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FXUS02 KWBC 181859  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 PM EDT WED SEP 18 2024  
 
VALID 12Z SAT SEP 21 2024 - 12Z WED SEP 25 2024  
 
...HEAVY RAIN WITH POSSIBLE FLOODING IS FORECAST FOR THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS TO MIDWEST THIS WEEKEND...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
UPPER TROUGHING CENTERED OVER THE FOUR CORNERS STATES AS THE  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINNING SATURDAY WILL GRADUALLY PUSH INTO THE  
CENTRAL U.S. INTO NEXT WEEK WHILE RELOADING. THIS TROUGH AND  
FRONTAL SYSTEMS AT THE SURFACE WILL LEAD TO COOLER TEMPERATURES  
BEHIND THEM, BUT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR LIKELY HEAVY RAIN ACROSS  
CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE U.S. PARTICULARLY THIS WEEKEND. IN THE  
EAST, UPPER TROUGHING WILL LINGER INTO THE WEEKEND, WHICH ALONG  
WITH WEAK SURFACE FRONTAL SYSTEMS OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC MAY  
LEAD TO SHOWERS ACROSS PARTS OF THE EASTERN SEABOARD, ALONG WITH  
ONSHORE FLOW FOR SOME POSSIBLE COASTAL FLOODING. THIS TROUGH LOOKS  
TO PUSH AWAY EARLY NEXT WEEK IN FAVOR OF RIDGING. A STALLING FRONT  
MAY FOCUS RAIN OVER SOUTH FLORIDA AT TIMES FOR PERHAPS NONZERO  
FLOODING CONCERNS OVER THE URBAN CORRIDOR. MEANWHILE NHC AND WPC  
WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR POSSIBLE TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE  
CARIBBEAN THAT MAY SLOWLY MOVE NORTHWARD NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
OVERALL PATTERN OVER THE CONUS AT THE START OF THE FORECAST PERIOD  
FEATURES A LINGERING TROUGH OVER THE EAST COAST, A NORTHERN STREAM  
TROUGH OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST, A SOUTHERN STREAM RIDGE OVER THE  
SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S., AND A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER-LOW OVER THE FOUR  
CORNERS REGION. THE 00Z/06Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF, ECHOING PRIOR  
FORECASTS, SHOW THE STREAMS REMAINING SEPARATE AS BOTH SYSTEMS LIFT  
TO THE NORTHEAST, WITH THE FOUR CORNERS SYSTEM ENTERING THE PLAINS  
AND BRINGING A POTENTIAL THREAT OF HEAVY RAINFALL TO THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS. THE 00Z CMC CONTINUES TO DIFFER FROM THE OTHER GUIDANCE,  
SHOWING THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGHS PHASING MUCH  
QUICKER COMPARED TO THE OTHER GUIDANCE.  
 
DIFFERENCES AMONGST THE REMAINING GUIDANCE INCREASE IN THE MID- TO  
LATE PERIOD AS A SECONDARY SHORTWAVE INCOMING FROM THE WEST  
AMPLIFIES INTO THE SOUTHWEST, WITH THE ENERGY EVENTUALLY  
POTENTIALLY BECOMING CUTOFF BY TUESDAY. THIS HAS BECOME A MUCH MORE  
NOTABLE TREND IN THE ECMWF GUIDANCE AS COMPARED TO THE GFS, WITH A  
HINT IN THE 00Z ECENS MEAN. THE EC AI MODEL SUITE DOES TEND TO  
FAVOR THIS MORE THAN NOT, THOUGH WITH THE LACK OF CONSENSUS AND  
SUPPORT FROM THE MEANS IT IS DIFFICULT TO RESOLVE AT THIS  
TIMEFRAME. THE OVERALL PATTERN OTHERWISE FOR THE CONUS IS FAIRLY  
AGREEABLE ON A LARGER-SCALE, WITH THE CENTRAL U.S. UPPER  
LOW/TROUGH LIFTING NORTHEAST IN MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE AS THE STREAMS  
PHASE, WITH LARGE- SCALE RIDGING OVER THE WESTERN U.S. SIMILARLY  
SHIFTING EASTWARD IN ITS WAKE AS UPSTREAM ENERGY REACHES THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH IN THE LATEST 06Z GFS  
DOES NOT LIFT INTO THE MIDWEST AS QUICKLY AS THE ECMWF AND THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS WHILE ALSO SHOWING A CLOSED HIGH OVER THE SOUTHWEST  
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE BROADER LONGWAVE RIDGING COMPARED TO THE WEAK  
CUTOFF LOW IN THE OTHER SOLUTIONS.  
 
ONE LAST BUT IMPORTANT FEATURE OF INTEREST IS THE POTENTIAL FOR  
TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN MID-NEXT WEEK. THERE  
REMAINS A LARGE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A  
SYSTEM DURING THIS TIME FRAME, WITH THE 00Z GFS/CMC AND SOME GEFS  
AND ECENS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS FASTER IN BOTH DEVELOPING A SYSTEM AND  
BRINGING IT NORTHWARD INTO THE GULF, WHILE THE 00Z ECMWF DOES NOT.  
CURRENTLY ANTICIPATE THAT AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MAY MOVE INTO THE  
GULF OF MEXICO MID-NEXT WEEK, BUT THERE REMAINS A LARGE AMOUNT OF  
UNCERTAINTY AND THE NHC AND WPC WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. IT IS  
NOTED THAT THE LINGERING DISAGREEMENT ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE  
CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH WILL LIKELY IMPACT HOW FAST THIS POTENTIAL  
SYSTEM LIFTS NORTHWARD.  
 
THE UPDATED WPC FORECAST BEGINS WITH A BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF, A  
MIX OF THE 00Z/06Z GFS, AND 00Z UKMET. SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR  
FORECAST, THE 00Z CMC IS NOT INCLUDED GIVEN HOW QUICKLY THE  
SOLUTION DIVERGES OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. AS THE TWO STREAMS PHASE.  
THE DIFFERENCES IN THE GUIDANCE AS TO IF/WHERE THERE IS CUTOFF  
ENERGY OVER THE SOUTHWEST, OR A CLOSED HIGH AS THE 06Z GFS SHOWS,  
IS HARDER TO RESOLVE GIVEN THE OVERLAP, SO FAVORED A LARGE  
CONTRIBUTION FROM THE MEANS (AND DID NOT INCLUDE THE 06Z GFS) FOR  
THE END OF THE PERIOD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
BY SATURDAY, DYNAMICAL SUPPORT FOR THUNDERSTORMS WITH HEAVY RAIN  
WILL INCREASE AS THE UPPER LOW APPROACHES FROM THE FOUR CORNERS.  
MODELS THEREFORE SHOW A CONSIDERABLE UPTICK IN RAINFALL AMOUNTS ON  
THE CUSP OF THE INSTABILITY GRADIENT, WITH 3-5 INCHES LOCALLY. FOR  
THE DAY 4/SATURDAY ERO, CONTINUE TO DEPICT A BROAD MARGINAL RISK  
STRETCHING FROM IOWA WEST THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND INTO  
EASTERN COLORADO. THE HEAVY RAIN IS FORECAST TO SHIFT SLIGHTLY  
NORTHEASTWARD ON SUNDAY, PROMPTING A MARGINAL RISK FROM  
NORTHEASTERN COLORADO EAST THROUGH SOUTHERN NEBRASKA, NORTHEASTERN  
KANSAS, AND STRETCHING INTO THE MID/UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY FOR  
THE DAY 5 ERO. ON BOTH DAYS, THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR HIGHER RISK  
LEVELS WITHIN THE MARGINAL IN THE FUTURE IF MODELS ALIGN MORE  
AGREEABLY ON AN HEAVY RAIN AXIS GIVEN THE AMOUNTS CURRENTLY  
DEPICTED IN THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE. ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS ARE  
GENERALLY DRY, BUT HEAVY RAIN RATES COULD POSE FLASH FLOODING  
ISSUES REGARDLESS. MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY  
SHIFT ACROSS THE MIDWEST MONDAY AND THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. TUESDAY.  
WHILE UNCERTAIN, RAIN CHANCES MAY GET RENEWED BY TUESDAY IN THE  
SOUTH- CENTRAL U.S. AS WELL.  
 
UPSTREAM, THE QUESTIONS WITH THE PATTERN ALOFT CREATE UNCERTAINTY  
WITH THE QPF IN THE NORTHWEST INTO THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK,  
BUT THERE IS SOME SIGNAL FOR MODERATE TO HEAVY PRECIPITATION IN  
THE WASHINGTON COASTAL RANGES/CASCADES TOWARD THE NORTHERN ROCKIES  
AT TIMES.  
 
IN THE EAST, TROUGHING REMAINING OVERHEAD AND WEAK ATLANTIC  
FRONTS/SURFACE LOWS COULD PROMOTE SHOWERS OVER PARTS OF THE EASTERN  
SEABOARD THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. THESE SHOWERS LOOK TO  
REMAIN LIGHT, BUT PERSISTENT ONSHORE WIND FLOW MAY CREATE A COASTAL  
FLOODING HAZARD ALONG THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST BEFORE AN OFFSHORE  
LOW MOVES AWAY. THE FLORIDA PENINSULA COULD ALSO SEE SOME FOCUSED  
CONVECTION DUE TO A FRONTAL BOUNDARY IN A MOIST ENVIRONMENT. THIS  
FRONT STALLING INTO THE WEEKEND AND BEYOND COULD INCREASE RAIN  
TOTALS, WHICH MAY CREATE FLOODING PROBLEMS ESPECIALLY FOR THE  
TYPICALLY SENSITIVE URBAN CORRIDOR OF SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. THIS IS  
ALL AHEAD OF POTENTIAL TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT FARTHER SOUTH IN THE  
CARIBBEAN THAT MAY SLOWLY MAKE ITS WAY NORTH INTO THE MIDDLE OF  
NEXT WEEK. MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL MAY REACH PORTIONS OF THE  
CENTRAL TO EASTERN GULF COAST BY MID-NEXT WEEK AND BEYOND, BUT  
THERE REMAINS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ON THE EXACT LOCATION AND TIMING  
TIED TO THE EVOLUTION OF THE POTENTIAL TROPICAL SYSTEM.  
 
COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF HIGHS  
WILL BE IN PLACE FOR THE ROCKIES WESTWARD ON SATURDAY AND FOCUSING  
IN THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS ON SUNDAY UNDERNEATH THE UPPER  
TROUGH. MEANWHILE FARTHER EAST, ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES BY 10-15  
DEGREES ARE FORECAST FOR THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS NORTHEAST TO THE  
OHIO VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES REGION SATURDAY AS A RIDGE REMINDS IN  
PLACE BETWEEN THE CENTRAL U.S. AND EAST COAST UPPER TROUGHING. THE  
ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WILL DECREASE IN SCOPE EARLY NEXT WEEK,  
FOCUSING MAINLY OVER THE OHIO VALLEY AND THEN GRADUALLY MODERATING  
THERE TOO. THE EASTERN SEABOARD COULD SEE BELOW AVERAGE HIGHS INTO  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES MAY BE NEAR NORMAL IN MOST PLACES BY  
THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, BUT PENDING UPPER LEVEL PATTERN  
UNCERTAINTIES.  
 
PUTNAM/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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