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FXUS02 KWBC 150709  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
309 AM EDT TUE OCT 15 2024  
 
VALID 12Z FRI OCT 18 2024 - 12Z TUE OCT 22 2024  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
DEEP UPPER TROUGHING WITH A DEVELOPING CLOSED LOW IN THE INTERIOR  
WEST WILL LEAD TO A COOL AND WET PATTERN THERE, INCLUDING HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW AND FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS IN SOME OF THE VALLEYS.  
HEAVY RAIN CHANCES COULD INCREASE IN THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS BY  
THE WEEKEND. UPPER RIDGING AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH/LOW WILL PROMOTE  
WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES IN THE NORTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS TO  
MIDWEST AS IT MEANDERS. THE RIDGE SHOULD GRADUALLY WARM THE EAST AS  
WELL AND PROMOTE DRY CONDITIONS FOR THE MOST PART, EXCEPT FOR  
SOUTH FLORIDA. ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION MAY COME INTO THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST LATE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE IS REASONABLY AGREEABLE REGARDING THE LARGE SCALE  
PATTERN DURING MUCH OF THE PERIOD. MODELS AGREE AN UPPER TROUGH  
DIGGING INTO THE GREAT BASIN FRIDAY WILL SPLIT OFF A CLOSED UPPER  
LOW INTO THE SOUTHERN STREAM ATOP THE SOUTHWEST BY THE WEEKEND.  
THERE IS MODEST SPREAD AMONG DETERMINISTIC MODELS/ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS/AI MODELS WITH THE TIMING AND PLACEMENT OF THIS UPPER LOW,  
WITH SPREAD INCREASING BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS IT EJECTS NORTHEAST  
AND MAY JOIN BACK UP WITH THE MEAN FLOW BY TUESDAY. CMC RUNS HAVE  
BEEN ON THE SLOWER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE THOUGH  
INTERESTINGLY THE 12Z CMC ENSEMBLE MEAN WAS FASTER THAN OTHER  
MEANS. PREFERRED THE 12Z GEFS MEAN OVER THE 18Z GEFS MEAN AS IT  
MATCHED BETTER WITH THE 12Z EC MEAN (12Z MEANS BOTH SLOWER). BUT  
OVERALL THE MODEL SPREAD FOR THIS FEATURE IS WELL WITHIN TYPICAL  
RANGES FOR A CLOSED UPPER LOW LIKE THIS IN THE MIDDLE TO LATE  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
 
UPPER RIDGING IS AGREEABLE AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH/LOW BUILDING FROM  
THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY TOWARD THE EASTERN SEABOARD SATURDAY  
DISPLACING INITIAL TROUGHING, BUT MORE UNCERTAIN SHORTWAVES COULD  
DISRUPT THIS RIDGING IN THE EAST BY SUNDAY. A RIDGE IS FORECAST TO  
REBUILD ATOP THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND VICINITY INSTEAD BY SUNDAY,  
DOWNSTREAM OF THE SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW, PUSHING EAST INTO THE  
WORKWEEK AS THE UPPER LOW DOES TOO.  
 
ENERGY IS LIKELY TO DIVE SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE EASTERN PACIFIC  
EARLY NEXT WEEK AND PERHAPS FORM A CLOSED LOW OFFSHORE. THIS LEADS  
TO SOME NOTABLE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE FLOW PATTERN REACHING THE WEST  
WITHOUT MUCH AGREEMENT IN THE DETAILS YET.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS  
EARLY IN THE PERIOD, WITH SOME ENSEMBLE MEANS INTRODUCED BY DAY 5  
AND INCREASING TO ABOUT HALF BY DAY 7 FOR THE MASS FIELDS GIVEN THE  
INCREASING SPREAD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
THE UPPER LOW CLOSING OFF ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST LATE WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND WILL PUSH PRECIPITATION INTO THE FOUR CORNERS STATES,  
ROCKIES, AND HIGH PLAINS. EXPECT ENHANCED PRECIPITATION TOTALS IN  
TERRAIN WITH HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST SNOW OF  
THE SEASON IN SOME LOCATIONS GIVEN THE WARM FALL IN THE WEST THUS  
FAR. SOME PRECIPITATION COULD CONTINUE ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES INTO THE WEEKEND. BY LATER FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND, GULF  
MOISTURE MAY STREAM IN JUST AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW FOR INCREASING  
RAIN CHANCES IN THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS. WHILE FORECAST  
DETAILS VARY, MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY PERSISTENT IN SHOWING SOME  
MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL FOCUSED IN NORTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO  
AND NEARBY, WITH SOME MODEST INSTABILITY. THE DAY 5/SATURDAY ERO  
PROPOSES A MARGINAL RISK THERE AND HEAVY RAIN WOULD BE MOST  
CONCERNING ATOP SENSITIVE BURN SCAR AREAS. THE CURRENT FORECAST  
INDICATES THAT THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE A  
FOCUS FOR ENHANCED PRECIPITATION ON SUNDAY BEFORE FINALLY MOVING  
EASTWARD MONDAY. ADDITIONALLY, MORE ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION ARE  
LIKELY FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE WEEKEND WITH ADDITIONAL  
IMPULSES COMING THROUGH.  
 
MEANWHILE, THE EASTERN U.S. IS FORECAST TO BE GENERALLY DRY LATE  
WEEK INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARTS OF THE  
FLORIDA PENINSULA. THERE, RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE NEAR A MEANDERING  
FRONT COULD INCREASE RAIN AND THUNDERSTORM CHANCES ESPECIALLY FOR  
SOUTH FLORIDA BY FRIDAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND. THERE COULD BE A  
NONZERO CHANCE FOR FLASH FLOODING WITH THIS ACTIVITY ESPECIALLY IF  
HEAVY RAIN RATES OCCUR IN THE SENSITIVE URBAN AREAS. HOWEVER, AS  
MODELS CONTINUE TO VARY WITH HOW MUCH RAIN MAY FALL ONSHORE VERSUS  
OFFSHORE, NO AREAS ARE CURRENTLY DELINEATED IN THE DAYS 4-5/FRIDAY-  
SATURDAY EROS AWAITING HOPEFULLY BETTER MODEL AGREEMENT.  
 
AN UPPER RIDGE ALIGNED OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. FRIDAY WILL  
PROMOTE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES IN ITS VICINITY. THE BIGGEST  
ANOMALIES OF PLUS 10-20 DEGREES ARE FORECAST ACROSS THE MIDWEST.  
MEANWHILE ANOTHER ROUND OF CHILLY MORNING LOWS MAY CAUSE  
FROST/FREEZE CONCERNS FOR THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST AND APPALACHIANS.  
GRADUAL MODERATION/WARMING IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE THERE INTO THE  
WEEKEND WHEN UPPER RIDGING COMES OVERHEAD, ALLOWING FOR  
TEMPERATURES AROUND 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL IN THE NORTHEASTERN  
TIER. THEN THE RIDGE REBUILDING OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. EARLY NEXT  
WEEK WILL LEAD TO WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES IN THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS TO UPPER MIDWEST ONCE AGAIN. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE UPPER  
TROUGH AND FRONTAL SURGES IN THE WEST WILL CAUSE BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES TO SPREAD ACROSS THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST  
AND SOUTHWEST ON FRIDAY WITH SLOW MODERATION INTO THE WEEKEND.  
THESE COLDER TEMPERATURES MAY ALSO LEAD TO ADDITIONAL FROST/FREEZE  
CONCERNS FOR ANY STILL SUSCEPTIBLE GROWING AREAS/VALLEY LOCATIONS.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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