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FXUS02 KWBC 130657  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EDT SUN OCT 13 2024  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 16 2024 - 12Z SUN OCT 20 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A PATTERN CHANGE IS FORECAST BY MIDWEEK IN THE WEST, AS UPPER  
TROUGHING AND THEN REINFORCING ENERGY COME IN FROM THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC, LEADING TO MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES AND INCREASING  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES, INCLUDING HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW. UPPER  
RIDGING AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH WILL PROMOTE WARMER THAN AVERAGE  
TEMPERATURES IN THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS TO MIDWEST AS IT  
GRADUALLY MOVES EAST, EVENTUALLY DISPLACING THE CHILLY UPPER TROUGH  
AND SURFACE HIGH IN THE EAST BY LATE WEEK INTO NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
RECENT MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS RATHER AGREEABLE IN THE AMPLIFIED  
AND SOMEWHAT PROGRESSIVE PATTERN FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THIS WEEK.  
MODELS ARE MORE AGREEABLE THAN A DAY AGO REGARDING THE TIMING OF  
THE WESTERN U.S. TROUGH, CENTRAL U.S. RIDGE, AND EASTERN U.S.  
TROUGH MOVING GRADUALLY EASTWARD WITH TIME. ADDITIONALLY, LATEST  
MODELS ARE NOT AS DEEP WITH A EASTERN PACIFIC SURFACE LOW AND AS  
STRONG WITH THE ATMOSPHERIC RIVER COMING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
COMPARED TO SOME OLDER MODELS (E.G. 12Z EC FROM THE 11TH AND 00Z  
EC FROM THE 12TH). WITH THOSE ASPECTS OF THE FORECAST SHOWING  
BETTER CONSENSUS, THE MAIN FORECAST ISSUE ON THE LARGER SCALE IS  
WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THE WESTERN TROUGH LATE WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND. GFS AND CMC RUNS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT NOW OVER SEVERAL  
RUNS IN SHOWING AN UPPER LOW CUTTING OFF ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF  
THE TROUGH, WITH DIFFERENCES IN POSITION FOR THE CUTOFF LOW BUT  
SOMEWHERE IN THE SOUTHWESTERN TO SOUTH-CENTRAL CONUS. THE 12Z ECMWF  
SPLIT SOME ENERGY INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION BUT DID NOT CLOSE  
OFF A LOW, AND NOW THE NEWER 00Z EC JUST KEEPS A PHASED TROUGH.  
HOWEVER, MOST AI/ML GUIDANCE THAT IS EC-BASED DOES INDICATE A  
CLOSED LOW FORMING. THE WPC FORECAST DOES NOT EXPLICITLY DEPICT A  
CLOSED LOW AT THIS POINT BUT DOES SHOW SOME SOUTHERN STREAM  
TROUGHING SEPARATING FROM THE NORTHERN STREAM. WHETHER OR NOT A LOW  
CLOSES OFF IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM WILL IMPACT TIMING OF TROUGHING  
PROGRESSING EASTWARD (AS THE CUTOFF LOW WOULD TEND TO STALL BUT THE  
NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH CAN MOVE MORE QUICKLY EAST IF THE FLOW  
SPLITS).  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND  
FAVORING THE 12Z ECMWF AND 18Z GFS EARLY IN THE PERIOD, BUT AS  
SPREAD INCREASED QUICKLY IN THE WESTERN/CENTRAL U.S. INTO THE LATER  
PERIOD, USED THE GEFS AND EC ENSEMBLE MEANS AS HALF THE BLEND BY  
DAY 6 AND OVER HALF BY DAY 7.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
THE DEVELOPING AND RELOADING UPPER TROUGH AND MULTIPLE SURFACE  
FRONTS MOVING INTO THE WEST WILL PUSH PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST WEDNESDAY, WITH ENHANCED PRECIPITATION TOTALS IN TERRAIN  
LIKE THE COASTAL RANGES AND CASCADES INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES.  
HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW IS LIKELY, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST SNOW OF  
THE SEASON IN SOME LOCATIONS GIVEN THE WARM FALL IN THE WEST THUS  
FAR. PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST TO SPREAD ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN  
WEST AND ROCKIES THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. BY FRIDAY AND INTO THE  
WEEKEND, GULF MOISTURE COULD STREAM IN JUST AHEAD OF THE UPPER  
TROUGH FOR INCREASING RAIN CHANCES IN THE PLAINS TO UPPER MIDWEST.  
THE FORECAST DETAILS VARY, BUT MODELS GENERALLY SHOW SOME MODERATE  
TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN TOTALS IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS.  
 
IN THE NORTHEASTERN U.S., COOL WESTERLY FLOW UNDERNEATH THE UPPER  
TROUGH TO START THE PERIOD WEDNESDAY WILL LEAD TO SOME CONTINUED  
LAKE-ENHANCED AND TERRAIN-ENHANCED PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL/NORTHERN APPALACHIANS AND THE GREAT LAKES REGION INTO THE  
INTERIOR NORTHEAST. COLDER TEMPERATURES SHOULD ALLOW FOR SNOW  
ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER OFF  
BY THURSDAY, AND THE EAST IS LIKELY TO BE DRY FOR LATER WEEK AS A  
COOL SURFACE HIGH SETS UP BEHIND A SECONDARY COLD FRONT. THE  
EXCEPTION COULD BE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA, WHICH IS FORECAST TO SEE  
RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE BY LATE WEEK FOR INCREASING RAIN AND  
THUNDERSTORM CHANCES.  
 
AN UPPER RIDGE ALIGNED OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. MIDWEEK AND SHIFTING  
EASTWARD LATER WEEK WILL PROMOTE WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN  
ITS VICINITY. THE BIGGEST ANOMALIES ARE FORECAST ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES AND HIGH PLAINS ON WEDNESDAY, WHERE HIGHS INTO THE  
70S AND 80S ARE 15-25 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE FOR MID-OCTOBER. THESE  
WARM TEMPERATURES WILL SHIFT INTO THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN PLAINS AND  
MIDWEST BY THURSDAY-FRIDAY. MEANWHILE, TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO  
BE BELOW AVERAGE BY 10-20 DEGREES ON WEDNESDAY IN MUCH OF THE  
EASTERN U.S. UNDER COOL HIGH PRESSURE. MORNING LOWS MAY CAUSE  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. THROUGH THE  
MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST/APPALACHIANS. SOME GRADUAL  
MODERATION/WARMING IS LIKELY THERE THURSDAY-FRIDAY AND EVEN MORE SO  
INTO THE WEEKEND WHEN UPPER RIDGING COMES OVERHEAD, FOR  
TEMPERATURES AROUND 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL IN THE NORTHEASTERN  
TIER. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE UPPER TROUGH AND FRONTAL SURGES COMING  
INTO THE WEST WILL LEAD TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES SPREADING  
GRADUALLY INLAND FOR THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. THESE COLDER  
TEMPERATURES MAY ALSO LEAD TO ADDITIONAL FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FOR  
STILL SUSCEPTIBLE GROWING AREAS.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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