538  
FXUS02 KWBC 100640  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
240 AM EDT THU OCT 10 2024  
 
VALID 12Z SUN OCT 13 2024 - 12Z THU OCT 17 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW DEVELOPMENT OF AN AMPLIFIED RIDGE-  
TROUGH PATTERN OVER THE LOWER 48, DOWNSTREAM FROM A DEEP SYSTEM  
JUST SOUTH OF ALASKA. A SHORTWAVE DIVING THROUGH THE NORTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. THIS WEEKEND WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF AMPLIFYING EASTERN U.S.  
TROUGHING AND SUPPORT A NORTHEAST SURFACE SYSTEM, WITH MULTIPLE  
TRAILING IMPULSES HELPING TO REINFORCE THE TROUGH. MUCH BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND FROST/FREEZE MAY BE A CONCERN OVER SOME  
AREAS FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE EAST. THE FRONT LEADING THE  
COLDER TREND SHOULD SUPPRESS THIS WEEKEND'S CENTRAL-SOUTHERN U.S.  
HEAT THAT MAY CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE DAILY RECORDS AT SOME LOCATIONS  
EARLY IN THE PERIOD. THE UPPER RIDGE OVER THE ROCKIES WILL SUPPORT  
PERSISTENT WARMTH OVER THE INTERIOR WEST AND ROCKIES, FOCUSING  
MORE OVER THE NORTHERN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF  
NEXT WEEK. EXPECT THE LEADING EDGE OF A PACIFIC TROUGH TO PUSH A  
FRONT AND SOME ACCOMPANYING RAINFALL INTO THE NORTHWEST BY NEXT  
WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE AMPLIFIED  
TROUGH-RIDGE-TROUGH PATTERN DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD, BUT A  
LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE DETAILS ESPECIALLY LATE PERIOD. THE MAIN  
AREA OF SPREAD IS OVER THE EAST NEXT TUESDAY-THURSDAY WITH WHETHER  
OR NOT DEEPER ENERGY DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF THE ESTABLISHED TROUGH  
WITH CLOSE OFF AN UPPER LOW. THE CMC CONTINUES TO HOLD ON TO A  
CUTOFF UPPER LOW OVER THE EAST NEXT THURSDAY, AND WHILE IN THE  
MINORITY OF SOLUTIONS, NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITIES ON  
THIS EVOLUTION. AT THIS TIME, LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE  
AND AI/ML MODELS, THERE SEEMS TO BE BETTER SUPPORT FOR A MORE  
ELONGATED TROUGH BUT THE TIMING IS VERY UNCERTAIN. YESTERDAYS 12Z  
ECMWF DID SHOW A CMC- LIKE CUTOFF LOW OVER THE EAST, BUT THE 00Z  
RUN TONIGHT TRENDED FASTER WITH THE TROUGH, MORE LIKE THE GFS. RUN  
TO RUN VARIANCE IN THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE IS HUGE STILL, SO A  
BLEND TOWARDS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS SEEMS PRUDENT AT THIS TIME.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FOR TONIGHT USED A BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC  
GUIDANCE FOR DAYS 3-5, WHICH DESPITE SOME DISAGREEMENT BY DAY 5,  
STILL SERVED AS A GOOD STARTING POINT. GIVEN THE EVOLUTION  
UNCERTAINTY DAYS 6 AND 7 WITH THE EAST, TRENDED MORE HEAVILY  
TOWARDS THE ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
A LARGE PART OF THE LOWER 48 WILL SEE FAIRLY DRY WEATHER FOR A  
MAJORITY OF THE PERIOD. THE AMPLIFYING UPPER TROUGH AND  
ACCOMPANYING SURFACE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE EAST LATE THIS WEEKEND  
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK SHOULD PRODUCE SOME AREAS OF LOCALLY ENHANCED  
RAINFALL ACROSS PARTS OF THE GREAT LAKES/NORTHEAST, WITH SOME  
POSSIBILITY FOR SNOW DURING THE COLDER OVERNIGHT HOURS. LITTLE IF  
ANY INSTABILITY AND FAIRLY MODEST MOISTURE ANOMALIES SUGGEST THAT  
SHORT- TERM RAIN RATES WILL LIKELY NOT BE HIGH ENOUGH TO POSE A  
FLASH FLOOD THREAT. A FRONT LINGERING NEAR SOUTH FLORIDA MAY BRING  
SOME SHOWERS/INSTABILITY, AND IT'S POSSIBLE A LOCALIZED FLASH FLOOD  
THREAT COULD DEVELOP, BUT STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN RAIN  
AMOUNTS. THEREFORE THE NEW DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS  
CONTINUE TO SHOW NO RISK AREAS. THE NEXT TROUGH/FRONT INTO THE WEST  
SHOULD SPREAD MODEST RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATIONS SNOWS INTO THE  
NORTHWEST/ROCKIES BUT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE TOO IMPACTFUL.  
 
AN UPPER RIDGE ALIGNED OVER/NEAR THE ROCKIES FOR MOST OF THE  
PERIOD WILL MAINTAIN WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST/INTERIOR WEST INTO ROCKIES, AND EXTENDING INTO THE  
NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS TOWARD MIDWEEK AS THE RIDGE SHIFTS EASTWARD A  
LITTLE. THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS SHOULD REMAIN WARM INTO SUNDAY  
BEFORE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGHING AND A COLD FRONT SUPPRESS ABOVE  
NORMAL READINGS TO THE SOUTH/SOUTHEAST. GREATEST ANOMALIES OF PLUS  
10-20F SHOULD BE OVER THE NORTHERN ROCKIES MULTIPLE DAYS AND  
EVENTUALLY THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS, AS WELL AS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS  
DURING THE WEEKEND. DAILY RECORDS WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM THE  
SOUTHWEST THROUGH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS WEEKEND. MEANWHILE, THE  
EAST SHOULD TREND COLDER WITH TIME TOWARD HIGHS 5-15F BELOW NORMAL  
NEXT MONDAY- WEDNESDAY UNDERNEATH AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGHING.  
MORNING LOWS NEXT WEEK MAY BE A TAD LESS ANOMALOUS BUT STILL COLD  
ENOUGH TO RAISE SOME FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. THROUGH THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST/APPALACHIANS.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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