433  
FXUS02 KWBC 141902  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
302 PM EDT MON OCT 14 2024  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 17 2024 - 12Z MON OCT 21 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
DEEP UPPER TROUGHING WITH A LIKELY CLOSED LOW IN THE WEST WILL  
LEAD TO A COOL AND WET PATTERN THERE, INCLUDING HIGHER ELEVATION  
SNOW AND FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS IN SOME OF THE VALLEYS. HEAVY RAIN  
CHANCES COULD INCREASE IN THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS BY THE  
WEEKEND. UPPER RIDGING AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH WILL PROMOTE WARMER  
THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES IN THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS TO MIDWEST  
AS IT GRADUALLY MOVES EAST, EVENTUALLY DISPLACING THE CHILLY UPPER  
TROUGH AND SURFACE HIGH IN THE EAST BY THE WEEKEND.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE AGREEABLE ON THE LARGE SCALE  
PATTERN EVOLUTION THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD, BUT SOME  
UNCERTAINTIES STILL IN THE TIMING AND DETAILS OF INDIVIDUAL  
SYSTEMS. MOST NOTABLE SYSTEM DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE WILL BE A  
SHORTWAVE DIVING INTO THE WEST EARLY PERIOD, WITH MODELS NOW  
SHOWING AGREEMENT ON A DEEP CLOSED LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST BY THIS WEEKEND AND EVENTUALLY LIFTING NORTH AND EAST  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. THROUGH THE 00Z RUN, THE CMC WAS MORE PROGRESSIVE  
AND DISPLACED EAST OF THE GFS, ECMWF, AND UKMET, BUT THE NEW 12Z  
RUN TODAY DID JUMP WEST. 00Z GFS WAS QUICKEST TO LIFT THE SYSTEM  
NORTHWARD SUNDAY-MONDAY BUT THE NEW 12Z RUN DID SLOW DOWN. GOOD  
AGREEMENT ON AN UPPER RIDGE BUILDING BACK IN ACROSS THE EAST AGAIN  
BEHIND A DEPARTING UPPER TROUGH/LOW, BUT HOW FAR WESTWARD THIS  
RIDGE RETROGRADES EARLY NEXT WEEK IS DEPENDENT ON THE EVOLUTION OF  
THE WESTERN/CENTRAL UPPER LOW.  
 
WPC FORECAST FOR TODAY PREFERRED A NON-CMC BLEND EARLY IN THE  
PERIOD, WHICH WAS MORE WEST WITH THE LOW AND MOST CONSISTENT WITH  
THE PREVIOUS WPC FORECAST. LEANED MORE HEAVILY ON THE ENSEMBLE  
MEANS LATE PERIOD WITH LINGERING AND INCREASING UNCERTAINTIES.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
THE UPPER TROUGH/LOW PUSHING ACROSS THE WEST LATER WEEK WILL PUSH  
PRECIPITATION FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN  
WEST/ROCKIES LATER WEEK, WITH ENHANCED PRECIPITATION TOTALS IN  
TERRAIN. HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW IS LIKELY, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST  
SNOW OF THE SEASON IN SOME LOCATIONS GIVEN THE WARM FALL IN THE  
WEST THUS FAR. SOME RAIN AND SNOW COULD CONTINUE ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL/SOUTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE WEEKEND. MEANWHILE, GULF MOISTURE  
MAY STREAM IN JUST AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW FOR INCREASING RAIN  
CHANCES IN THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS LATE WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND. WHILE FORECAST DETAILS VARY, RECENT MODELS SHOW SOME  
MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL, PARTICULARLY FOR  
SENSITIVE BURN SCAR LOCATIONS. LIGHTER RAIN MAY SPREAD INTO THE  
NORTH- CENTRAL U.S. LATE WEEK TOO ALONG THE FRONT. MORE ROUNDS OF  
PRECIPITATION ARE LIKELY FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE WEEKEND  
WITH ADDITIONAL IMPULSES COMING THROUGH.  
 
MEANWHILE, THE EASTERN U.S. IS FORECAST TO BE GENERALLY DRY LATE  
WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARTS OF THE  
FLORIDA PENINSULA. THERE, RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE NORTH OF A  
STATIONARY FRONT COULD INCREASE RAIN AND THUNDERSTORM CHANCES  
ESPECIALLY FOR SOUTH FLORIDA BY FRIDAY AND PERHAPS SPREADING  
NORTHWARD INTO THE WEEKEND. MODELS CONTINUE TO VARY ON HOW MUCH  
RAIN MAY FALL ONSHORE VERSUS OFFSHORE, SO NO AREA IS CURRENTLY  
DELINEATED IN THE DAY 5/FRIDAY ERO, BUT THERE MAY BE A NONZERO  
CHANCE FOR FLASH FLOODING ESPECIALLY IF HEAVY RAIN RATES OCCUR IN  
THE SENSITIVE URBAN AREAS.  
 
AN UPPER RIDGE ALIGNED OVER THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THURSDAY AND  
SHIFTING INTO THE EAST FRIDAY WILL PROMOTE WELL ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES IN ITS VICINITY. THE BIGGEST ANOMALIES ARE FORECAST  
ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURSDAY, WHERE HIGHS INTO THE  
70S AND 80S ARE 15-25 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE FOR MID-OCTOBER. COOLER  
THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES BY 10-15 DEGREES ARE EXPECTED TO  
CONTINUE ACROSS THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE U.S. INTO THURSDAY UNDER  
COOL HIGH PRESSURE. ANOTHER ROUND OF CHILLY MORNING LOWS MAY CAUSE  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FROM THE GREAT LAKES REGION INTO THE  
NORTHEAST/APPALACHIANS. GRADUAL MODERATION/WARMING IS LIKELY THERE  
FRIDAY AND EVEN MORE SO INTO THE WEEKEND WHEN UPPER RIDGING COMES  
OVERHEAD, FOR TEMPERATURES AROUND 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL IN THE  
NORTHEASTERN TIER. THEN THE RIDGE REBUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL U.S.  
EARLY NEXT WEEK WILL LEAD TO WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES IN  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO UPPER MIDWEST ONCE AGAIN. ON THE OTHER HAND,  
THE UPPER TROUGH AND FRONTAL SURGES IN THE WEST WILL CAUSE BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES SPREADING ACROSS THE WEST COAST TO GREAT  
BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND SOUTHWEST PARTICULARLY THROUGH LATE  
WEEK. THESE COLDER TEMPERATURES MAY ALSO LEAD TO ADDITIONAL  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FOR ANY STILL SUSCEPTIBLE GROWING  
AREAS/VALLEY LOCATIONS.  
 
SANTORELLI/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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