25F BELOW  
NORMAL ACROSS MUCH OF THE WEST, GRADUALLY MODERATING CLOSER TO  
NORMAL ACROSS THE WEST COAST STATES BUT WITH SOME MINUS 10-15F  
ANOMALIES PERSISTING IN THE INTERIOR WEST AND REACHING THE NORTHERN  
HIGH PLAINS OVER THE WEEKEND. SOME AREAS MAY REACH THE FREEZING  
MARK IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN/ROCKIES.  
MEANWHILE, THE CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD SEE WARMER THAN NORMAL HIGHS BY  
10-15F AND LOWS BY 15-20F, INCLUDING HIGHS IN THE 90S IN THE  
SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PLAINS, THROUGH THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK.  
THE SCOPE OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL DECREASE INTO THE  
WEEKEND AND MAINLY FOCUS ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TO THE OHIO  
VALLEY. THE NORTHEAST CAN EXPECT WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES  
UNTIL A COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE WEEK, WHILE TEMPERATURES SOUTH OF  
THERE ARE FORECAST TO BE NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL.  
 
KONG/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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