148  
FXUS02 KWBC 271857  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 PM EDT SUN OCT 27 2024  
 
VALID 12Z WED OCT 30 2024 - 12Z SUN NOV 03 2024  
 
...SEVERE WEATHER POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY WITH AN ISOLATED HEAVY RAIN  
THREAT OVER PARTS OF THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MID-  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...  
 
   
..GENERAL OVERVIEW
 
 
AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH WILL EJECT OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. MIDWEEK  
BEFORE LIFTING INTO/OVERTOP A WARM AMBIENT UPPER RIDGE OVER THE  
EASTERN-SOUTHEASTERN U.S.. THIS WILL RESULT IN A WAVY AND SHARP  
FRONT THROUGH THE MID-SECTION OF THE COUNTRY WHERE A COUPLE ROUNDS  
OF MODERATELY HEAVY RAIN ARE FORECAST FROM THE EASTERN PLAINS  
THROUGH THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND MIDWEST MID-LATER THIS WEEK AND  
INTO NEXT WEEKEND. THE TRAILING PORTION OF THE FRONT IS FORECAST TO  
SLOW/DISSIPATE IN RESPONSE TO ROBUST RENEWED TROUGH ENERGY DIGGING  
OUT OF THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC AND INTO THE WEST/SOUTHWEST.  
SUBTROPICAL RIDGING OVER THE SOUTHEAST WILL MAINTAIN MILD/WARM  
TEMPERATURES FOR MUCH OF THE LOWER 48 EAST OF THE ROCKIES.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
LATEST MODELS/ENSEMBLES SHOWED GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH MOST OF THE  
FORECAST PERIOD THOUGH THE 00Z CANADIAN/UKMET WERE DISPLACED FROM  
THE BETTER CLUSTERING OF THE 06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF WITH THEIR ENSEMBLE  
MEANS (AND 00Z NAEFS MEAN). USED A BLEND OF THE GFS/ECMWF FOR MUCH  
OF THE FORECAST PERIOD WHICH MAINTAINED GOOD CONTINUITY. BY NEXT  
WEEKEND, THE FLOW OVER THE PACIFIC AND INTO THE WEST REMAINS QUITE  
UNCERTAIN DUE TO SOME VIGOROUS FEATURES IN THE MID-LATITUDES AS  
WELL AS THE LIKELY FUTURE EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION OF WHAT IS  
CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM 23W (KONG-REY). THOUGH NOT EVERY RECURVING  
W PAC TROPICAL SYSTEM AMPLIFIES THE DOWNSTREAM FLOW INTO NOAM, THE  
OVERALL PATTERN SEEMS QUITE ACTIVE AND THE MACHINE LEARNING MODELS  
HAVE GENERALLY FAVORED A MORE AMPLIFIED AND SLOWER PATTERN BY NEXT  
WEEKEND INTO THE SOUTHWEST. THOUGH CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, STUCK WITH  
A FULLY ENSEMBLE MEAN-DRIVEN SOLUTION FOR NEXT SUNDAY THAT WAS JUST  
A BIT QUICKER THAN THE ENSEMBLE MEANS BUT CURIOUSLY SLOWER THAN  
THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS (WHICH ARE NOT TYPICALLY FASTER THAN THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS IN THESE CASES).  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
AHEAD OF A SHARPENING FRONT, A LONG FETCH OF RETURN FLOW FROM THE  
GULF OF MEXICO APPEARS TO INITIATE AND SUPPORT AN ISOLATED AND LOW-  
END THREAT OF MODERATE TO PERHAPS HEAVY RAIN FROM THE  
CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AMID A  
SEVERE WEATHER THREAT WEDNESDAY AND PERHAPS INTO THURSDAY.  
MAINTAINED THE MARGINAL RISK IN THE ERO FOR THESE AREAS THOUGH THE  
ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS ARE QUITE DRY AND MOST OF THE RAIN WILL BE  
BENEFICIAL.  
 
COOLING TEMPS MAY LEAD TO NEW AREAS OF FROST/FREEZE POTENTIAL BACK  
IN THE POST-FRONTAL AIRMASS INTO MIDWEEK. THE TRAILING PORTION OF  
THE FRONT IS THEN FORECAST TO STALL OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS WHERE  
MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL COULD LINGER AND THEN EXPAND  
NORTHEASTWARD BY NEXT WEEKEND AS ROBUST UPPER TROUGH/CLOSED LOW  
ENERGY DIGS UPSTREAM INTO THE WEST COAST TO RE-AMPLIFY THE FLOW  
OVER THE LOWER 48 AND VICINITY. PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE  
NEXT PACIFIC SYSTEM AND LONG-FETCH MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO RE-  
FOCUS INTO THE WEST COAST LATER IN THE WEEK AND INTO NEXT WEEKEND,  
WITH HIGH-ELEVATION SNOW REACHING INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND  
MODEST RAINS REACHING DOWN THROUGH CALIFORNIA. HERE, RAINFALL COULD  
BE HEAVIER (PER THE ECMWF AIFS) SHOULD A SLOWER/STRONGER SOLUTION  
VERIFY. REGARDLESS, THE COLD FRONTAL SURGE AND POSSIBLE CLOSED LOW  
DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHERN BASE OF THE MAIN UPPER TROUGH WILL  
BRING IN COOLER TEMPERATURES TO MUCH OF THE WEST.  
 
UPPER RIDGING TOGETHER WITH A PRE-FRONTAL LONG FETCH OF STRONG AND  
GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL TRANSPORT WARMTH FROM THE SOUTH THROUGH  
THE NORTHEAST THIS PERIOD. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL THREATEN NEW  
DAILY RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES WED/THU FROM TX NORTHEASTWARD BEFORE  
MODERATING.  
 
FRACASSO/SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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