892  
FXUS02 KWBC 230659  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EDT MON SEP 23 2024  
 
VALID 12Z THU SEP 26 2024 - 12Z MON SEP 30 2024  
 
...TROPICAL SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT THREAT FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO AND  
CENTRAL TO EASTERN GULF COAST/SOUTHEAST MID-LATE WEEK...  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES SEEM TO BE FINALLY TRENDING TOWARDS A MORE  
CONSISTENT FLOW PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD, WHICH INCLUDES THE EVENTUAL TRACK OF A POSSIBLE TROPICAL  
SYSTEM THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO AND TOWARDS THE CENTRAL-EASTERN  
GULF COAST REGION LATE THIS WEEK. MODELS HAVE TRENDED TOWARDS MORE  
SPLITTING OF FLOW AND A CUTOFF UPPER LOW LINGERING OVER THE MIDDLE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY MUCH OF THE PERIOD. THIS SHOULD HELP TO PULL A  
GULF TROPICAL SYSTEM NORTHWARD AND FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GUIDANCE.  
LATEST QPF/ERO FORECASTS FROM WPC AND NHC THOUGHTS REFLECTED THIS.  
STILL, VERY LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN ANY OF THE SPECIFICS ASSOCIATED  
WITH ESPECIALLY THE TROPICAL AND UNTIL AN ACTUAL SYSTEM FORMS,  
MODELS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO FLIP-FLOP. SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THEIR DETERMINISTIC  
COUNTERPARTS, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE UNCERTAINTIES IN INDIVIDUAL  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS. ELSEWHERE ACROSS THE CONUS, THERE IS SOME TIMING  
AND AMPLITUDE UNCERTAINTY WITH ANOTHER SHORTWAVE INTO THE WESTERN  
U.S. LATE WEEKEND AND REINFORCED TROUGHING/A CLOSED LOW NEAR THE  
NORTHEAST.  
 
THE WPC MEDIUM RANGE PRODUCT SUITE WAS MAINLY DERIVED FROM A  
COMPOSITE BLEND OF THE GENERALLY COMPATIBLE GFS/ECMWF AND ECMWF  
ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY WHOSE FORECAST CLUSTER  
WAS CLOSEST TO NHC THOUGHTS ON POTENTIAL GULF TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT  
AND TRACK. AFTER THIS, FAVORED A SOLUTION CLOSEST TO THE EMSEMBLE  
MEANS GIVEN INCREASING UNCERTAINTY. THIS PLAN IS OVERALL FASTER  
THAN WPC CONTINUITY WITH THE GULF COAST SYSTEM AND FASTER TO BRING  
COPIUS RAINFALL TO THE EAST-CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER (NHC) AND THE WEATHER PREDICTION  
CENTER AMONG OTHERS CONTINUE TO MONITOR POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM  
FORMATION IN THE CARIBBEAN THAT LOOKS TO LIFT INTO THE GULF OF  
MEXICO TO THREATEN MARITIME INTERESTS AND THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN  
GULF COAST/SOUTHEAST MID-LATE WEEK. GIVEN THE SYSTEM HAS YET TO  
FORM, STRENGTH AND TRACK REMAIN UNCERTAIN, BUT THE PICTURE US  
GETTING CLEARER. THE VAST BULK OF RECENT GUIDANCE OFFERS A GROWING  
SIGNAL FOR IMPACTFUL WEATHER, INCLUDING A THREAT FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL/WINDS/SURF FOR THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN GULF COAST/FLORIDA,  
WITH IMPACTFUL WEATHER POSSIBLE THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST AND VICINITY  
LATE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND. THERE HAS BEEN AN OVERALL FASTER TREND  
IN RECENT GUIDANCE. BY DAY 4/THURSDAY, THERE ARE EXPANSIVE WPC  
MARGINAL AND SLIGHT RISK EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK (ERO) AREAS  
SPREAD NORTHWARD ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. IF THE CURRENT FORECAST  
HOLD, IT IS LIKELY AT LEAST A MODERATE RISK WILL BE NEEDED CLOSER  
TO THE COAST FOR THIS TIME PERIOD, BUT WITH ONGOING UNCERTAINTY, IT  
STILL SEEMS PRUDENT TO HOLD OFF FOR NOW. REGARDLESS, LATEST MODELS  
AND ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO SUPPORT A HEAVY RAINFALL/STORM  
SURGE/FLOODING THREAT ACROSS THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN GULF COAST  
REGION BOTH WITH ADVANCE MOISTURE FEED INLAND AND WITH LANDFALL.  
THE THREAT WOULD CONTINUE FOR DAY 5/FRIDAY WITH SYSTEM PROXIMITY  
AND MOISTURE FEED BACK ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST AND INTO THE TENNESSEE  
VALLEY/MID-SOUTH TO INTERCEPT A SLOW MOVING CLOSED LOW.  
 
ELSEWHERE, UPPER TROUGH ENERGY WILL DIG THROUGH THE NORTHEAST MID-  
LATE WEEK. A WAVY SURFACE FRONT WILL WORK OFFSHORE, LEADING TO  
COASTAL LOW DEVELOPMENT AND EXIT. EXPECT A PERIOD OF ENHANCED RAIN  
OVER MAINE THURSDAY WITH A CLOSED UPPER LOW AND WRAPBACK MOISTURE.  
 
OUT WEST, MOST AREAS SHOULD BE DRY. THE WASHINGTON COASTAL RANGES  
AND CASCADES WILL BE AN EXCEPTION WITH ENHANCED RAIN AND HIGHEST  
ELEVATION SNOW POTENTIAL LATE WEEK WITH PACIFIC SYSTEM PASSAGES.  
 
SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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