367  
FXUS02 KWBC 050640  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
240 AM EDT SAT OCT 5 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 08 2024 - 12Z SAT OCT 12 2024  
 
 
...HEAVY RAINFALL BECOMING MORE LIKELY ACROSS THE FLORIDA  
PENINSULA INTO NEXT WEEK...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
AN UPPER TROUGH (ANCHORED BY AN UPPER LOW THAT MAY TRACK OVER OR  
NEAR NEW ENGLAND) WILL SETTLE OVER THE EAST FOR A FEW DAYS NEXT  
WEEK AS AN UPPER RIDGE UPSTREAM TRACKS FROM THE WEST TO CENTRAL  
U.S. BRINGING A PERIOD OF CLIMATOLOGICALLY WARM WEATHER. BY LATER  
NEXT WEEK, THE LEADING EDGE OF A PACIFIC TROUGH WILL PRODUCE  
GRADUAL HEIGHT FALLS OVER THE NORTHWEST WITH SOME GENERALLY LIGHT  
PRECIPITATION TO ACCOMPANY. THE MAIN RAINFALL FOCUS OVER THE CONUS  
WILL BE OVER PARTS OF FLORIDA, DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF ABUNDANT  
TROPICAL MOISTURE IN ADDITION TO A GULF OF MEXICO DISTURBANCE AND A  
FRONT DRAPED ACROSS THE PENINSULA.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW SOME TYPICAL DIFFERENCES IN THE DETAILS  
FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THE UPPER TROUGH SETTLING OVER THE EAST AND  
THE ANCHORING LOW. THERE IS SOME QUESTION ON TIMING AND PLACEMENT  
OF THE UPPER LOW AND THE ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW MID- TO LATE WEEK,  
BUT A GENERAL MODEL COMPROMISE SEEMED TO PROVIDE A GOOD MIDDLE  
GROUND SOLUTION. TIMING OF THE NEXT TROUGH INTO THE WEST NEXT  
THURSDAY AND BEYOND BECOMES VERY UNCERTAIN WITH THE CMC MUCH  
QUICKER THAN THE BETTER CONSENSUS. THE GFS IS ALSO FASTER THAN THE  
ECMWF BUT STILL WITHIN THE OVERALL SPREAD. PREFER A BLEND OF THE  
ECMWF, GFS, AND ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR THIS FEATURE AS DETAILS BECOME  
VERY UNCLEAR LATE PERIOD.  
 
THE MAIN FEATURE OF INTEREST DURING THE PERIOD THOUGH IS STILL  
EVOLUTION OF A POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. LOWS  
MAY SPIN UP ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARIES IN THE EASTERN  
GULF/NORTHERN FLORIDA/WESTERN ATLANTIC WHILE ANOTHER FEATURE THAT  
IS MORE CONCERNING FOR FORMING A POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM (POSSIBLY  
PARTIALLY CONSISTING OF REMNANT ENERGY FROM WHAT WAS ELEVEN-E IN  
THE EAST PACIFIC) MAY EVOLVE OVER THE WESTERN GULF. GUIDANCE HAS  
GENERALLY COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME  
SORT OF TROPICAL OR SUB-TROPICAL SYSTEM TRACKING INTO FLORIDA BUT  
REMAIN VERY UNCERTAIN ON THE TIMING AND NORTH-SOUTH PLACEMENT OF  
THAT. THERE DOES SEEM TO BE AN UNCERTAIN SLIGHTLY FASTER AND MORE  
NORTHERLY TREND. THE CMC IS BY FAR THE SLOWEST PIECE OF GUIDANCE  
AND WAS NOT PREFERRED. WPC WORKED WITH A BLEND OF THE GFS AND ECMWF  
WHICH WERE SOLIDLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPREAD AND CONSISTENT WITH  
LATEST NHC THOUGHTS AS WELL. PLEASE CONSULT THE NHC OUTLOOKS FOR  
THE LATEST INFORMATION ON FEATURES OF INTEREST OVER THE GULF.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL POTENTIAL FOR NEXT WEEK WILL BE OVER THE  
FLORIDA PENINSULA, WITH LOW PRESSURE (THAT COULD BE TROPICAL OR  
SUBTROPICAL) OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO SHIFTING EASTWARD WITH TIME  
BUT WITH CONSIDERABLE MODEL VARIABILITY ON PLACEMENT AND TIMING.  
REGARDLESS OF TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT, ENHANCED/ABOVE AVERAGE TROPICAL  
MOISTURE WILL BE IN PLACE AND FUNNELED INTO A WAVY FRONT DRAPED  
OVER THE STATE. THIS SHOULD PRODUCE MULTIPLE DAYS OF MODERATE TO  
HEAVY RAINFALL, AND MARGINAL RISKS ARE IN PLACE IN THE EROS FOR  
MUCH OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA FOR DAYS 4-5/TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY. IF  
THE TRENDS CONTINUE, IT IS LIKELY AT LEAST A SLIGHT RISK WILL BE  
NEEDED, BUT CONFIDENCE IS STILL TOO LOW ON WHERE TO PLACE THAT AT  
THESE LEAD TIMES. HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL MAY CONTINUE BEYOND  
WEDNESDAY, DEPENDING ON TIMING OF ANY POTENTIAL TROPICAL SYSTEM.  
 
ELSEWHERE, THE UPPER LOW OVER/NEAR NEW ENGLAND SHOULD ALLOW FOR  
SOME LAKE- ENHANCED RAIN WITHIN IN WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE GREAT  
LAKES. A MEAN FRONTAL ZONE WITH ONE OR MORE EMBEDDED WAVES SHOULD  
REACH NEAR THE NORTHERN PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY EARLY-MID WEEK,  
PRODUCING SOME PERIODS OF LIGHT TO LOCALLY MODERATE RAIN AND NON-  
ZERO CHANCES OF SNOW IN THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS. WIDELY SCATTERED  
SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE AT TIMES ACROSS THE FOUR CORNERS STATES INTO  
PARTS OF THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S., BUT ANYTHING BEYOND LIGHT RAIN IS  
UNLIKELY.  
 
THE STRONG AND PERSISTENT WESTERN-CENTRAL U.S. UPPER RIDGE WILL  
PROMOTE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER  
THAT PART OF THE COUNTRY. GRADUAL EASTWARD DRIFT OF THE RIDGE AXIS  
WILL SHIFT THE HIGHEST ANOMALIES FROM THE WEST INTO THE PLAINS BY  
TUESDAY WITH SOME NORTHERN LOCATIONS COULD REACH 20-25F ABOVE  
NORMAL. HEIGHT FALLS SLOWLY PUSHING IN OVER THE WEST COAST WILL  
SUPPORT A TREND TOWARD NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES BY WEDNESDAY OR  
THURSDAY. TEMPERATURES OVER MOST OF THE EAST SHOULD COOL STARTING  
AS UPPER TROUGHING SETS UP NEAR THE EAST COAST. THIS MAY LEAD TO  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE UPPER GREAT LAKES  
REGION AND INTERIOR NORTHEAST, WITH THE TIMING AROUND THE MEDIAN TO  
A BIT LATE FOR THE FIRST FROST/FREEZE OF THE SEASON.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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