020  
FXUS02 KWBC 211853  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
253 PM EDT SAT SEP 21 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE SEP 24 2024 - 12Z SAT SEP 28 2024  
   
..EYES TO THE CARIBBEAN FOR NEXT WEEK  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THERE CONTINUES TO BE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THE UPPER  
LEVEL PATTERN OVER THE CONUS MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK, WHICH HAS HUGE  
IMPLICATIONS FOR THE EVENTUAL TRACK OF A POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM  
THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO. LATEST GUIDANCE RUNS SEEM TO BE  
TRENDING TOWARDS MORE SPLIT FLOW OVER THE CONUS, AS ENERGY OR AN  
UPPER LOW SPLITS FROM A LEADING TROUGH RACING THROUGH THE  
MIDWEST/NORTHEAST NEXT WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY AND MEANDERS OVER THE  
CENTRAL PLAINS-MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. THIS MAY HELP TO PULL ANY  
SORT OF TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE GULF NORTHWARD A LITTLE FASTER  
THAN PREVIOUS THOUGHTS AND LATEST GUIDANCE FROM NHC REFLECTS THIS.  
VERY LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN ANY OF THE SPECIFICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE  
OVERALL MEDIUM RANGE FLOW PATTERN OVER THE CONUS AND, OF COURSE,  
GULF OF MEXICO TROPICAL ACTIVITY AS MODELS CONTINUE TO FLIP-FLOP  
AND WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO DO SO. ALSO A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY LATE  
PERIOD AS A CUT OFF LOW TRIES TO FORM OVER OR OFF THE NORTHEAST  
COAST, AND TIMING INCONSISTENCIES AS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE MOVES INTO  
THE WEST.  
 
THROUGH THE 00Z/06Z GUIDANCE, THE GFS WAS THE BIGGEST OUTLIER AND  
WAS NOT USED IN TODAY'S UPDATED GUIDANCE BLEND. THE NEW 12Z RUN  
(AVAILABLE AFTER FORECAST GENERATION TIME) IS MORE IN LINE WITH  
CONSENSUS. THE WPC FORECAST FOR TODAY LEANED MORE HEAVILY ON THE  
ECMWF AND CANADIAN, WITH SOME SMALLER CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE UKMET  
AND THE MEANS EARLY PERIOD. BY THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD,  
TRANSITIONED TO AS MUCH AS 70 PERCENT ENSEMBLE MEANS IN THE BLEND  
TO HELP SMOOTH OUT UNRESOLVABLE DETAILS AT THIS POINT.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
ENERGY DIGGING SOUTHWARD OVER THE ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS IN STILL  
UNCERTAIN SEPARATING FLOW MAY OFFER A PERIOD FAVORABLE FOR ENHANCED  
RAINFALL OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS UNDER UPPER DIFFLUENT FLOW  
AND WITH FRONTAL PROXIMITY. A WPC MARGINAL RISK AREA REMAINS IN  
PLACE ON THE WPC DAY 4/TUESDAY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK (ERO).  
 
MEANWHILE, UPPER TROUGH ENERGY AND WAVY FRONTAL SYSTEMS WILL BE  
KICKED SLOWLY INTO THE MIDWEST/EAST EARLY NEXT WEEK ALONG WITH AN  
ASSOCIATED THREAT OF SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS WITH SOME LOCAL RUNOFF  
ISSUES GIVEN MOTION. WPC (ERO) MARGINAL RISK AREAS ARE DEPICTED TO  
SHIFT EASTWARD DAY4/TUESDAY AND DAY/5 WEDNESDAY ACROSS THE UPPER  
OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC. UPPER TROUGH REINFORCEMENT  
MAY SUPPORT ADDITIONAL RAINFALL POTENTIAL TO MONITOR OVER THE EAST-  
CENTRAL U.S. MID-LATER NEXT WEEK IN AMPLIFIED BUT UNCERTAIN FLOW.  
THE EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THIS REMAINS CONTINGENT ON FAR UPSTREAM  
DEVELOPMENT OF A PROGRESSIVE UPPER TROUGH FROM THE NORTHEAST  
PACIFIC EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
MEANWHILE NHC AND WPC WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR POSSIBLE TROPICAL  
DEVELOPMENT IN THE CARIBBEAN THAT MAY SLOWLY LIFT NORTHWARD INTO  
THE GULF OF MEXICO TO THREATEN THE GULF COAST LATE NEXT WEEK. THE  
ULTIMATE POSITION AND SOUTHWARD BREATH OF THE UPPER TROUGH OVER THE  
LOWER 48 WILL DETERMINE EXTENT AND SPEED OF NORTHWARD LIFTING.  
GIVEN SOME OF THE LATEST GUIDANCE TRENDS, THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT  
HEAVY RAINFALL MAY BEGIN IMPACTING PARTS OF THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN  
GULF COAST BY LATE NEXT WEEK. THE TIMING AND EXACT LOCATION OF  
IMPACTS IS STILL VERY UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME.  
 
OUT WEST, MOST AREAS SHOULD STAY DRY. THE WASHINGTON COASTAL  
RANGES/CASCADES WILL BE AN EXCEPTION WITH GROWING DAILY ENHANCED  
RAIN POTENTIAL WITH PACIFIC SYSTEM ENERGY AND MOISTURE APPROACHES.  
 
SANTORELLI/SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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