249  
FXUS02 KWBC 261847  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
247 PM EDT THU SEP 26 2024  
 
VALID 12Z SUN SEP 29 2024 - 12Z THU OCT 03 2024  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z MODEL GUIDANCE SUITE MAINTAINS GOOD OVERALL  
SYNOPTIC SCALE AGREEMENT ACROSS THE CONTINENTAL U.S. ON SUNDAY AND  
INTO MONDAY. THE GUIDANCE STILL SHOWS THE UPPER TROUGH ARRIVING  
OVER THE GREAT LAKES BY TUESDAY, WITH THE CMC DEVELOPING A STRONGER  
TROUGH/CLOSED LOW OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO BY WEDNESDAY COMPARED TO  
THE OTHER GUIDANCE. THAT TRENDS ALSO CONTINUES GOING INTO THURSDAY  
WITH THE CMC INDICATING A STRONGER LOW SOLUTION. TIMING AND  
EVOLUTION BECOMES LESS CLEAR WITH THE NEXT TROUGH BEGINNING TO  
DEVELOP OVER THE NORTHWESTERN U.S. LATE IN THE FORECAST PERIOD  
MIDWEEK, SO THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE GRADUALLY INCREASED TO ABOUT  
40% BY NEXT WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING GOOD  
OVERALL CONTINUITY FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE PREVIOUS  
FORECAST DISCUSSION IS APPENDED BELOW FOR REFERENCE. /HAMRICK  
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..PATTERN OVERVIEW AND GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
LATEST GUIDANCE IS IN BROAD AGREEMENT THIS WEEKEND. A BLOCKY SPLIT  
FLOW PATTERN OVER MUCH OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED ALOFT  
BY A WARMING ROCKIES/SOUTHWEST RIDGE, A LOW/TROUGH OUT FROM THE  
CANADIAN MARITIMES, AND A CUTOFF LOW MEANDERING OUT FROM THE MID-  
SOUTH/OHIO VALLEY STATES. MOIST POST TROPICAL CYCLONE HELENE  
WEAKENS INTO SUNDAY/MONDAY AS PER NHC NEAR TENNESSEE/KENTUCKY AS  
ENTRAINED INTO THE CUTOFF LOW. SLOW FEATURE TRANSLATION SHOULD SUPPORT  
A PESKY RAINFALL/RUNOFF THREAT IN PROXIMITY OF THE LOW AND  
EASTWARD WITHIN A LINGERING MOISTURE FEED INTO SOIL DRENCHED  
SOUTH-CENTRAL APPALACHIANS TERRAIN.  
 
FORECAST SPREAD INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY NEXT WEEK WITHIN A MORE  
PROGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC NORTHERN STREAM FLOW FROM THE NORTHEAST  
PACIFIC THROUGH THE NORTHWEST U.S. AND DOWNSTREAM. GUIDANCE VARIES  
WITH OVERALL TIMING AND IN PARTICULAR WITH THE EXTENT OF POTENTIAL  
SOUTHEASTWARD DIGGING/AMPLITUDE OF UPPER TROUGH ENERGIES DOWNSTREAM  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S.. THE PATTERN WAS INCREASINGLY  
OUT OF SYNC AND UNCERTAIN NEXT WEEK, BUT NEWER 00 UTC MODEL GUIDANCE  
HAS CONVERGED TO A DEGREE WITH CLOSER TO MIDDLE OF THE ROAD  
AMPLITUDE IN LINE WITH AN ENSEMBLE COMPOSITE. GIVEN LINGERING  
UNCERTAINTIES, PREFER AN ENSEMBLE MEANS AND NBM BASED FORECAST  
APPROACH THROUGH MEDIUM RANGE TIME SCALES THAT MAINTAINS REASONABLY  
GOOD WPC CONTINUITY AND FITS WELL WITH LATEST NHC HELENE GUIDANCE.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
MOISTURE FROM WHAT WILL BE THE REMNANTS OF HELENE, IN COMBINATION  
WITH A LINGERING UPPER LOW, WILL RESULT IN CONTINUED SHOWERS AND  
SOME THUNDERSTORMS FROM CENTRAL KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE EASTWARD TO THE  
CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AND MID-ATLANTIC REGION INTO MONDAY, ALBEIT  
MUCH LIGHTER IN INTENSITY COMPARED TO ONGOING CURRENT RAINFALL.  
THE MARGINAL RISK AREA FOR THE DAY 4 PERIOD WAS EXPANDED SOME TO  
INCLUDE MORE OF VIRGINIA, MARYLAND, AND SOUTHERN PENNSYLVANIA GIVEN  
A STRONGER MODEL QPF SIGNAL. THERE WAS ALSO AN EXTENSION NORTHWARD  
INTO CENTRAL PA FOR DAY 5 WITH THE EXISTING MARGINAL RISK AREA,  
WHILE MAINTAINING THE OUTLOOK AREA OVER THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AS  
THE REMNANT LOW IS SLOW TO MOVE OUT OF THE REGION. EVEN THOUGH  
HEAVY RAINFALL DURING THIS PERIOD SHOULD NOT BE AS WIDESPREAD, THE  
EXTREMELY SATURATED SOILS WILL BE AN AGGRAVATING FACTOR IN TERMS OF  
THE FLOODING POTENTIAL.  
 
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN WARM ACROSS MUCH OF THE WESTERN  
U.S. AND INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. FOR THE UPCOMING WEEKEND, WITH  
HIGHS RUNNING UP TO 15-25 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE FOR PORTIONS OF THE  
DAKOTAS AND INTO EASTERN WYOMING. EXCESSIVE HEAT WILL ONCE AGAIN  
MAKE WEATHER HEADLINES FOR THE LOWER ELEVATIONS OF THE DESERT  
SOUTHWEST WITH HIGHS APPROACHING 110 DEGREES FOR THE NORMALLY  
HOTTER LOCATIONS OF SOUTHEAST CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHERN ARIZONA. MOST  
OF THE EASTERN U.S. SHOULD BE NEAR AVERAGE FOR HIGHS, AND ABOVE  
AVERAGE FOR OVERNIGHT LOWS OWING GREATER CLOUD COVER AND HUMIDITY  
THROUGH EARLY IN THE WEEK.  
 
HAMRICK/SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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