098  
FXUS02 KWBC 120656  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
256 AM EDT SAT OCT 12 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 15 2024 - 12Z SAT OCT 19 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY, UPPER TROUGHING WILL  
SETTLE IN ACROSS THE EASTERN HALF OF THE U.S., LEADING TO BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALONG WITH FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FOR THE NORTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. TO NORTHEAST, ALONG WITH LAKE-ENHANCED PRECIPITATION.  
MEANWHILE UPPER RIDGING (ASIDE FROM EMBEDDED ENERGY) WILL SET UP  
ATOP THE INTERIOR WEST, AND THIS RIDGE IS FORECAST TO SHIFT  
EASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL U.S. THROUGH THE WEEK WITH WARMER THAN  
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES UNDERNEATH IT. THE PATTERN IN THE WEST IS  
FORECAST TO FLIP TO TROUGHING BY MIDWEEK TO LATE WEEK WITH A COUPLE  
ROUNDS OF REINFORCING ENERGY. THIS WILL COOL TEMPERATURES THERE  
AND LEAD TO INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES, INCLUDING HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE STARTS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD IN RELATIVELY GOOD  
AGREEMENT, WITH A BROAD TROUGH ACROSS THE MIDWEST TO EAST WHILE  
GENERAL RIDGING IN THE WEST IS BROKEN UP A BIT BY AN EMBEDDED  
SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW ATOP THE CENTRAL GREAT BASIN TUESDAY. THE  
TROUGH IN THE EAST SHOULD GRADUALLY SWEEP EASTWARD WEDNESDAY-  
FRIDAY, WITH SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TIMING. RECENT MODELS HAVE NOT  
INDICATED ENERGY BREAKING OFF IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE TROUGH  
TO FORM A CLOSED LOW LIKE SOME RUNS FROM A DAY OR TWO AGO, SO AT  
LEAST THAT ASPECT IS IN BETTER AGREEMENT NOW. THEN UPSTREAM,  
RIDGING IN THE WEST-CENTRAL TO CENTRAL U.S. AND TROUGHING COMING  
INTO THE WEST BEHIND IT START TO SHOW SPREAD IN TIMING AS SOON AS  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. GENERALLY THE 12Z EC SUITE, INCLUDING THE  
DETERMINISTIC RUN AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND MEAN, IS MORE  
CONSOLIDATED WITH THE WEST TROUGH AND PRODUCES A DEEPER EASTERN  
PACIFIC SURFACE LOW (ALL THIS CREATING A STRONGER ATMOSPHERIC  
RIVER), AND THUS IS SLOWER/FARTHER WEST WITH THE TROUGH AXIS AND  
THE RIDGE AXIS TO THE EAST. GFS RUNS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW A  
WESTERN TROUGH WITH SHORTWAVES COMING THROUGH AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO  
MAKE IT BROADER, AND THE RIDGE SHIFTS EAST MORE QUICKLY. OFTEN A  
MIDDLE GROUND SOLUTION IN BETWEEN THE SLOW EC AND FAST GFS IS  
PREFERRED, AND THE BULK OF THE 12Z AI/ML MODELS ARE GENERALLY IN  
BETWEEN WITH THE TROUGH AND RIDGE POSITIONS, INCREASING CONFIDENCE  
IN AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION. THE 12Z CMC WAS IN BETWEEN AND THUS  
COULD BE UTILIZED SOME. THE NEWER 00Z GFS AND EC HAVE SIMILAR  
POSITIONS AS THEIR OLDER RUNS. THEN BY LATE WEEK, SOME MODELS SHOW  
AN UPPER LOW CLOSING OFF IN THE SOUTHWEST, SPECIFICALLY GFS AND CMC  
RUNS. THE ECMWF DOES NOT SHOW THIS AND NEITHER DO THE EC-BASED  
AI/ML MODELS. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS UNCERTAIN POTENTIAL.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND FAVORING THE 12Z ECMWF/18Z  
GFS/12Z CMC EARLY, GRADUALLY REDUCING THE PROPORTION OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC RUNS (ESPECIALLY THE EC AND GFS) AS THE PERIOD  
PROGRESSED IN FAVOR OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS, REACHING OVER HALF MEANS  
BY DAY 6 AND WELL OVER HALF BY DAY 7 AS SPREAD INCREASED.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
BEHIND A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM PULLING NORTH OF NEW ENGLAND  
BY TUESDAY AND UNDERNEATH THE UPPER TROUGH CAUSING COOL WESTERLY  
FLOW, LAKE-ENHANCED AND TERRAIN-ENHANCED PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY  
FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION INTO THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST AND INTO  
THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS. COLDER TEMPERATURES SHOULD ALLOW FOR SNOW  
ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER  
OFF WEDNESDAY, AND THE EAST IS LIKELY TO BE DRY FOR LATER WEEK AS A  
COOL SURFACE HIGH SETS UP BEHIND A SECONDARY COLD FRONT. THE  
EXCEPTION COULD BE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA, WHICH IS FORECAST TO SEE  
RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE BY LATE WEEK FOR INCREASING RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORM CHANCES.  
 
THE DEVELOPING AND RELOADING UPPER TROUGH AND MULTIPLE SURFACE  
FRONTS MOVING INTO THE WEST WILL GRADUALLY PUSH PRECIPITATION INTO  
THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL WEST COAST BY TUESDAY AND THROUGH THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES INTO WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. WHILE THERE IS GOOD CONFIDENCE IN  
THE OVERALL EVENT, UNRESOLVED SPECIFICS OF THE UPPER TROUGH LEAD  
TO GREATER UNCERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUTHWARD/EASTWARD  
EXTENT OF PRECIPITATION AS WELL AS MAGNITUDE. EXPECT RELATIVELY  
HIGHER TOTALS OVER FAVORED COASTAL AREAS AND THE CASCADES. HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW IS LIKELY BY MIDWEEK, WHICH MAY BE THE FIRST SNOW OF  
THE SEASON IN SOME LOCATIONS GIVEN THE WARM FALL IN THE WEST THUS  
FAR. WHILE DETAILS VARY, MODEL GUIDANCE GENERALLY SHOWS  
PRECIPITATION SPREADING EAST THROUGH THE INTERIOR WEST/ROCKIES INTO  
THURSDAY, AND BY FRIDAY GULF MOISTURE MAY STREAM IN JUST AHEAD OF  
THE UPPER TROUGH FOR SOME INCREASING RAIN CHANCES IN THE PLAINS TO  
UPPER MIDWEST.  
 
AN UPPER RIDGE ALIGNED OVER THE ROCKIES INTO TUESDAY AND THEN  
SHIFTING EASTWARD BY MID AND LATER WEEK WILL PROMOTE WELL ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN ITS VICINITY. THE BIGGEST ANOMALIES ARE  
FORECAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND HIGH PLAINS TUESDAY-  
WEDNESDAY, WHERE HIGHS INTO THE 70S AND 80S ARE 15-25 DEGREES ABOVE  
AVERAGE FOR MID-OCTOBER. THESE WARM TEMPERATURES WILL SHIFT INTO  
MUCH OF THE PLAINS AND MIDWEST BY THURSDAY-FRIDAY. FOR MUCH OF THE  
EASTERN U.S., TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO BE BELOW AVERAGE BY  
10-15 DEGREES TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY UNDERNEATH COOL HIGH PRESSURE.  
MORNING LOWS MAY CAUSE FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. THROUGH THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST/APPALACHIANS.  
EXPECT SOME MODERATION THERE BY THURSDAY- SATURDAY. MEANWHILE, THE  
UPPER TROUGH AND FRONTAL SURGES COMING INTO THE WEST WILL LEAD TO  
BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES SPREADING GRADUALLY INLAND FOR THE LATTER  
HALF OF THE WEEK. THESE COLDER TEMPERATURES MAY ALSO LEAD TO  
ADDITIONAL FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FOR STILL SUSCEPTIBLE GROWING  
AREAS.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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